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Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

  • 19-10-2020 9:47pm
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    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,841 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Sephiroth_dude


    Previous threads:

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    The daily numbers

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    “Average” is a non-defined term. “Mean” and “Median” are both mathematically defined terms.
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    Hence the Mean of 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 7, 8 = (1+2+3+3+4+7+8)/7 = 4
    Median is the midpoint number. In the above example it’s the 4th number in the sequence of 7 numbers – in this case 3
    Both numbers are examples of “averages”. Not every average is the “Mean”, not every average is the “Median”, but every “Mean” and every “Median” number is an average

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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,841 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Sephiroth_dude


    #First


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 262 ✭✭ perrito caliente


    The Flu strikes back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭ Shanotheslayer


    The Flu strikes back.

    I was just responding to your other post. Where you called someone a drama queen.

    My missus is a healthcare worker and the fact we are back in level 5 has had a heavy effect after all the work they've done.

    So you can shove it up your hole if you think they're doing SFA


  • Registered Users Posts: 302 ✭✭ Divisadero


    The Flu strikes back.

    You said it was basically the Flu. Donald I thought you usually used Twitter to spout your 'wisdom'.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭ Deeper Blue


    4th October: "Our plan is to learn to live with the virus. No need for level 5"

    2 weeks later: "Our plan is to go to level 5 and pray for a vaccine"

    Embarrassing


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,117 ✭✭✭✭ Strumms


    40.3 million worldwide cases

    1.1 million worldwide deaths , 1852 in Ireland.

    Yes , the flu evidently.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,552 ✭✭✭ Goldengirl


    Let's save Christmas ! ..forget Halloween ;/


  • Registered Users Posts: 74,942 ✭✭✭✭ JP Liz V1


    Does Penneys close tomorrow?


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,117 ✭✭✭✭ Strumms


    El Sueño wrote: »
    4th October: "Our plan is to learn to live with the virus. No need for level 5"

    2 weeks later: "Our plan is to go to level 5 and pray for a vaccine"

    Embarrassing

    Yep, the ‘living with the virus’ statement was just plain odd. There is only managing the behaviors of the virus and the citizens of the country.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,473 ✭✭✭✭ PTH2009


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Let's save Christmas ! ..forget Halloween ;/

    Hope so, We have already lost

    Paddys Day
    Easter
    Summer was an improvement but not the same
    Halloween

    Christmas is the worst one too lose


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  • Registered Users Posts: 302 ✭✭ Divisadero


    I was just responding to your other post. Where you called someone a drama queen.

    My missus is a healthcare worker and the fact we are back in level 5 has had a heavy effect after all the work they've done.

    So you can shove it up your hole if you think they're doing SFA

    You're wasting your breath with some of the 'experts' on here but I understand your frustration. I and many others are fully aware of what your wife has to deal with. Or at least have a good idea. My only regret with today's announcement is that there were any exceptions (eg. GAA, Construction) and that the schools are still open. I want lockdown to have the best chance to succeed to protect the elderly, vulnerable and hospital capacity. And of course our Healthcare workers. I posted before that if I was a Healthcare worker I would be livid at the attitude of an increasing percentage of our population and the lack of enforcement of flagrant breaches. Some of these people will no doubt be the first to complain if they are unfortunate enough to get ill and can't be seen promptly.

    Give my best to your wife and to her colleagues. I and many others greatly respect what they do and what they have to endure both physically and mentally.


  • Registered Users Posts: 827 ✭✭✭ Real Donald Trump


    The next six weeks are crucial :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,786 ✭✭✭✭ eagle eye


    It'll be great to see case numbers dropping rapidly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,423 ✭✭✭ Berties_Horse


    I'm still trying to wrap my head around the logic of our government, or rather the madness unfolding. You limit funeral attendees to ten but allow hundreds of people mill around the school gates. Pubs, restaurants and hairdressers are gone to the wall yet thirty lads can jump all over each on the GAA pitch. Forgive me for thinking the "Level 5" restrictions are flawed to the point of being cracked. And inside these cracks Covid can still thrive, improvement if any in the coming weeks will be minimal to the point of redundancy. It's going to be a long winter under such clueless leadership.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,611 ✭✭✭ MrMusician18


    I'm after coming from the restrictions thread, and while I know it's filled with cranks, one can't help but feel saddened. If the attitudes in that thread are in any way prevalent, we haven't a hope.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 77,841 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Sephiroth_dude


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Does Penneys close tomorrow?

    Wednesday evening I think


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭ fritzelly


    Wednesday evening I think

    Still time to get ur knickers


  • Registered Users Posts: 675 ✭✭✭ TheDenialTwist


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Does Penneys close tomorrow?

    I presume it will close on Wednesday Liz seeing as Level 5 comes into effect on midnight Wednesday.

    However, when you asked the question (Tue), Wednesday is tomorrow :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭ 440Hertz


    I'm after cynic from the restrictions thread, and while I know it's filled with cranks, one can't help but feel saddened. If the attitudes in that thread are in any way prevalent, we haven't a hope.

    Yeah. I’m not sure how prevalent they are to be quite honest, but I suspect a lot less than they seem in an online thread, and that’s based on recent opinion polling. Online bubbles can be very misleading.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,611 ✭✭✭ MrMusician18


    I'm still trying to wrap my head around the logic of our government, or rather the madness unfolding. You limit funeral attendees to ten but allow hundreds of people mill around the school gates. Pubs, restaurants and hairdressers are gone to the wall yet thirty lads can jump all over each on the GAA pitch. Forgive me for thinking the "Level 5" restrictions are flawed to the point of being cracked. And inside these cracks Covid can still thrive, improvement if any in the coming weeks will be minimal to the point of redundancy. It's going to be a long winter under such clueless leadership.

    This has been explained hundreds of times to you so I can only determine that you are either thick or ignoring the explanation because it's inconvenient.

    The purpose of the restrictions is to limit social interaction. The government has deemed some interaction as more essential than others, for example children getting an education over getting a haircut.

    The idea is to reduce the total number of interactions.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,611 ✭✭✭ MrMusician18


    440Hertz wrote: »
    Yeah. I’m not sure how prevalent they are to be quite honest, but I suspect a lot less than they seem in an online thread, and that’s based on recent opinion polling. Online bubbles can be very misleading.

    I hope so. If the public health measures remain undermined then life will remain on pause for much longer.

    I don't think I'll ever be able to forgive those that have acted so selfishly to prolong this. Like that bollocks and his mates that caused a 56 case outbreak...


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,552 ✭✭✭ Goldengirl


    I'm after cynic from the restrictions thread, and while I know it's filled with cranks, one can't help but feel saddened. If the attitudes in that thread are in any way prevalent, we haven't a hope.

    I think / hope the majority are not like that , just there .
    Lock em up and throw away the key ..boards ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,423 ✭✭✭ Berties_Horse


    This has been explained hundreds of times to you so I can only determine that you are either thick or ignoring the explanation because it's inconvenient.

    The purpose of the restrictions is to limit social interaction.

    You landed on your backside trying counter my primary points. Read my post again and have another go, even if numeracy is a weakness of yours.


  • Registered Users Posts: 675 ✭✭✭ TheDenialTwist


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    I think / hope the majority are not like that , just there .
    Lock em up and throw away the key ..boards ;)

    Very good Golden :D

    I needed a laugh, thank you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭ caveat emptor


    Great to hear 'strategy' in the speech. Not so great to hear "Some people want herd immunity, some people want zero covid. We are doing neither" Looks like we are going for the halfway house, try to please everybody and please nobody. Self inflicted death by a thousand cuts.

    Zerocovid is a stupid name. I really don't know how this is going to work without effective quarantine. Sure airline figures are down but 10% of passengers and flights is still an awful lot of people who we are trusting to do the right thing. Given the numerous examples from public health where this hasn't been the case I wouldn't hold my breath. There'll be alot of people on the herd immunity side who won't consent to their liberty being curtailed. Equally there'll be those on the other side who see the folly of a 6 week Hail Mary followed by a few weeks and another lock down. Why should we severely restrict life so that it can just blow back up again.

    What'll happen with the annual pilgrimage to remember why you left this country. (Christmas returnees) That'll still go ahead and will torpedo any affect of this lockdown. Therefore the only logical conclusion is it won't work. I hold nothing against those who do this or intend to do this. Merely pointing out the inconsistency.

    MM laughing and joking saying we really need a vaccine next year was galling. There is really no guarantee that it'll be effective enough to have an impact. Obviously live in hope but the leader of a country does not place all his eggs in one basket.

    The only countries that have done well in this are those that have implemented effect quarantine. This goes for every infectious disease that overwhelms a country ever. Trying to do mental gymnastics around this point is proving to be hugely costly. While level 5 looks like it's needed, what then?
    The concept of quarantine has been known since biblical times and is known to have been practised through history in various places. Notable quarantines in modern history include that of the village of Eyam in 1665 during the bubonic plague outbreak in England; East Samoa during the 1918 flu pandemic; the Diphtheria outbreak during the 1925 serum run to Nome, the 1972 Yugoslav smallpox outbreak, and extensive quarantines applied throughout the world during the COVID-19 pandemic in 2020.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarantine



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭ 99nsr125


    I hope so. If the public health measures remain undermined then life will remain on pause for much longer.

    I don't think I'll ever be able to forgive those that have acted so selfishly to prolong this. Like that bollocks and his mates that caused a 56 case outbreak...

    But did you notice thet didn't say any of those people were admitted to hospital or icu.

    You can bet your bollocks if they were we'd know all about it,


  • Registered Users Posts: 74,942 ✭✭✭✭ JP Liz V1


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Still time to get ur knickers

    Commando is best ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,619 ✭✭✭✭ ILoveYourVibes


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It'll be great to see case numbers dropping rapidly.
    Construction ALL construction deemed essential ..schools open ..ALL schools even secondary. GAA Open..local football open ..horse racing open. Hardware stores and garden centers so we can have our salads ready to go ..open.

    Not a chance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 675 ✭✭✭ TheDenialTwist


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Commando is best ;)

    I concur, knickers are overrated.

    However, having said that, I'll be sending someone up to Wilton tomorrow to pick me up some woolly socks and comfy pjs for the next 6 weeks.

    I'd go myself but I've been ill for last seven months with a respiratory illness, so I'm "cocooning", unfortunately :(


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭✭ Arghus


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    I think / hope the majority are not like that , just there .
    Lock em up and throw away the key ..boards ;)

    That thread is an embarrassment.

    It's a bad reflection on boards that all that complete nonsense is allowed to flow freely there.


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