CoVid-19 Part VII - 169 cases ROI (2 deaths) 45 in NI (as of 15 March) *Read OP*

Beasty

90 cases already in the Republic, 29 in the North (up to 13 March). I fully expect temperatures to rise further (and if they do, call a doctor!) but would request everyone pays attention to the mod warnings carried over from earlier threads and set out below. In particular please remain civil to each other

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Thread VI

Mod warnings:

Beasty wrote: »

OK, time to step in with some mod instructions:

1. Please interact in a civil manner
2. Do not tell others what to do, or what to post
3. If you have a problem with a post report it and leave the modding to the mods

In terms of thread content:

4. Treat everything you read here with caution. Anything posted is from an anonymous internet poster. You cannot assume anyone has any "specialist" knowledge whatever they claim
5. Statistics are important to some (and I personally pay a lot of attention to them), but they are of very little use to anyone who is already caught up in this, or indeed knows of people who are caught up
6. Terms such as "sinus", "airborne", "aerosol" have little relevance at this time in this jurisdiction. Ultimately though if cases are discovered in Ireland please pay attention to the relevant authorities and what they advise/recommend, and not some randomer(s) on the internet

All the above is me talking as a complete layman on the subject. Like everything in this thread do not treat it as chapter and verse, beyond paying attention to items 1-3 above

Any questions please PM me - do not try and dissect this post in-thread

Beasty wrote: »

Last time it was a "suggestion"/request

Now it's an instruction

Stop all the tit for tat stuff on the stats. None of us are in full possession of the facts and none of us can draw any "definitive" conclusions. Bottom line. It's serious. Not serious in Ireland at this stage, but may become so. Anyone caught up in this is not going to take much solace from any stats however they are complied

Any questions PM me - do not respond to this warning in-thread

Beasty wrote: »

OK

A number of posts have been sanctioned although it could have been many more

Could everyone please re-read the warnings in the OP

Could I also re-emphasise - attack the post, not the poster

I understand people can get very emotional about this sort of thing. Regardless of that there is no reason this cannot be discussed in a civil manner. Yes there are people implying there is little to worry about. Equally there are some doom and gloom merchants in the thread. Despite appearances I actually think most posters are probably somewhere in the middle recognising this is serious, but at this stage not overly so in Ireland

Whatever your own views are please recognise others are entitled to different views., Even if at different extremes please do not try and repeatedly ram your views down the throats of those who have differing views

In due course we may well have a far better understanding of this virus, but at present I do not think anyone can claim anything approaching a full understanding, and as always we need to take information posted by anonymous internet posters with a pinch of salt

Any questions PM me

Beasty wrote: »

I'm opening this one up with a very clear warning. Cut out all this cover-up/conspiracy stuff. If you have a reliable source quote it (not just their words but provide a link to a reliable source) - otherwise your claims carry little if any weight

Beasty wrote: »

A reminder to everyone

It is against site rules to seek or offer any medical advice. Please do not post here about your symptoms asking what to do. Contact your doctor by telephone and they can advise you as appropriate

Beasty wrote: »

A few reminders:

1. Some posters have been less than civil in their posting - particularly in the last few hours. Continue interacting in an uncivil manner and your posting privileges will be removed

2. Until something is reported "officially" treat anything you read here with suspicion. I am not saying posters are deliberately posting misleading or incorrect information, but this site, as well as other social media outlets cannot be considered "verifiable" news outlets. Of course if the likes of the HSE have a verified Twitter account we can assume what they post is accurate. Randomers on here or elsewhere cannot be considered "official" or "reliable" sources

3. I have little doubt there is some kind of lag in reporting "official" updates to numbers as I equally have little doubt there will be procedures to follow before any case becomes formally "confirmed". Hence you may feel you have information that contradicts any "official" information. That's not necessarily the case - it may be that you have access to information before others. Regardless of that do not post it as an actual case here. We can only go by official updates and you can expect others to be sceptical about anything not coming from an official source. That does not make your information wrong, but it needs to be formally verified before you should be claiming anything is "fact"

Beasty wrote: »

I will say this yet again, but from now on not only will your posts be deleted, but you may well get additional sanctions applied

It is against site rules to request or offer any medical advice. If you have symptoms phone your doctor, and do not try and get a diagnosis from some randomer on the internet. Do not ask what medication to take here

Any questions, please PM me

All threadbans carry over, but we will reconsider if anyone wishes to discuss it further via PM

Please remember we have a Conspiracy Theories forum for speculation. Treat any information posted here as if it's from an anonymous internet poster. No-one is an expert here whatever they may claim. Please provide reliable sources where you can, and if you cannot please caveat your claims accordingly

Beasty

First reply, and some stats:

Thread 1 - 9,947 posts in 34 days - 1 post every 4.9 minutes
Thread 2 - 8,575 posts in 125 hours - 1 post every 52 seconds
Thread 3 - 9,601 posts in 105 hours - 1 post every 39 seconds
Thread IV - 9,278 posts in 74 hours - 1 post every 29 seconds
Thread V - 9,852 posts in 74 hours - 1 post every 27 seconds
Thread VI - 9,988 posts in 58 hours - 1 post every 21 seconds

You need to slow down a bit if you wish to flatten this curve.....

Beasty

And if anyone thinks they are getting reply #2, think again....

touts

Channel 4 reporting that 99% of doctors in the UK don't think the NHS can cope with the impending disaster.

Could you imagine if they did that survey here. And a month ago I'd say every Irish person would prefer to ride this out in the hospital systems of the UK or Italy rather than the Irish system.

We will need to triage cases. First up the selfish muppets who went on the piss in the Cheltenham petri-dish for the past week gets treated in a tent out the back of the hospital. They were happy enough to catch it in a beer tent they can suffer with it in a medical tent.

CinemaGuy45

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Last thread closed on page 666 on Friday the 13th with 13 posts shy of 10'000.

Is Besty trying to mock the Gods?

Anyway I will not be going away everything paid for won't get a penny back but fook it not worth it.

coastwatch

Quick calculation of current reported (active) cases per million population,

Italy 247
Norway 171
South Korea 144
Denmark 138
Switzerland 131
Spain 116
Iran 87
Sweden 80
Estonia 60
France 55
Austria 55
Belgium 49
Netherlands 46
Germany 41
Finland 28
Singapore 18
Ireland 18
Czech Republic 13
UK 12
Portugal 11
China 10
Australia 7
USA 6
Japan 4
Canada 4
Poland 2
New Zealand 1
(Iceland 394 per million, pop 340,000)

Quantum Erasure

cnocbui wrote: »

Yes. Pretty much any EU edict can be ignored on the grounds of National security or medical emergency.

Common Travel Area has nothing to do with the EU though

Bob24

I still see questions on whether disposable respirators are providing some protection.

I'll just throw in a picture of the medical team sent by China when they got off the plane in Italy and what they seem to think about it:

Pacing Mule

1 post every 15 seconds here because we're all at home bored

retro:electro

Quarantinies at my place tomorrow night. All invited.

Signore Fancy Pants

It's just the flu lads, calm down and come to Cheltenham.

TheValeyard

Beasty right about now...

Signore Fancy Pants

retro:electro wrote: »

How ye all

Shurrrup yew

niallo27

Italy's new cases are interesting are we reaching a peak there, numbers are not increasing for 3 days.

randy hickey

It's been picked bare in here as well.

20Cent

Feckin ejit, vid in the link

NBA player Rudy Gobert pokes fun at coronavirus by touching every mic at his press conference. Today he tested positive for coronavirus and, as a result, the NBA just suspended the rest of the season.

https://www.reddit.com/r/instantkarma/comments/fh8j5d/nba_player_rudy_gobert_pokes_fun_at_coronavirus/

Sittingpretty

retro:electro wrote: »

Quarantinies at my place tomorrow night. All invited.

PokeHerKing

Trumps presser was both terrifying and hilarious. I rarely watch anything with him speaking but crikey, that was bad.

I truly hope both he and Pence catch covid. For the good of humanity.

branie2

All masses are cancelled until the 29th

nullObjects

I found this useful so posting in case it helps
https://castbox.fm/vb/240021469

(Dermot and Dave podcast interview with a GP)

is_that_so

Beasty wrote: »

First reply, and some stats:

Thread 1 - 9,947 posts in 34 days - 1 post every 4.9 minutes
Thread 2 - 8,575 posts in 125 hours - 1 post every 52 seconds
Thread 3 - 9,601 posts in 105 hours - 1 post every 39 seconds
Thread IV - 9,278 posts in 74 hours - 1 post every 29 seconds
Thread V - 9,852 posts in 74 hours - 1 post every 27 seconds
Thread VI - 9,988 posts in 58 hours - 1 post every 21 seconds

You need to slow down a bit if you wish to flatten this curve.....

Is it any wonder nobody can keep up?

Kermit.de.frog

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1238565510519967747

+2086 new cases Friday and +47 new deaths

fritzelly

branie2 wrote: »

All masses are cancelled until the 29th

Unless you're the pope and you open the church anyway

retro:electro

Breaking my no hugs rule for Beasty cos he’s the real MVP

Kintarō Hattori

I see Poland is closing its borders and banning flights. My understanding would have been that they'd let citizens return but some Poles I know seem to think it's a complete ban on flights.... which wouldn't surprise me.

I have a very anxious mother in law who's not sure she'll be returning home on Monday.

voluntary

billybonkers

How many new cases and deaths in Spain today?

Axfrderr

QUOTE Quantum Erasure
"14 day quarantine for new accounts as well?"

Ah come on now. :pac:

Blueshoe

billybonkers wrote: »

How many new cases and deaths in Spain today?

54 and 104

voluntary

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

I see Poland is closing its borders and banning flights. My understanding would have been that they'd let citizens return but some Poles I know seem to think it's a complete ban on flights.... which wouldn't surprise me.

I have a very anxious mother in law who's not sure she'll be returning home on Monday.

It's a full ban on flights from Sunday. One can only cross the border "on wheels" and only via few dedicated border crossing. All travelers will have 14 days quarantine imposed. No exceptions.


EDIT: Start getting used to living with your mother in law The ban may last a good while

BorneTobyWilde

PokeHerKing wrote: »

Trumps presser was both terrifying and hilarious. I rarely watch anything with him speaking but crikey, that was bad.

I truly hope both he and Pence catch covid. For the good of humanity.

i thought it was brilliant. He has put together a great team, tore up the red tape and put the American People first.

yasmina

Any details on what measures Spain took and when ?

Kermit.de.frog

billybonkers wrote: »

How many new cases and deaths in Spain today?

2086 new cases today, at least 47 new deaths (final figure not out for the latter though)

Tootsie_1

What have the buses been like lately in Dublin busy, empty ? Being redeployed no idea where yet probably somewhere in Dublin city centre don't think driving there will be an option couldn't afford to pay parking everyday Not looking forward to public transport at a time like this.

Urquell

What's going on in Spain exactly that it's spreading so drastically?

Is this what we can look forward to seeing across the pond?

voluntary

billybonkers wrote: »

How many new cases and deaths in Spain today?

+2,086 new cases and 47 deaths

completedit

There doesn’t seem to be the same harrowing stories from ICU’s coming out from España

Urquell

Urquell wrote: »

What's going on in Spain exactly that it's spreading so drastically?

Is this what we can look forward to seeing across the pond?

Testing is ramping up

Expect ireland cases to rise,as more labs opened here,hopefully we can keep deaths and ICU patients to an absolute minimum

alchemist33

This all ends when we get to thread 19, right?

CinemaGuy45

Urquell wrote: »

What's going on in Spain exactly that it's spreading so drastically?

Is this what we can look forward to seeing across the pond?

Nah you lot have Trump running the show everything will be just peachy.

4068ac1elhodqr

coastwatch wrote: »

Cases per million population: Italy 247 Norway 171 South Korea 144 Denmark 138 Switzerland 131 Spain 116 Iran 87 Sweden 80 Estonia 60 France 55 Austria 55 Belgium 49 Netherlands 46 Germany 41 Finland 28 Singapore 18Ireland 18 Czech Republic 13 UK 12 Portugal 11

All the decent 1st world countries (apart from Iran). This WuFlu sure has some notions of itself.

When it's all over there will only be one classificaiton: '2nd world', void of the old, and also void of trees, due to a huge demand for toiletrolls.

Spanish Eyes

As per my username, I visit Spain a lot (a nice spot, has to be said, not the beer and breakfast place ahem).

In mid Feb my finger hovered over the flights, and I said nah, see how it pans out.

So glad my fingers hovered now.

PokeHerKing

Urquell wrote: »

What's going on in Spain exactly that it's spreading so drastically?

Is this what we can look forward to seeing across the pond?

Exponential growth is what's going on and yes we can.

retro:electro

branie2 wrote: »

All masses are cancelled until the 29th

Bob24

Tootsie_1 wrote: »

What have the buses been like lately in Dublin busy, empty ? Being redeployed no idea where yet probably somewhere in Dublin city centre don't think driving there will be an option couldn't afford to pay parking everyday Not looking forward to public transport at a time like this.

I wasn't on the bus, but the ones passing by my window do seem to have at least 50-75% fewer people than usual (rough estimate, I don't have a habit on counting people in buses :-)).

Quantum Erasure

niallo27 wrote: »

Italy's new cases are interesting are we reaching a peak there, numbers are increasing for 3 days.

you have to look at the growth factor, explained at about 5:30 here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kas0tIxDvrg#t=330

D.Q

When this is all said and done this saga of threads will be incredible reading. Hive mind documentation of a pandemic, from the initial humble beginnings to wild hysteria

CinemaGuy45

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

As per my username, I visit Spain a lot (a nice spot, has to be said, not the beer and breakfast place ahem).

In mid Feb my finger hovered over the flights, and I said nah, see how it pans out.

So glad my fingers hovered now.

Was meant to be going to Lanzarote on Monday decided not to have I made the correct call do you think?

ceadaoin.

I noticed during the Trump conference, despite doing the elbow bump thing, they then all took the stage and touched the same microphone repeatedly. Kind of defeats the point. It just shows how much people do stuff like without thinking, it's going to take a lot to be more mindful and change habits

ITman88

Urquell wrote: »

What's going on in Spain exactly that it's spreading so drastically?

Is this what we can look forward to seeing across the pond?

No one can answer that with any confidence.

The Singapore response was fascinating for similar circumstances to ours regarding population and it’s an island, and the economy was preserved 1st and foremost, no schools shut and no lockdown

retro:electro

My boyfriend just informed me that his boss and his girlfriend are off to Tenerife until Thursday, and they plan to rock back into work the following Monday no screening no testing no nothing. People seem to be categorise where is “safe” to travel to based on the amount of positive cases there; completely forgetting the important fact that in order to get there you’ve to travel through an airport likely riddled with the infection and travel on a plane that’s been god knows where before you. My boyfriend is worried because his mother has not only cardiovascular disease but high BP and diabetes, she’s basically a write off if she gets this disease. He’s now thinking of taking the two weeks off when they return because of their moronic and selfish behaviour.