The official AH McGregor vs Mayweather thread

Eyes Down Field · 22-08-2017 7:07am

Mayweather DQ

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

None of those 8oz glove fights were at 154lbs, this'll be his first and Mayweather hasn't knocked anyone out since the 90's (apart from a few women that is).

As pointed out by others, Mayweather has quite a few KO/TKO wins over the years. And all (bar 1) while wearing 8 oz gloves.

It's true none of those stops came at 154. But none of those fights were against boxers as bad as McGregor, They were against the best boxers in the world. Oscar De La Hoya, Miguel Cotto and Canelo Alvarez.

cournioni · 22-08-2017 7:27am

Mayweather K.O.

Surprised at how many reckon Mayweather will KO McGregor. I don't think that is very likely at all.

I'd say there's more of a chance of Mayweather winning on points, McGregor KOing Mayweather or McGregor getting disqualified for doing something illegal (which would normally be legal in MMA) in the ring.

Eyes Down Field · 22-08-2017 8:14am

Mayweather DQ

cournioni wrote: »

Surprised at how many reckon Mayweather will KO McGregor. I don't think that is very likely at all.

I'd say there's more of a chance of Mayweather winning on points, McGregor KOing Mayweather or McGregor getting disqualified for doing something illegal (which would normally be legal in MMA) in the ring.

How many Mayweather fights have you watched? You seem to be oblivious to how great of a boxers he is, or how crap McGregor is at the same.

Order of likelyhood,

Mayweather by KO/TKO
Mayweather by McGregor's disqualification
Mayweather by decision
Mayweather suffering a heart attack in the ring
Mayweather downing in his spit bucket
Hell freezing over
Pigs flying
McGregor winning in anyway.

MadDog76 · 22-08-2017 5:21pm

Mayweather K.O.

Mayweather does not KO opponents, he doesn't even go for the KO anymore ........... he's a counter-puncher and defensive fighter ......... in fact he's the best counter-puncher/defensive fighter for decades and possibly of all-time.

His last actual KO (discounting his Ortiz "KO"

6 years ago or his last TKO 10 years ago) was 18 years ago!!!

He'll win but he'll win the way he always usually wins ......... by Unanimous Decision.

AllGunsBlazing · 22-08-2017 6:03pm

Mayweather K.O.

MadDog76 wrote: »

Mayweather does not KO opponents, he doesn't even go for the KO anymore ........... he's a counter-puncher and defensive fighter ......... in fact he's the best counter-puncher/defensive fighter for decades and possibly of all-time.

Took the Pernell Whitaker style of fighting and made it his own. Not great to watch but it's incredibly effective.

rossie1977 · 22-08-2017 6:43pm

Mayweather DQ

cournioni wrote: »

Surprised at how many reckon Mayweather will KO McGregor. I don't think that is very likely at all.

I'd say there's more of a chance of Mayweather winning on points, McGregor KOing Mayweather or McGregor getting disqualified for doing something illegal (which would normally be legal in MMA) in the ring.

McGregor has never even had an amateur fight let alone a pro one and he is going in against one of the greatest boxers of all time. McGregor struggled in the standup against Nate Diaz and now he is going against a guy who was only hit by 15% of jabs from Canelo Alvarez (argubly the best pound for pound boxer in the world right now).

Unless something crazy happens or they completely work the fight (very possible) this should be completely one sided and over before 6 rounds. As one guy put it yesterday it's like throwing a lion into the ocean and expecting him to kill a shark.

Necro · 22-08-2017 6:53pm

Mayweather K.O.

rossie1977 wrote: »

McGregor has never even had an amateur fight let alone a pro one and he is going in against one of the greatest boxers of all time. McGregor struggled in the standup against Nate Diaz and now he is going against a guy who was only hit by 15% of jabs from Canelo Alvarez (argubly the best pound for pound boxer in the world right now).

Unless something crazy happens or they completely work the fight (very possible) this should be completely one sided and over before 6 rounds. As one guy put it yesterday it's like throwing a lion into the ocean and expecting him to kill a shark.

I agree with most of your points (bar the Nate stand-up... sure, he got caught but he put him on his arse twice in the second fight and messed his face up in both bouts) but others more educated than me will tell you he has experience as an amateur. Not a high level, granted but he has fought boxing matches in his youth.

The rest of your post is my thoughts on the bout as well. I'd love to see an upset and a McGregor win but no scenario flashes through my mind where Mayweather loses.

FTA69 · 22-08-2017 7:05pm

rossie1977 wrote: »

McGregor has never even had an amateur fight let alone a pro one and he is going in against one of the greatest boxers of all time. McGregor struggled in the standup against Nate Diaz and now he is going against a guy who was only hit by 15% of jabs from Canelo Alvarez (argubly the best pound for pound boxer in the world right now).

Unless something crazy happens or they completely work the fight (very possible) this should be completely one sided and over before 6 rounds. As one guy put it yesterday it's like throwing a lion into the ocean and expecting him to kill a shark.

I agree with a lot of what you're saying, McGregor was a decent amateur boxer however. (Credit due to him)

GerryDerpy · 22-08-2017 7:18pm

McGregor DQ

McGregor KO.

Never before I have been more sure about something that the rest of the world was wrong about.

s7ryf3925pivug · 22-08-2017 7:29pm

Mayweather K.O.

Mayweather won't know what to expect as he won't have seen McGregor box. McGregor will have a strategy in mind tailored to his opponent. I reckon he'll try to surprise him, possibly with an unorthodox approach, or maybe just by being highly aggressive from the start.

Donald Trump · 22-08-2017 7:37pm

Mayweather DQ

Adalynn Deep Sword wrote: »

Mayweather won't know what to expect as he won't have seen McGregor box. McGregor will have a strategy in mind tailored to his opponent. I reckon he'll try to surprise him, possibly with an unorthodox approach, or maybe just by being highly aggressive from the start.

Do you not think, that in all his many years of boxing, that he never saw a novice boxer before?

He knows full well what to expect. A lot of money for a handy nights work

Galwayguy35 · 22-08-2017 7:51pm

Mayweather K.O.

Hard to see how McGregor can win in a boxing match with Mayweather but you never know, either way both of them will wake up next morning multi millionaires for a few hours work.

Eyes Down Field · 22-08-2017 8:09pm

Mayweather DQ

Adalynn Deep Sword wrote: »

Mayweather won't know what to expect as he won't have seen McGregor box. McGregor will have a strategy in mind tailored to his opponent. I reckon he'll try to surprise him, possibly with an unorthodox approach, or maybe just by being highly aggressive from the start.

That's what the last 47 men who faced Mayweather said. They all had a game plan in mind, a strategy, and they all failed. The highly aggressive approach has been tried multiple times and it doesn't work. Mayeather is too good defensively, too good of a counter puncher to fall for that

s7ryf3925pivug · 22-08-2017 8:54pm

Mayweather K.O.

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

That's what the last 47 men who faced Mayweather said. They all had a game plan in mind, a strategy, and they all failed. The highly aggressive approach has been tried multiple times and it doesn't work. Mayeather is too good defensively, too good of a counter puncher to fall for that

Didn't say I thought he'd win. I voted for Mayweather on points.

22-08-2017 8:56pm

I fully expect Conor to tko him within 30 seconds..then to go back to ufc to take on ggg..then Andre the giant..then the incredible hulk..then Mars, the Roman god of war..to be crowned king of fighting..and make 100 billion euros.

Outlaw Pete · 22-08-2017 9:24pm

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

It's true none of those stops came at 154. But none of those fights were against boxers as bad as McGregor,

Never suggested they were... and it's why I only give McGregor a slim chance of victory in the fight.

FTA69 wrote: »

Lastly Outlaw Pete, his last KO was actually in 2011 against Victor Ortiz.

I addressed that:

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

As for including Ortiz as a knockout. Don't embarrass yourself.

weldoninhio · 22-08-2017 9:27pm

Mayweather DQ

FTA69 wrote: »

I agree with a lot of what you're saying, McGregor was a decent amateur boxer however. (Credit due to him)

Have you got a link to his amateur record??

DeanAustin · 22-08-2017 9:45pm

Mayweather DQ

Fair play to McGregor. He's going to make a mint and I'm thrilled for the fella.

I can't see any way he wins though. Every bit of logic says there is no chance. But I still wouldn't bet the house on it.

FTA69 · 23-08-2017 6:44am

weldoninhio wrote: »

Have you got a link to his amateur record??

http://www.punditarena.com/mmaufc/jotoole/conor-mcgregors-first-boxing-club-could-tell-a-million-stories/

He won the Dublin Novices, which is something to be very proud of in fairness.

Your Face · 23-08-2017 9:18am

I think MacGregor is going to get himself disqualified once he starts losing the fight.

He will boast afterwards saying Mayweather never actually beat him etc.

everlast75 · 23-08-2017 9:21am

Mayweather DQ

Your Face wrote: »

I think MacGregor is going to get himself disqualified once he starts losing the fight.

He will boast afterwards saying Mayweather never actually beat him etc.

And lose 90% of his purse. Nope...

Subcomandante Marcos · 23-08-2017 9:33am

Mayweather DQ

everlast75 wrote: »

And lose 90% of his purse. Nope...

He doesn't lose 90% for any DQ, it's for specific reasons like kicks, take down, throws, intentional elbows, etc.

Effects · 23-08-2017 9:38am

Laois_Man wrote: »

You're completely wrong in every aspect of your reply. Also according to McGregor, Mayweather is already talking to him about a rematch under MMA rules.

That's total BS, and everyone knows it is.

According to McGregor he also retired last April.

weldoninhio · 23-08-2017 9:49am

Mayweather DQ

FTA69 wrote: »

http://www.punditarena.com/mmaufc/jotoole/conor-mcgregors-first-boxing-club-could-tell-a-million-stories/

He won the Dublin Novices, which is something to be very proud of in fairness.

So 1 novice win when he was 16?? That's his great amateur record??

Your Face · 23-08-2017 10:12am

everlast75 wrote: »

And lose 90% of his purse. Nope...

I doubt that.

He will be heavily fined if it's an egregious foul

He wont lose his purse if he rabbit punches, low blows etc.

FTA69 · 23-08-2017 10:37am

weldoninhio wrote: »

So 1 novice win when he was 16?? That's his great amateur record??

See this is the problem with boards; people would rather jump straight in with dig rather than actually address the points that someone made. Let me break it down:

1) I never said he had a "great amateur record" I said he was a decent boxer as an amateur as in he competed while training at a good club and had a decent degree of success.

2) He won the Dublin Novices. That doesn't mean he won one fight as a beginner. It means he won the citywide tournament for those boxers who hadn't competed on an open class format; a tournament by the way which would have featured plenty of talented young boxers and it's no small feat to win it.

Before diving in with snide comments, you'd be better off learning a small bit about the sport and the subject you're talking about.

yourdeadwright · 23-08-2017 10:39am

Mayweather K.O.

FTA69 wrote: »

weldoninhio wrote: »

So 1 novice win when he was 16?? That's his great amateur record??

See this is the problem with boards; people would rather jump straight on with dogs rather than actually address the points that someone made. Let me break it down:

1) I never said he had a "great amateur record" I said he was a decent boxer as an amateur as in he competed while training at a good club and had a decent degree of success.

2) He won the Dublin Novices. That doesn't mean he won one fight as a beginner. It means he won the citywide tournament for those boxers who hadn't competed on an open class format; a tournament by the way which would have featured plenty of talented young boxers and it's no small feat to win it.

Before diving in with snide comments, you'd be better off learning a small bit about the sport and the subject you're talking about.

Has it not been widely reported that he never won the Dublin Novices and that is a made up fact ?
I could be wrong but iv heard it's not true at all

FTA69 · 23-08-2017 10:48am

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Has it not been widely reported that he never won the Dublin Novices and that is a made up fact ?
I could be wrong but iv heard it's not true at all

I don't know to be honest, I'm only going on what I've read.
I never boxed in Dublin or had much to do with competition there so can't speak from experience. Peter Sutcliffe seems to talk in the article I posted about McGregor competing, and I doubt he's a spoofer on the matter.

FTA69 · 23-08-2017 10:54am

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/the-secret-behind-conor-mcgregors-striking-skills/

Here's Sutcliffe saying he competed and won in the Novices as an under 17 so I'd say that's reliable enough.

Drumorig · 23-08-2017 11:56am

Any way to watch this streaming? I'm with virgin but will be in a hotel not showing it.
I know there will be free links but looking to pay for something reliable if anyone knows?

GerryDerpy · 23-08-2017 12:07pm

McGregor DQ

Drumorig wrote: »

Any way to watch this streaming? I'm with virgin but will be in a hotel not showing it.
I know there will be free links but looking to pay for something reliable if anyone knows?

Sky sports box office

Necro · 23-08-2017 12:12pm

Mayweather K.O.

weldoninhio wrote:

So 1 novice win when he was 16?? That's his great amateur record??

Jesus H. Christ. Do you literally trawl through every McGregor thread looking for reasons to denigrate him? Obsessed much?

Drumorig · 23-08-2017 12:23pm

GerryDerpy wrote: »

Sky sports box office

Ah cheers, just what I was looking for, thanks.

s7ryf3925pivug · 23-08-2017 6:50pm

Mayweather K.O.

Your Face wrote: »

I think MacGregor is going to get himself disqualified once he starts losing the fight.

He will boast afterwards saying Mayweather never actually beat him etc.

Maybe. His instincts will be trained for MMA, not boxing. If he's under pressure and under attack he's likely to act on that - reactively rather than deliberately.

normanoffside · 23-08-2017 7:49pm

Mayweather DQ

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

None of those 8oz glove fights were at 154lbs, this'll be his first and Mayweather hasn't knocked anyone out since the 90's (apart from a few women that is).

So Why did you vote Floyd By (T)KO on the boxing forum poll?

Outlaw Pete · 23-08-2017 8:27pm

normanoffside wrote: »

So Why did you vote Floyd By (T)KO on the boxing forum poll?

Cause I think he'll win

What the hell is wrong with you people.

Million and one fcuking times I have said I only give McGregor a slim chance.

How does my pointing out that none of Mayweather's 8oz glove fights were at 154lbs contradict that??

normanoffside · 23-08-2017 8:31pm

Mayweather DQ

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Cause I think he'll win

What the hell is wrong with you people.

Million and one fcuking times I have said I only give McGregor a slim chance.

How does my pointing out that none of Mayweather's 8oz glove fights were at 154lbs change that??

You spend your whole life on multiple forums arguing for a Conor win but think Floyd will win. Call me crazy but that is mind boggling

Cheerful Spring · 23-08-2017 8:36pm

Conor has never got hit continuously by a pro boxer. I watched that Diaz fight he wobbled when the left hand landed. MMA Conor is not used to high volume punches that could be an issue? He not used to taking body shots. He does not hold he's hands high, better do this against Floyd!

If Conor is going to win this he have to land early, before Floyd find he's timing. Age could catch up to Floyd too?

Conor will have the better strength and power and reach, all good when you fighting a smaller man.

Cheerful Spring · 23-08-2017 8:44pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

So 1 novice win when he was 16?? That's his great amateur record??

Conor has a fighting IQ brain and he's willing to learn, and he is not not an average fighter, he is a world class MMA fighter. MMA is not the same as boxing, i agree , but he has boxing skills. I think he has a chance early in the fight? Maybe Floyd punches don't faze him either or suddenly Floyd feels his age?

Outlaw Pete · 23-08-2017 8:45pm

normanoffside wrote: »

You spend your whole life on multiple forums arguing for a Conor win but think Floyd will win. Call me crazy but that is mind boggling

You have a comprehension issue in this regard if you think I give Conor more than a "slim chance" of winning.

21 times on the boxing forum thread (a thread you read) I've clearly said I only give him a "slim chance' of victory, but yet over and over again I am accused of secretly believing that he will win. You couldn't make it up.

You (and a bunch of other boxing forum regulars) can't seem to get it into your heads that just because someone argues against the notion that McGregor has 'no chance' (the popular contention on that forum) that doesn't therefore mean that they believe McGregor will win. They (and me) are just attempting to make the case for why we feel he has some chance.

It's really not difficult folks.

Outlaw Pete · 23-08-2017 8:48pm

Last presser has just started....... doesn't seem to be a crowd, or they're not mic'd up..... strange atmosphere, stark contrast to the pressers on the tour anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z55MRVn5wP0

Subcomandante Marcos · 23-08-2017 8:52pm

Mayweather DQ

Is there like 7 people at the presser?

weldoninhio · 23-08-2017 10:00pm

Mayweather DQ

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Conor has a fighting IQ brain and he's willing to learn, and he is not not an average fighter, he is a world class MMA fighter. MMA is not the same as boxing, i agree , but he has boxing skills. I think he has a chance early in the fight? Maybe Floyd punches don't faze him either or suddenly Floyd feels his age?

Has he better boxing skills than all of the World Champions, 22 I think including Pacquaio, De La Hoya etc., that have faced Mayweather and lost??

He has no chance, this is a cash grab, nothing else. If anything this fight shows how easily people are influenced by media and hype these days. It's horrendous.

Outlaw Pete · 23-08-2017 10:10pm

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Is there like 7 people at the presser?

Most likely they kept it to press only given all the booing and jeering Mayweather received during the tour.

Subcomandante Marcos · 23-08-2017 10:13pm

Mayweather DQ

Or to keep drunk 20 year old J1 students out so the press can actually ask questions.

osarusan · 23-08-2017 10:16pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

He has no chance, this is a cash grab, nothing else.

He has decent power, so he has some some chance, however small, that he can land a fight-ending blow.

Mayweather's tendency is to just safely win rounds rather than go for the kill, and if he does that, and the rounds go on and on, he'll allow McGregor more time to land that blow.

Just like others before him though, I still don't think McGregor will land that blow...he will just labour on and on, as the rounds go against him and the gulf in skill becomes ever more apparent.

Akrasia · 23-08-2017 10:30pm

My wife and all her family are big McGregor fans, and we're all gonna stay up all night this Saturday to watch the fight..

But honestly, I think McGregor is gonna get creamed. Conor is a great athlete, a great fighter, but his skills are mostly wasted in the restrictive regime of Boxing compared to MMA.

McGregor can taunt his opponent in MMA, but Mayweather won't give a sh1t. He'll defend his strikes and counter punch, and I think this will be over in less than 3 rounds.

No MMA fighter has the power in his strikes that Mayweather has. Conor literally won't know what hit him.

SEPT 23 1989 · 23-08-2017 10:34pm

Atari jaguar to fly in to ring and beat the snot out of both.

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Last presser has just started....... doesn't seem to be a crowd, or they're not mic'd up..... strange atmosphere, stark contrast to the pressers on the tour anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z55MRVn5wP0

Cant watch but

Did the crowd shout ?

Hes behind you!!!

Oh no he isn't !!!

Surreptitious · 24-08-2017 9:47pm

'I would like to take this chance, to apologise to absolutely nobody.'

Pero_Bueno · 24-08-2017 9:53pm

McGregor K.O.

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