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Antifa.....the joke that keeps on giving

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    Depp wrote: »
    It is a terrorist organisation from how they're behaving lately whether they're responsible for this or not.

    They're a terrorist organisation in that they are tacit supporters of radical Islam and similarly,they are enemies of the Freedon Of Speech,especially when it doesnt suit their deranged communist nonsense.

    Assembling in public areas whilst wearing masks should not be allowed,either...these fools are cowards who are trying to destroy a democracy they had no hand in contributing to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    They're a terrorist organisation in that they are tacit supporters of radical Islam and similarly,they are enemies of the Freedon Of Speech,especially when it doesnt suit their deranged communist nonsense.

    Assembling in public areas whilst wearing masks should not be allowed,either...these fools are cowards who are trying to destroy a democracy they had no hand in contributing to.

    Exactly, but they get a pass for some unbeknownst reason...Honestly I see antifa members in the same light as neonazis, absolute scum.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    They're a terrorist organisation in that they are tacit supporters of radical Islam and similarly,they are enemies of the Freedon Of Speech,especially when it doesnt suit their deranged communist nonsense.

    Assembling in public areas whilst wearing masks should not be allowed,either...these fools are cowards who are trying to destroy a democracy they had no hand in contributing to.

    Bit of a contradiction there.
    Ban this group for free speech lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    20Cent wrote: »
    Bit of a contradiction there.
    Ban this group for free speech lol

    how so? didnt realize using violence to silence others fell under ''free speech''


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Depp wrote: »
    how so? didnt realize using violence to silence others fell under ''free speech''

    If someone commits a crime they can be charged and punished according to the law. Banning a group because of the actions of a few is overkill and ironic if freedom of speech is your thing.
    Donald Trump encouraged violence to silence dissent should the republicn party be banned?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Depp


    20Cent wrote: »
    If someone commits a crime they can be charged and punished according to the law. Banning a group because of the actions of a few is overkill and ironic if freedom of speech is your thing.
    Donald Trump encouraged violence to silence dissent should the republicn party be banned?

    so by that logic we shouldn't ban isis or neo-nazi groups either?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Antifa are today more likely to be sharing a platform with a CEO at a corporate sponsored event on activism than changing society.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Here's a picture of the alleged Antifa bomb claim. Not much to go on since anyone can sign up and upload to the website. Actually it doesn't make any sense at all that Antifa would write an islamist letter and leave it at the scene and then next day go claim it on some website, right wing trolls more likely

    C9MKI9AVwAA38x-.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    The thing about AntiFa is that they make a bit more sense in mainland European countries such as Spain and Italy than in the UK or USA, there is a rump of "classic" Fascist support existing.
    I also have the impression police in Europe come down a lot harder on their stuff than they do in the UK and possibly USA.

    I did find the counter right-wing march stuff in Dublin entertaining though, bunch of white Irish people attacking foreigners in the name of anti-nationalism and xenophobia :rolleyes:

    Overall though Anti-Fa aren't worth worrying about, they don't influence public opinion apart from against them, if they wanted to do something more extreme I would hazard they are riddled with police spies and ideologically they don't make much sense.
    What they are useful for though is highlighting hypocrisy in relation to those who refuse to condemn their actions despite claiming opposition to violence and extremist politics


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    Depp wrote: »
    Exactly, but they get a pass for some unbeknownst reason...Honestly I see antifa members in the same light as neonazis, absolute scum.

    Have you seen the video on youtube where they were harassing a " skinhead "? Turned out the guy had alopecia but they still kept trying to get to him


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Have you seen the video on youtube where they were harassing a " skinhead "? Turned out the guy had alopecia but they still kept trying to get to him

    Post it up then.
    Probably another fake news one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    The thing about AntiFa is that they make a bit more sense in mainland European countries such as Spain and Italy than in the UK or USA, there is a rump of "classic" Fascist support existing.
    I also have the impression police in Europe come down a lot harder on their stuff than they do in the UK and possibly USA.

    I did find the counter right-wing march stuff in Dublin entertaining though, bunch of white Irish people attacking foreigners in the name of anti-nationalism and xenophobia :rolleyes:

    Overall though Anti-Fa aren't worth worrying about, they don't influence public opinion apart from against them, if they wanted to do something more extreme I would hazard they are riddled with police spies and ideologically they don't make much sense.
    What they are useful for though is highlighting hypocrisy in relation to those who refuse to condemn their actions despite claiming opposition to violence and extremist politics

    The UK and US have long well established white supremacist and nazi movements.
    There isn't really much if one in Ireland because when they try to meet in public they are shut down.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    20Cent wrote: »
    The UK and US have long well established white supremacist and nazi movements.
    There isn't really much if one in Ireland because when they try to meet in public they are shut down.

    Who says who and what can be shut down?

    There was a (sort-of) march in Dublin for the racist group Black Lives Matter and nobody shut them down...why is that?

    More left-wing virtue signalling perhaps?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    20Cent wrote: »
    Post it up then.
    Probably another fake news one.


    Her ya go..no doubt you will be along to discredit the source and the video itself because it's somehow not real:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3n640w_azk


    Here they are harassing a middle aged man for supporting the police..listen in particular to the language from the females
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiUAIM4olZE


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    20Cent wrote: »
    The thing about AntiFa is that they make a bit more sense in mainland European countries such as Spain and Italy than in the UK or USA, there is a rump of "classic" Fascist support existing.
    I also have the impression police in Europe come down a lot harder on their stuff than they do in the UK and possibly USA.

    I did find the counter right-wing march stuff in Dublin entertaining though, bunch of white Irish people attacking foreigners in the name of anti-nationalism and xenophobia :rolleyes:

    Overall though Anti-Fa aren't worth worrying about, they don't influence public opinion apart from against them, if they wanted to do something more extreme I would hazard they are riddled with police spies and ideologically they don't make much sense.
    What they are useful for though is highlighting hypocrisy in relation to those who refuse to condemn their actions despite claiming opposition to violence and extremist politics

    The UK and US have long well established white supremacist and nazi movements.
    There isn't really much if one in Ireland because when they try to meet in public they are shut down.

    I think it's a bit different, some European countries actually had facist/military dictatorship not that long ago, a country like Italy had Mussolini's grand-daughter serving in the ruling party, tiny parties like the BNP aren't the same in the USA UK and Ireland facism was always either reacted against or ignored by the establishment.
    I don't think the Irish have nothing similar because of groups being broken up, it's because if your a young ultra nationalist lad thats angry there is much more established groups to join


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    Who says who and what can be shut down?

    There was a (sort-of) march in Dublin for the racist group Black Lives Matter and nobody shut them down...why is that?

    More left-wing virtue signalling perhaps?

    Saying black lives matter is racist ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    I think it's a bit different, some European countries actually had facist/military dictatorship not that long ago, a country like Italy had Mussolini's grand-daughter serving in the ruling party, tiny parties like the BNP aren't the same in the USA UK and Ireland facism was always either reacted against or ignored by the establishment.
    I don't think the Irish have nothing similar because of groups being broken up, it's because if your a young ultra nationalist lad thats angry there is much more established groups to join

    There were two attempts to launch extreme right wing racist groups in the last year. Both were shut down and it wasn't libertarians debating with them that did it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 98 ✭✭PraxisPete


    Ah yeah, anti fascists, terrible stuff.

    The Irish AFA have done a fine job of keeping Youth Defence and their mates in their box over the last 30 years.

    The reason we don't get neo nazis like other countries is because they think we're scum, gypsies and historically worse than the Muslims it's popular to hate now. I'm assuming the teenagers on here that are on this thread that have sympathy for these lads aren't aware that if you're Irish they hate you too.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    PraxisPete wrote: »
    Ah yeah, anti fascists, terrible stuff.


    Oh dear.....


    PRIME BASTARD.
    A Leader of the Left, what else would you expect! THE DISGRACED PAEDOPHILE FOUNDER OF THE FAR LEFT GROUP ANTI-FASCIST IRELAND, PATRICK CORCORAN, KNOWN AS " PAT C.", LEAVING COURT AFTER HIS CONVICTION ON CHILD PORN CHARGES.
    This fellow had abused decent Irish patriotic people for years. And now the group he helped found in Ireland, AFA, that he brought over here from England, are attacking the meetings of the respectable law-abiding new Irish political party, Identity Ireland.
    This is the picture of your typical Irish leftie, a member of the so-called "liberal elite" in Ireland.
    Corcoran was also an editor on Indimedia.ie , the far left online media website where he slandered many decent people in the course of his duties there. He was a doyen of the Irish Left and set up a lot of their initiatives in Ireland such as the vengeful AFA gang. But since his fall his former colleagues are now openly discussing all his evil doings against a lot of people in Irish public life.
    In short "Pat C", as he was known, was a prime bastard in every way. And his legacy still lives on in AFA Ireland to this day.
    The Kilkenny Journal gets behind the scenes and brings you what's really going on, the facts about the movers, the truth about the shakers, and their putred skeletons in their cupboards. This is a very evil man, the groups he founded and was an activist in, like AFA Ireland, are still out there carrying out his evil.
    In fact they have called a meeting for the clock tower on the Quay in Waterford City for this Saturday at 1.30 p.m. to go and disrupt a protest by the new party Identity Ireland led by that decent Irishman , the Kilkenny Dail candidate Peter O'Loughlin.
    Maybe the people of Waterford will turn out and show what they think of AFA Ireland and their paedophile founder pictured here.
    WHERE IS HE NOW?
    He wasn't at the Waterford meetings today although he is still a leader of the Leftist AFA Ireland. It has to be said that between him and the abuse of women by Sinn Fein it's a very poor lookout for the Left in Ireland right now. There are some very sick socialists around these days, Connolly would turn in his grave.
    safe_image.php?d=AQC0dU-Otz_v7R-C&w=112&h=112&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.independent.ie%2Fincoming%2Farticle29755225.ece%2FALTERNATES%2Fh342%2FPatrick%2520Corcoran%252004.jpg&cfs=1&jq=75&sx=100&sy=0&sw=342&sh=342&ext=jpg&_nc_hash=AQDw5QxiRZMv3jqTFormer civil servant caught with 7,000 child porn images avoids jail

    independent.ie



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    Oh dear.....


    PRIME BASTARD.
    A Leader of the Left, what else would you expect! THE DISGRACED PAEDOPHILE FOUNDER OF THE FAR LEFT GROUP ANTI-FASCIST IRELAND, PATRICK CORCORAN, KNOWN AS " PAT C.", LEAVING COURT AFTER HIS CONVICTION ON CHILD PORN CHARGES.
    This fellow had abused decent Irish patriotic people for years. And now the group he helped found in Ireland, AFA, that he brought over here from England, are attacking the meetings of the respectable law-abiding new Irish political party, Identity Ireland.
    This is the picture of your typical Irish leftie, a member of the so-called "liberal elite" in Ireland.
    Corcoran was also an editor on Indimedia.ie , the far left online media website where he slandered many decent people in the course of his duties there. He was a doyen of the Irish Left and set up a lot of their initiatives in Ireland such as the vengeful AFA gang. But since his fall his former colleagues are now openly discussing all his evil doings against a lot of people in Irish public life.
    In short "Pat C", as he was known, was a prime bastard in every way. And his legacy still lives on in AFA Ireland to this day.
    The Kilkenny Journal gets behind the scenes and brings you what's really going on, the facts about the movers, the truth about the shakers, and their putred skeletons in their cupboards. This is a very evil man, the groups he founded and was an activist in, like AFA Ireland, are still out there carrying out his evil.
    In fact they have called a meeting for the clock tower on the Quay in Waterford City for this Saturday at 1.30 p.m. to go and disrupt a protest by the new party Identity Ireland led by that decent Irishman , the Kilkenny Dail candidate Peter O'Loughlin.
    Maybe the people of Waterford will turn out and show what they think of AFA Ireland and their paedophile founder pictured here.
    WHERE IS HE NOW?
    He wasn't at the Waterford meetings today although he is still a leader of the Leftist AFA Ireland. It has to be said that between him and the abuse of women by Sinn Fein it's a very poor lookout for the Left in Ireland right now. There are some very sick socialists around these days, Connolly would turn in his grave.
    safe_image.php?d=AQC0dU-Otz_v7R-C&w=112&h=112&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.independent.ie%2Fincoming%2Farticle29755225.ece%2FALTERNATES%2Fh342%2FPatrick%2520Corcoran%252004.jpg&cfs=1&jq=75&sx=100&sy=0&sw=342&sh=342&ext=jpg&_nc_hash=AQDw5QxiRZMv3jqTFormer civil servant caught with 7,000 child porn images avoids jail

    independent.ie


    The "Kilkenny journal" isn't a real newspaper.


  • Registered Users Posts: 98 ✭✭PraxisPete


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    Oh dear.....


    PRIME BASTARD.
    A Leader of the Left, what else would you expect! THE DISGRACED PAEDOPHILE FOUNDER OF THE FAR LEFT GROUP ANTI-FASCIST IRELAND, PATRICK CORCORAN, KNOWN AS " PAT C.", LEAVING COURT AFTER HIS CONVICTION ON CHILD PORN CHARGES.
    This fellow had abused decent Irish patriotic people for years. And now the group he helped found in Ireland, AFA, that he brought over here from England, are attacking the meetings of the respectable law-abiding new Irish political party, Identity Ireland.
    This is the picture of your typical Irish leftie, a member of the so-called "liberal elite" in Ireland.
    Corcoran was also an editor on Indimedia.ie , the far left online media website where he slandered many decent people in the course of his duties there. He was a doyen of the Irish Left and set up a lot of their initiatives in Ireland such as the vengeful AFA gang. But since his fall his former colleagues are now openly discussing all his evil doings against a lot of people in Irish public life.
    In short "Pat C", as he was known, was a prime bastard in every way. And his legacy still lives on in AFA Ireland to this day.
    The Kilkenny Journal gets behind the scenes and brings you what's really going on, the facts about the movers, the truth about the shakers, and their putred skeletons in their cupboards. This is a very evil man, the groups he founded and was an activist in, like AFA Ireland, are still out there carrying out his evil.
    In fact they have called a meeting for the clock tower on the Quay in Waterford City for this Saturday at 1.30 p.m. to go and disrupt a protest by the new party Identity Ireland led by that decent Irishman , the Kilkenny Dail candidate Peter O'Loughlin.
    Maybe the people of Waterford will turn out and show what they think of AFA Ireland and their paedophile founder pictured here.
    WHERE IS HE NOW?
    He wasn't at the Waterford meetings today although he is still a leader of the Leftist AFA Ireland. It has to be said that between him and the abuse of women by Sinn Fein it's a very poor lookout for the Left in Ireland right now. There are some very sick socialists around these days, Connolly would turn in his grave.
    safe_image.php?d=AQC0dU-Otz_v7R-C&w=112&h=112&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.independent.ie%2Fincoming%2Farticle29755225.ece%2FALTERNATES%2Fh342%2FPatrick%2520Corcoran%252004.jpg&cfs=1&jq=75&sx=100&sy=0&sw=342&sh=342&ext=jpg&_nc_hash=AQDw5QxiRZMv3jqTFormer civil servant caught with 7,000 child porn images avoids jail

    independent.ie


    Back to Stormfront there like a good lad.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    20Cent wrote: »
    The "Kilkenny journal" isn't a real newspaper.


    So the independent isnt either?...if you look,it was they who originally published news of his conviction.

    Another fingers-in-ears moment from the Loony Left..."not listening nah nah nah"


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    PraxisPete wrote: »
    Back to Stormfront there like a good lad.


    So you're defending the convicted paedophile,eh? This seems to be common amongst those who support Sharia law too.

    Maybe you should move to another country where your views won't appear so abhorrant.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    So the independent isnt either?...if you look,it was they who originally published news of his conviction.

    Another fingers-in-ears moment from the Loony Left..."not listening nah nah nah"

    A guy was arrested for child porn. He had some involvement in left wing groups. Whats your point?


  • Registered Users Posts: 98 ✭✭PraxisPete


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    So you're defending the convicted paedophile,eh? This seems to be common amongst those who support Sharia law too.

    Maybe you should move to another country where your views won't appear so abhorrant.

    Nobody knows who that lad is. The Independent makes no mention of his supposed involvement with AFA.

    If anything it reflects poorly on the civil service.

    Also, what's the craic with running around calling people you don't like paedophiles? It's not a particularly smart way to win an argument.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,186 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    RayM wrote: »
    In fairness, it sometimes is...


    Interesting that assaulting someone with right wing views is seen as funny and thanked by the resident lefties.

    Would it be equally funny to see a left wing proponent get slapped by a skinhead right winger ?

    FTA69 wrote: »
    Depp wrote: »
    Just out of interest, do you have any involvement with antifa personally?

    Not any more really, no. I'm all for people confronting fascists, I just found Antifa to be a subculture in many cases who would rather run around and get in scraps rather involve themselves in actual processes of creating change. That's a massive generalisation but it's all a bit too "scene" for me.

    I find your attitude pretty hypocritical.
    You complain that Tommy Robinson is still a racist and can't possibly have changed his outlook or opinion upon leaving BNP or EDL, but yet you can now distance yourself from antifa and find them a bit too "scene". :rolleyes:

    It is this double standard shyte that really gets me with a lot of people with your viewpoint.
    As with above posts it is perfectly ok to hit some on the right with an unprovoked punch because they don't agree with you.

    The new left for want of a better description are really pi**ing off people in the centre and are driving more people to the right than the right could ever dream of.
    Hell we are still in the centre, it is just people like you labeling us as fascists, bigots, nazis, alt right or whatever other buzzword can be dreamt up.

    If anything the right will be moving to the centre what with all the former leftists and centrists joining them.

    And the new left are wondering why people are voting for the likes of Brexit, Trump, etc and why the likes of Corbyn has as much chance of being PM elected as Screaming Lord Sutch.
    FTA69 wrote: »
    ...
    It isn't some Pakistani bus driver who is the problem lad, ...

    I think you will find they have more of a problem with Pakistani taxi drivers. ;)
    Then again so do under age girls in lots of British towns.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    PraxisPete wrote: »
    Nobody knows who that lad is. The Independent makes no mention of his supposed involvement with AFA.

    He was one of the leaders of Irish AFA.

    PraxisPete wrote: »
    Also, what's the craic with running around calling people you don't like paedophiles? It's not a particularly smart way to win an argument.

    One of the things we are interested in at the moment is the continued existence of reactionary norms such as the so called nuclear family. By drawing on the work of Wilhem Reich, who examined the idea of fascism as a symptom of sexual repression, we are taking the Reicheann approachby advocating for the early managed sexualisation of children so as to prevent the formation of any earlier fascist traits.

    This is what Antifa said in an interview


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    jmayo wrote: »
    Interesting that assaulting someone with right wing views is seen as funny and thanked by the resident lefties.

    Would it be equally funny to see a left wing proponent get slapped by a skinhead right winger ?

    Right Wing views? Is that the euphemism for Neo Nazi these days? Spenser is a Neo Nazi, he is right wing in the same way that a Stalinist is left wing, in that they have lost the plot completely.

    As for the violence against him, it is of course wrong, but doesn't compare to his fellow Neo Nazi's walking into a Church, Mosque or a Gurdwara, and buthering people. The level of violence carried out by Neo Nazi's like Spenser is in order of magnitude worse, than anything done to them.

    I have about as much sympathy for a Neo Nazi like Spenser, as I do for someone like Anjem Choudary, that is to say 0 sympathy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,570 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    RayM wrote: »
    In fairness, it sometimes is...


    Nazi?

    Hmm... dressed all in black, part of a mob, opposed to free speech, activism through violence, most-likely an advocate of third position

    Oh wait, that video title was talking about the guy who got assaulted, not the attacker, my bad.

    To paraphrase what someone else here has said, the alt-right and far left are two cheeks of the same arse.


  • Registered Users Posts: 98 ✭✭PraxisPete


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    This is what Antifa said in an interview

    I read that thread on Stormfront too. Are you the same lad that posted it there?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs



    To paraphrase what someone else here has said, the alt-right and far left are two cheeks of the same arse.
    So much this.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    PraxisPete wrote: »
    I read that thread on Stormfront too. Are you the same lad that posted it there?

    I don't read stormfront..but if reading it is being used as an insult by antifa in some way i might well start.

    And the days of shutting down discourse by shouting "racist" or "Nazi" or "facist" are long over..you might need to rethink your strategy when defending convicted peadophiles too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 98 ✭✭PraxisPete


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    I don't read stormfront..but if its being used as an insult by antifa in some way i might well start

    You've put up two posts that are taken directly from it. You should give it a read though. If you've got your information regarding the paedo from somewhere else you can see where it was invented.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    PraxisPete wrote: »
    You've put up two posts that are taken directly from it.


    So you say...but if you google "irish antifa paedophile" you get more than one entry...reddit is covering it too and the link I posted about the paedophile conviction was from the irish independent.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 98 ✭✭PraxisPete


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    So you say...but if you google "irish antifa paedophile" you get more than one entry...reddit is covering it too and the link I posted about the paedophile conviction was from the irish independent.

    There was a lad convicted of being a paedophile. There is nameless websites linking him with AFA. Do you think it's a real thing or something somebody made up? Probably you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    The links to the Extreme left/antifa and sexual crimes seem to be endless. Dont forget all of these reports of sexual abuse in these European Migrant Centres.

    Also during the attack on Pegida in Dublin you can see lots of people with Bohemians scarves. Antifa and football hooliganism go hand in hand but what is interesting about the links to Bohemians is that they have a convicted gang rapist at the club of an underage girl.

    His signing was met with very little protest and I **** you not, they actually chant "he's one of our own" about the guy playing for them.

    A lot of the sex offenders have massive control issues, they struggle to keep relationships with people because they need to control people. This goes hand in hand with leftism.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    I don't read stormfront..but if reading it is being used as an insult by antifa in some way i might well start.

    And the days of shutting down discourse by shouting "racist" or "Nazi" or "facist" are long over..you might need to rethink your strategy when defending convicted peadophiles too.

    That story about antifa and kids is fake. The author admitted he was tricked and apologised for it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 98 ✭✭PraxisPete


    The links to the Extreme left/antifa and sexual crimes seem to be endless. Dont forget all of these reports of sexual abuse in these European Migrant Centres.

    Also during the attack on Pegida in Dublin you can see lots of people with Bohemians scarves. Antifa and football hooliganism go hand in hand but what is interesting about the links to Bohemians is that they have a convicted gang rapist at the club of an underage girl.

    His signing was met with very little protest and I **** you not, they actually chant "he's one of our own" about the guy playing for them.

    A lot of the sex offenders have massive control issues, they struggle to keep relationships with people because they need to control people. This goes hand in hand with leftism.

    If you believe all that you have something wrong with you.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    PraxisPete wrote: »
    There was a lad convicted of being a paedophile. There is nameless websites linking him with AFA. Do you think it's a real thing or something somebody made up? Probably you.


    I don't care particularly where the story originated.

    I find it interesting that antifa and other anarchist groups like to sing the praises of Islam despite the "prophet" himself marrying a six-year old girl.

    "The coward feeds the crocodile, hoping it will eat him last"
    Winston Churchill.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    PraxisPete wrote: »
    If you believe all that you have something wrong with you.


    What's not true?
    Volunteers committing sex crimes in migrant camps?
    Bohemians being involved with the extreme left?
    Bohemians having a gang rapist playing for them?
    Bohemians fans singing he's one of their own?


  • Registered Users Posts: 98 ✭✭PraxisPete


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    I don't care particularly where the story originated.

    I find it interesting that antifa and other anarchist groups like to sing the praises of Islam despite the "prophet" himself marrying a six-year old girl.

    "The coward feeds the crocodile, hoping it will eat him last"
    Winston Churchill.

    It's a made up story. I could make up a story about you having an avid interest in timepieces. It wouldn't make it true though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    PraxisPete wrote: »
    It's a made up story. I could make up a story about you having an avid interest in timepieces. It wouldn't make it true though.

    I do have an avid interest in timepieces as it happens...whats it got to do with paedophiles in the "anti facist" ranks though?


    Let me ask you a question...why do antifa wear masks when they're out doing thier thing?


  • Registered Users Posts: 98 ✭✭PraxisPete


    What's not true?
    Volunteers committing sex crimes in migrant camps?
    Bohemians being involved with the extreme left?
    Bohemians having a gang rapist playing for them?
    Bohemians fans singing he's one of their own?

    It's true in the same way that you're a dog because you're an animal. It's demented reasoning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,186 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    wes wrote: »
    Right Wing views? Is that the euphemism for Neo Nazi these days? Spenser is a Neo Nazi, he is right wing in the same way that a Stalinist is left wing, in that they have lost the plot completely.

    Fine he is a neo nazi.
    I have to say I didn't know much about him until now.
    And taken your pedantry onboard, I will now say he has far right views and what I would normally have termed a neo nazi.

    I also have to say the lines are now so blurred by dipshytes screaming facists, nazi at anyone that doesn't agree with their views, that the actual nazi, fascist label is becoming lost.

    A nazi to me is someone who would condone the likes of Nazi Germany and Hitler, blatter on incestantly about Jewish conspiracies, and would be a white supremacist like the above guy.
    wes wrote: »
    As for the violence against him, it is of course wrong, but doesn't compare to his fellow Neo Nazi's walking into a Church, Mosque or a Gurdwara, and buthering people. The level of violence carried out by Neo Nazi's like Spenser is in order of magnitude worse, than anything done to them.

    I have about as much sympathy for a Neo Nazi like Spenser, as I do for someone like Anjem Choudary, that is to say 0 sympathy.

    But the thing is a lot more people do have sympathy for the latter.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users Posts: 98 ✭✭PraxisPete


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    I do have an avid interest in timepieces as it happens...whats it got to do with paedophiles in the "anti facist" ranks though?


    Let me ask you a question...why do antifa wear masks when they're out doing thier thing?

    For the same reason you and I don't have our full names here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    jmayo wrote: »
    And taken your pedantry onboard, I will now say he has far right views and what I would normally have termed a neo nazi.

    Hardly being a pedant. World of difference between, lets say wanting smaller government on the one hand, and wanting concentration camps on the other. I taught the difference was worth pointing out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    The story behind the fake interview allegedly with Irish Antifa. Some of the false stories posted in this thread stem from it.

    https://t.co/eD0VllRTa4


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    PraxisPete wrote: »
    For the same reason you and I don't have our full names here.

    No.

    It's because they are cowards. They are cowards who can only feel tough whilst hunting in a pack and with their faces covered.

    It's quite amusing to see them flee like rats when they dont outnumber thier victims 100-1.




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    20Cent wrote: »
    The story behind the fake interview allegedly with Irish Antifa. Some of the false stories posted in this thread stem from it.

    https://t.co/eD0VllRTa4

    Funnily enough I mentioned it already all the way back in post 21 as a fake story being used to discredit antifa


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