Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

MrMusician18 wrote: »

I'm after cynic from the restrictions thread, and while I know it's filled with cranks, one can't help but feel saddened. If the attitudes in that thread are in any way prevalent, we haven't a hope.

Yeah. I’m not sure how prevalent they are to be quite honest, but I suspect a lot less than they seem in an online thread, and that’s based on recent opinion polling. Online bubbles can be very misleading.

Great to hear 'strategy' in the speech. Not so great to hear "Some people want herd immunity, some people want zero covid. We are doing neither" Looks like we are going for the halfway house, try to please everybody and please nobody. Self inflicted death by a thousand cuts.

Zerocovid is a stupid name. I really don't know how this is going to work without effective quarantine. Sure airline figures are down but 10% of passengers and flights is still an awful lot of people who we are trusting to do the right thing. Given the numerous examples from public health where this hasn't been the case I wouldn't hold my breath. There'll be alot of people on the herd immunity side who won't consent to their liberty being curtailed. Equally there'll be those on the other side who see the folly of a 6 week Hail Mary followed by a few weeks and another lock down. Why should we severely restrict life so that it can just blow back up again.

What'll happen with the annual pilgrimage to remember why you left this country. (Christmas returnees) That'll still go ahead and will torpedo any affect of this lockdown. Therefore the only logical conclusion is it won't work. I hold nothing against those who do this or intend to do this. Merely pointing out the inconsistency.

MM laughing and joking saying we really need a vaccine next year was galling. There is really no guarantee that it'll be effective enough to have an impact. Obviously live in hope but the leader of a country does not place all his eggs in one basket.

The only countries that have done well in this are those that have implemented effect quarantine. This goes for every infectious disease that overwhelms a country ever. Trying to do mental gymnastics around this point is proving to be hugely costly. While level 5 looks like it's needed, what then?

The concept of quarantine has been known since biblical times and is known to have been practised through history in various places. Notable quarantines in modern history include that of the village of Eyam in 1665 during the bubonic plague outbreak in England; East Samoa during the 1918 flu pandemic; the Diphtheria outbreak during the 1925 serum run to Nome, the 1972 Yugoslav smallpox outbreak, and extensive quarantines applied throughout the world during the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarantine