new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

LaFuton · 22-01-2020 12:57am #1

this is one to watch methinks, its in the americas now and can be transmitted person to person.
is this the big plague or even a precursor to it.
any budding virologist here got some links or info for us?

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Stop all the tit for tat stuff on the stats. None of us are in full possession of the facts and none of us can draw any "definitive" conclusions. Bottom line. It's serious. Not serious in Ireland at this stage, but may become so. Anyone caught up in this is not going to take much solace from any stats however they are complied

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22-01-2020 12:59am

Watch out for them canvassers. Keep the door bolted, and the attack dog on standby.

LaFuton · 22-01-2020 1:03am

might put a sign on gate "beware of inflection (sic)"
they'll dimly presume something diseasey

22-01-2020 1:05am

LaFuton wrote: »

might put a sign on gate "beware of inflection (sic)"
they'll dimly presume something diseasey

Especially that of a Cavan origin.

KungPao · 22-01-2020 1:05am

I hear Madagascar has shut down all its ports.

LaFuton · 22-01-2020 1:07am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Especially that of a Cavan origin.

with Meathesque mutation

LaFuton · 22-01-2020 1:08am

KungPao wrote: »

I hear Madagascar has shut down all its ports.

really? wow. we are not gonna hear much about this on rte.

LaFuton · 22-01-2020 1:13am

new virus might be from bats...
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/118956298/are-bats-to-blame-for-chinas-new-virus

un5byh7sqpd2x0 · 22-01-2020 1:13am

KungPao wrote: »

I hear Madagascar has shut down all its ports.

It’s a Pandemic (2)!!

KungPao · 22-01-2020 1:14am

LaFuton wrote: »

really? wow. we are not gonna hear much about this on rte.

The mainstream media won’t carry this. Governments around the world now trying to limit the panic.

LaFuton · 22-01-2020 1:16am

cases in thailand and japan

LaFuton · 22-01-2020 1:19am

KungPao wrote: »

The mainstream media won’t carry this. Governments around the world now trying to limit the panic.

just saw on RT chinese president jingping said on their national tv that it is very serious.

they're not burying or misdirecting it

Borgo · 22-01-2020 1:23am

Stick to the Corona Light sure ye be grand

Ipso · 22-01-2020 1:27am

KungPao wrote: »

The mainstream media won’t carry this. Governments around the world now trying to limit the panic.

The silence is deafening.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/21/health/wuhan-coronavirus-first-us-case-cdc-bn/index.html
https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-what-to-know-about-the-mysterious-illness
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/1st-case-coronavirus-china-confirmed-u-s-n1119486
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51194651
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/officials-confirm-case-coronavirus-200121192504190.html

Beeping Kitchen Appliances · 22-01-2020 1:38am

Every few years we have a terrifying, apocalyptic pandemic. Will always turn out to be nothing (until it turns out to be something)

22-01-2020 1:40am

Ipso wrote: »

The silence is deafening.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/21/health/wuhan-coronavirus-first-us-case-cdc-bn/index.html
https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-what-to-know-about-the-mysterious-illness
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/1st-case-coronavirus-china-confirmed-u-s-n1119486
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51194651
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/officials-confirm-case-coronavirus-200121192504190.html

Yup, the mainstream media have buried the story without a trace. Here's Infowars with the facts:

bodhrandude · 22-01-2020 1:56am

I knew that group The Coronas were up to no good.

:D

4068ac1elhodqr · 22-01-2020 1:58am

The WHO are set to meet later today and discuss it (does not curently advise travel restrictions at this time {not sure why}).

This emergency meeting on Wednesday will discuss whether the virus constitutes a public-health emergency, and whether any further steps are needed to prevent it from becoming a global epidemic.
Likely a bit too late for that.

China's own CDC folks want people to stay in Wuhan, to prevent 2019-ncov spreading further.
Tricky thing is, the Chinese lunar new year is underway (massive travel demands).
Bear in mind LHR has something like x3 daily 18hr direct flights to Wuhan.

On the plus side some say it's not as bad as SARS, which itself wasn't that bad on the grand scheme of things.
Anyway off to dust off the UVC 100w headtorch to blast the virus to bits, upon any near contact.

mikhail · 22-01-2020 2:02am

Legacy Better Explosion wrote: »

On the plus side some say it's not as bad as SARS, which itself wasn't that bad on the grand scheme of things.

Flu kills 100 or so people in Ireland annually. This thing has killed three people globally. It's important that the epidemiologists watch it carefully and take their preventative measures, but the sky isn't falling just yet.

suicide_circus · 22-01-2020 2:06am

Borgo wrote: »

Stick to the Corona Light sure ye be grand

the amount of Guinness drinkers infected: nil

stats dont lie

4068ac1elhodqr · 22-01-2020 2:08am

mikhail wrote: »

Flu kills 100 or so people in Ireland annually. This thing has killed three people globally. It's important that the epidemiologists watch it carefully and take their preventative measures, but the sky isn't falling just yet.

Indeed SARS only took out 800 and was headline news for years.
Still enough of a concern for WHO to have a get together later today.
Pneumonia can effect young healthy people as well as the infirm.

Quantum Erasure · 22-01-2020 2:19am

mikhail wrote: »

Flu kills 100 or so people in Ireland annually. This thing has killed three people globally.

it's killed 6, so far. and its only just started

Beeping Kitchen Appliances · 22-01-2020 2:23am

The Who and the Coronas. Anyone else confirmed yet?

mikhail · 22-01-2020 2:23am

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

it's killed 6, so far. and its only just started

Wow. Six people. I suspect my grandmother's cooking killed more. There are 11.08 million people in Wuhan. Well, 11.079994 now. Let's all panic.

4068ac1elhodqr · 22-01-2020 2:30am

mikhail wrote: »

Wow. Six people. I suspect my grandmother's cooking killed more. There are 11.08 million people in Wuhan. Well, 11.079994 now. Let's all panic.

Only a few hundred (so far) have been infected so far (according to officals there).

If it causes pneumonia, and then doesn't respond to antibiotic treatment (as is the case currently), then in terms of mortality (like SARS) may kill 10% of individuals who contract it.

SARS infected about 8,000 and killed 800. Any 'panic' from Wuhan's side (not here), and embargo on flights there-from, might not be a bad thing at all.

skooterblue2 · 22-01-2020 2:31am

Beeping Kitchen Appliances wrote: »

Every few years we have a terrifying, apocalyptic pandemic. Will always turn out to be nothing (until it turns out to be something)

Its been over 100 years since the Spanish flu came back with the soldiers after World War One.

Quantum Erasure · 22-01-2020 2:35am

Evolution of Swine Influenza A/H1N1(2009) in Canada

Yurt2 · 22-01-2020 2:51am

When you fly into Japan or Korea, they have sophisticated passenger temperature screening devices that one walks through immediately after dismembarkment for flights from high-risk countries. Indeed, the case in Korea was picked up at the airport and the individual was quarantined. They've had such systems since SARS and countries like these should be ok with controlling the spread.

Chinese New year is starting this week, hundreds of millions of Chinese traveling at home to abroad. If the government had any sense, they'd shut-down travel out of Wuhan; but I doubt they will.

skooterblue2 · 22-01-2020 2:56am

mikhail wrote: »

Let's all panic.

Meanwhile fund and Asset managers are shorting invents while Deutsche Bank are telling you there are no end to the good times in sight.

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 22-01-2020 5:26am

Legacy Better Explosion wrote: »

The WHO are set to meet later today and discuss it (does not curently advise travel restrictions at this time {not sure why}).

I'm gonna make a judgement call here... but any band that coined the lyrics "hope I die before I get old" probably doesn't have the best interests of every demographic covered on this one!

I would defo give this bad boy to the rolling stones instead... those chaps don't look like they're ever going to die tbh! Give old mick a call instead... he'll know what to do! :pac:

I'll get me coat... :P

igCorcaigh · 22-01-2020 7:23am

LaFuton wrote: »

any budding virologist here got some links or info for us?

Follow @HelenBranswell on twitter.

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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