The official AH McGregor vs Mayweather thread

cavemeister · 21-08-2017 1:17pm

Mayweather DQ

Here are my 2 cents.

1. Organisers will say to Mayweather, give them a show. for €100M carry McGregor for 3 rounds. In the fourth, go to town. 4th round KO Mayweather.

2. Organisers will say to Mayweather and McGregor, go the full 12 rounds. Mcgregor to win on points. Mayweather to demand a rematch for another 100M

It doesn't really matter because, whatever the outcome, it's an outcome already decided by the organisers. You hardly think that they would be willing to pay McGregor 100 million to get KO'd inside 2 mins?

valoren · 21-08-2017 1:21pm

Missing option "The Inland Revenue Service"

The only reason this event is taking happening in the first place.

elefant · 21-08-2017 1:23pm

Mayweather DQ

MagicIRL wrote: »

You might not agree with his media persona, you might not like how he sells his fights, but how you can route against a fellow Irishman in arguably the biggest sporting event of the modern era, of all time even? I can't fathom.

His media persona doesn't stoke up Irish pride in me. I really don't like the fact that, living abroad, the first thing on many people's lips when they think of 'Ireland' is Conor McGregor.

A super athlete, certainly. A example for how self-belief in the face of doubts from everyone else can move mountains, definitely. But his 'media persona' is an embarrassment to me as a personification of Irishness.

In saying that, Mayweather is an utterly despicable character. I don't know who I want to lose more.

Sofiztikated · 21-08-2017 1:28pm

McGregor DQ

cavemeister wrote: »

Here are my 2 cents.

1. Organisers will say to Mayweather, give them a show. for €100M carry McGregor for 3 rounds. In the fourth, go to town. 4th round KO Mayweather.

2. Organisers will say to Mayweather and McGregor, go the full 12 rounds. Mcgregor to win on points. Mayweather to demand a rematch for another 100M

It doesn't really matter because, whatever the outcome, it's an outcome already decided by the organisers. You hardly think that they would be willing to pay McGregor 100 million to get KO'd inside 2 mins?

One problem with both points. The organizers ARE Mayweather and McGregor. They are the promotions team.

And problem with the second point. Floyds got serious money invested in his 50-0 brand, and will make him more money than the rematch. A rematch also means he has to fight again.

McGregor gets paid, regardless of the outcome. And he could get sparked in the first exchange, as could Mayweather.

Ush1 · 21-08-2017 1:32pm

Can you imagine Mayweather not only agreeing to lose but trying to let McGregor win on points. Dear God...

osarusan · 21-08-2017 1:36pm

Notions of a fix are ludicrous.

dd972 · 21-08-2017 1:38pm

Mayweather DQ

Please God, one punch each and a double knockout, a fitting finale to a tale of two tossers.

Eyes Down Field · 21-08-2017 1:42pm

Mayweather DQ

Sofiztikated wrote:

And problem with the second point. Floyds got serious money invested in his 50-0 brand, and will make him more money than the rematch. A rematch also means he has to fight again.

He has several trade marks pending on various 50-0 themed brands. TMT 50, TBE 50 etc.

21-08-2017 1:45pm

Arghus wrote: »

Whatever my own personal opinions about it, there's no way I could say that it isn't a sport. That's a nonsense argument, made when people let their own biases ride roughshod over basic facts.

Sport: an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.

I was referring to this particular event.

It's sport in the sense that WWE is sport. People like excessive violence and are happy to go along with the idea that it's a real contest. But it's not, it's an event purely designed to raise money, there are no titles at stake, one fellow came out of retirement, the other has no boxing background. Call it an event, entertainment, a show, a spectacle, but it's not sport.

To suggest it is a legitimate competition discredits, for starters, boxers who ply their trade for years in the hopes of winning titles in real bouts.

Adamocovic · 21-08-2017 2:04pm

Mayweather DQ

MagicIRL wrote: »

You might not agree with his media persona, you might not like how he sells his fights, but how you can route against a fellow Irishman in arguably the biggest sporting event of the modern era, of all time even? I can't fathom.

This is something I get thrown at me a lot too. I'm not a McGregor fan, I have a lot of respect for what he's accomplished and he is entertaining but personally I'm just not a fan of his, indifferent to him winning or losing. Now that being said I'm not a fan of Mayweather either, so I just want an entertaining affair regardless of outcome.

But I get it a lot that when people I know find out I'm not a McGregor fan the argument that I should be due to the fact he's Irish is normally thrown at me. Jedward are Irish too, doesn't mean I should be routing for them in talent shows/the charts (no offence Jedward).

Now some will argue it's different and he's representing Ireland so you should back him but the way the sport works in my eyes he's representing himself more so while displaying pride in where he's from. Which fair play to him for, but doesn't mean I'll feel any patriotic obligation to route for him.

Obviously I understand why people from Ireland who are big fans feel differently but just my own take on it all. Taking nothing away from the accomplishments he's managed and the work he's put in.

Ush1 · 21-08-2017 2:09pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I was referring to this particular event.

It's sport in the sense that WWE is sport. People like excessive violence and are happy to go along with the idea that it's a real contest. But it's not, it's an event purely designed to raise money, there are no titles at stake, one fellow came out of retirement, the other has no boxing background. Call it an event, entertainment, a show, a spectacle, but it's not sport.

To suggest it is a legitimate competition discredits, for starters, boxers who ply their trade for years in the hopes of winning titles in real bouts.

Deleted User wrote: »

It is all a bit cartoonish, designed to milk money from those who think "ground and pound" is a legitimate move in a "sport". They'll cough up their hard earned, admire the tattoos and beards, drool if there's a bit of blood on the canvas, laugh at witticisms like "ride me dick ya bitch", and analyse what amounts to a pantomime fight between a retired scumbag and a skanger...

So you weren't talking about MMA here?

21-08-2017 2:12pm

Ush1 wrote: »

So you weren't talking about MMA here?

Um, you realise that you have quoted 2 separate posts. Sometimes different posts will contain different points. It's a crazy world!

Ush1 · 21-08-2017 2:15pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Um, you realise that you have quoted 2 separate posts. Sometimes different posts will contain different points. It's a crazy world!

It doesn't matter because your answer is the same, you clearly don't consider this fight sport, or MMA a sport.

Obviously waffle no matter what spin you put on it.

The_Kew_Tour · 21-08-2017 2:18pm

Remember kids, it's Boxing not UFC that is taking place on Saturday night/Sunday Morning

Ush1 · 21-08-2017 2:20pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Remember kids, it's Boxing not UFC that is taking place on Saturday night/Sunday Morning

Well it technically is UFC in that the UFC is a promotor of this boxing match but it's not an MMA fight of course.

jester77 · 21-08-2017 2:26pm

What time will this roughly start at?

Half debating with myself if I will stay awake for it.

Subcomandante Marcos · 21-08-2017 2:28pm

Mayweather DQ

Ush1 wrote: »

Well it technically is UFC in that the UFC is a promotor of this boxing match but it's not an MMA fight of course.

The promoters are Mayweather Promotions and McGregor Entertainment.
The UFC have no role in promotion of the fight but Zuffa, who own the UFC, will get a large proportion of McGregor's cut of the purse, ppv and ticket sales.

Subcomandante Marcos · 21-08-2017 2:29pm

Mayweather DQ

jester77 wrote: »

What time will this roughly start at?

Half debating with myself if I will stay awake for it.

5-6 am. Better off setting an alarm.

Sofiztikated · 21-08-2017 2:29pm

McGregor DQ

jester77 wrote: »

What time will this roughly start at?

Half debating with myself if I will stay awake for it.

Main card is "scheduled" for 4am Irish time.

More than likely will be after 5 before it actually starts.

jester77 · 21-08-2017 2:32pm

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

5-6 am. Better off setting an alarm.

cheers. The kids will have me awake by that time... their cartoons will have to wait!

Ush1 · 21-08-2017 2:36pm

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

The promoters are Mayweather Promotions and McGregor Entertainment.
The UFC have no role in promotion of the fight but Zuffa, who own the UFC, will get a large proportion of McGregor's cut of the purse, ppv and ticket sales.

Why is Dana White at the press conferences and the UFCs social media posting so often about the fight then?

I was under the impression the deal was done with Zuffa(the UFC) who then gave permission for McGregor to fight in a boxing match.

Eyes Down Field · 21-08-2017 2:49pm

Mayweather DQ

Ush1 wrote: »

Why is Dana White at the press conferences and the UFCs social media posting so often about the fight then?

I was under the impression the deal was done with Zuffa(the UFC) who then gave permission for McGregor to fight in a boxing match.

The UFC are strictly speaking not involved in the promotion. It's a co promotion of Showtime, Mayweather promotions and McGregor sports & entertainment. The UFC have a separate agreement with McGregor that they will get a large percentage of his cut.

Subcomandante Marcos · 21-08-2017 5:19pm

Mayweather DQ

Ush1 wrote: »

Why is Dana White at the press conferences

Because any opportunity Dana White has to self promote he'll take it. The man is a leech.

AllGunsBlazing · 21-08-2017 5:47pm

Mayweather K.O.

Mayweather comfortably on points with McGregor never getting within a country mile of landing anything. Followed by uproar among Irish travelling fans that they were ripped off.

Honestly, the whole thing reeks of a staged exhibition bout like the ones put on between wrestlers and boxers back in the day.

FTA69 · 21-08-2017 6:06pm

One thing we can be guaranteed of: the lads will be the best of friends after a massively underwhelming spectacle. McGregor will be described by Floyd as "a hell of a competitor, I was so surprised at what he had in there etc etc, what a guy, nothing but respect for him blah blah blah." Conor will describe Floyd as "the best ever, a master of his craft, a young guy from Crumlin managed to challenge the best of all time, I lost to the best, I can hold my head up high etc etc."

Then off to celebrate making millions for a glorified exhibition bout while people sit bleary eyed at 6am and say what a waste of money.

Also the undercard is rubbish now Porter has pulled out so we won't even have any actually decent fight worth staying up for.

LordSutch · 21-08-2017 6:14pm

The only way McGregor can win is if he talks enough prefight sh1t to make Mayweathers ears bleed, this would result in McGregor getting a TKO....
Failing that scenario 'the one with the small head' should beat the bearded loudmouth into a pulp within about three rounds IMO.

twinytwo · 21-08-2017 6:37pm

McGregor DQ

Hector Savage wrote: »

Really feel confident for MacGregor here.
Mayweather is scared, and can't handle southpaws ... I think MacGregor will knock him out in 2nd R.

Let's be honest.. if by some miracle connor rattles Floyd.. . Floyd is gonna run and hug and win on points.

...And Justice · 21-08-2017 7:16pm

Draw

LordSutch wrote: »

The only way McGregor can win is if he talks enough prefight sh1t to make Mayweathers ears bleed, this would result in McGregor getting a TKO....
Failing that scenario 'the one with the small head' should beat the bearded loudmouth into a pulp within about three rounds IMO.

Beards are not fashionable anymore. I hope he gets flattened. He'll be the winner either way. 100 million in the bank. It's a spectacle for money nothing more. It would be great if mayweather came in with an electric razor hidden in the front of his gloves and shaved the fecker to death.

LordSutch · 21-08-2017 7:27pm

What station on TV?

SteM · 21-08-2017 7:40pm

LordSutch wrote: »

What station on TV?

Sky Sports Box Office.

Necro · 21-08-2017 7:46pm

Mayweather K.O.

MANSPREADER wrote:

You do realise no one's forcing you to watch, Captain Buzzkill?

I wouldn't bother even engaging tbh. For someone with a stick up their ass about McGregor and MMA, they sure like commenting on every aspect of any thread that pops up round these parts. Better not to feed those who live under bridges is my motto.

DrPhilG · 21-08-2017 8:04pm

twinytwo wrote: »

Let's be honest.. if by some miracle connor rattles Floyd.. . Floyd is gonna run and hug and win on points.

This sums up my prediction.

The only way Conor wins is to lay Floyd out stiff. This is not MMA where a knockdown will allow him to follow up with ground and pound to finish it. Even if Conor lands a one in a million shot and drops him, Floyd will get recovery time leaving Conor needing to land that one in a million shot twice.

Only way to win is to land a one in 2 million shot that knocks him cold, not just down.

I just hope that win or lose, he comea back to MMA. He is legitimately an outstanding fighter and it would be a shame to see him retire at his age.

Eyes Down Field · 21-08-2017 8:10pm

Mayweather DQ

BREAKING NEWS. The Fight Is Off!..

Justin Beiber has just broken up with Floyd Mayweather by unfollowing him on Instagram. Floyd is reportedly heartbroken and in no emotional condition to fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNY8LNi9d1A

BillyBobBS · 21-08-2017 8:14pm

Mayweather DQ

DrPhilG wrote: »

This sums up my prediction.

The only way Conor wins is to lay Floyd out stiff. This is not MMA where a knockdown will allow him to follow up with ground and pound to finish it. Even if Conor lands a one in a million shot and drops him, Floyd will get recovery time leaving Conor needing to land that one in a million shot twice.

Only way to win is to land a one in 2 million shot that knocks him cold, not just down.

I just hope that win or lose, he comea back to MMA. He is legitimately an outstanding fighter and it would be a shame to see him retire at his age.

Doubt we'll see him in MMA again tbh. He get's what 3m a fight in MMA. If he put's up even a half decent display this weekend he'll have another boxing match lined up to make hay whilst the sun shines. If the fight is anywhere close either way you can guarantee they'll be having a rematch for mega money.

weldoninhio · 21-08-2017 8:19pm

Mayweather DQ

BillyBobBS wrote: »

Doubt we'll see him in MMA again tbh. He get's what 3m a fight in MMA. If he put's up even a half decent display this weekend he'll have another boxing match lined up to make hay whilst the sun shines. If the fight is anywhere close either way you can guarantee they'll be having a rematch for mega money.

So he'll defo be back to the UFC come Sunday is what you're saying?

BillyBobBS · 21-08-2017 8:30pm

Mayweather DQ

weldoninhio wrote: »

So he'll defo be back to the UFC come Sunday is what you're saying?

Yeah more or less

Richard Hillman · 21-08-2017 10:46pm

McGregor DQ

Conor McGregor is the baddest man on the planet and a man I would never ever back against.

He will win by knockout in the 3rd Round to become the greatest fighter of all time and Irelands greatest ever sportsperson.

Boxing will be declared dead after Saturday night.

DrPhilG · 21-08-2017 11:08pm

BillyBobBS wrote: »

Doubt we'll see him in MMA again tbh. He get's what 3m a fight in MMA.

Much more than that these days.

Well over $10m all included I'd say. Still a drop in the ocean of course compared to this.

Noveight · 21-08-2017 11:17pm

Mayweather K.O.

Mayweather on points, both fighters will be gracious in victory/defeat and walk away with their pockets nicely lined.

I'd be surprised if there hasn't been collusion between camps tbh.

Outlaw Pete · 22-08-2017 12:29am

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

Mayeather has fought 45 of his 49 fights to date on 8oz gloves, all of his KO wins have come in 8oz gloves.

None of those 8oz glove fights were at 154lbs, this'll be his first and Mayweather hasn't knocked anyone out since the 90's (apart from a few women that is).

Subcomandante Marcos · 22-08-2017 1:03am

Mayweather DQ

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

None of those 8oz glove fights were at 154lbs, this'll be his first and Mayweather hasn't knocked anyone out since the 90's (apart from a few women that is).

Since October 2000 he has 6 TKO's, 1 KO and 2 people who quit on their stools between rounds.

Slightly more than none.

And those were against world class boxers.

gitzy16v · 22-08-2017 1:10am

McGregor DQ

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Since October 2000 he has 6 TKO's, 1 KO and 2 people who quit on their stools between rounds.

Slightly more than none.

And those were against world class boxers.

He's right about Floyd and 8oz(obv at 147 but its a good while back) but still....MCG has only got his MMA style in his advantage...Floyd is the best matchup(for a top level boxer) for Conor...no real KO power...no danger of KO..BUT BUT BUT....Conor will be doing well to hit him never mind knock him out.

Mayweather is an anti-fighter he wont trade he will avoid.

Subcomandante Marcos · 22-08-2017 1:13am

Mayweather DQ

Conor's corner will throw the towel in within six rounds or he'll quit on his stool between rounds. He's going to be eating shots for as long as it lasts.

gitzy16v · 22-08-2017 1:15am

McGregor DQ

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Conor's corner will throw the towel in within six rounds or he'll quit on his stool between rounds. He's going to be eating shots for as long as it lasts.

Did you hear how they are talking?:eek::eek::eek:

Ive an awful feeling them lads might be a bit reluctant to throw towels in.

Outlaw Pete · 22-08-2017 1:28am

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Since October 2000 he has 6 TKO's, 1 KO and 2 people who quit on their stools between rounds.

Slightly more than none.

lol :P

We were talking about "Knockouts" not 'TKOs' or fighters quitting.... what the hell are you on about?

As for including Ortiz as a knockout. Don't embarrass yourself.

Again: Floyd hasn't knocked anyone out since the 90's (apart from women perhaps).

Subcomandante Marcos · 22-08-2017 1:31am

Mayweather DQ

Conor has 1 knock out in in the last 5 years and 4 total...

And none of them at 154, in 8oz gloves, against elite boxers.

You make it hard on yourself to be fair.

Outlaw Pete · 22-08-2017 1:36am

Eh, no idea what you're on about. I only give McGregor a slim chance of winning. Hence my first post on this thread.

Now back to Mayweather......... you admit he hasn't knocked anyone out since the 90's now?

Subcomandante Marcos · 22-08-2017 1:41am

Mayweather DQ

He has stopped 9 world class boxers since the 90's.

Stop trying to clutch at straws.

Outlaw Pete · 22-08-2017 1:46am

He hasn't KNOCKED ANYONE OUT since the 90's. No KOs!!!

Do you understand what a 'Knockout' is??

Clearly not.

FTA69 · 22-08-2017 6:23am

A "stoppage" win can come via two methods of knockout - where somebody fails to make the count or when the referee has to halt the contest. Both KOs and TKOs are often referred to as "knockouts".

So yeah, Mayweather hasn't generally have concussive one-punch power but he's well able to stop fighters as well.

Lastly Outlaw Pete, his last KO was actually in 2011 against Victor Ortiz.

The official AH McGregor vs Mayweather thread

Comments