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Antifa.....the joke that keeps on giving

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    #212
    wes
    Registered Users Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    red ears wrote: »
    Spencer likes to be known as an identitarian, he is not a neo nazi.

    Yes, he is. Identitarian is just another word for white supremacist. A pretty tranparent attempt at rebanding. Astonishing to see people making excuses for Neo Nazi's. Oh wait, not astonishing at all :rolleyes:.


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    #213
    MysticMonk
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    wes wrote: »
    Yes, he is. Identitarian is just another word for white supremacist. A pretty tranparent attempt at rebanding. Astonishing to see people making excuses for Neo Nazi's. Oh wait, not astonishing at all :rolleyes:.


    Another thing the far-left like to do is shower people with labels such as Nazi and Supremacist.

    Generally these labels drip out of them without an actual reasoning behind them.

    In fact Milo Yiannopoulos was recently called something similar by an interviewer despite being a jewish homosexual who favours black boyfriends.


    edit..here it is:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5C6vQa6Lvw


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    #214
    wes
    Registered Users Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    MysticMonk wrote: »
    Another thing the far-left like to do is shower people with labels such as Nazi and Supremacist.

    Generally these labels drip out of them without an actual reasoning behind them.

    And something the far right Nazi's like to do is pretend there not racists, while being incredibly racist.

    Idententrian is just another word for white supremacist:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identitarian_movement


    --SNIP--
    According to Christoph Gurk one of the goals of the Identitarians is to make racism modern and fashionable[5] and they have close connections to Hungarian and Polish Neo-Nazis, according to Anna Thalhammer.[6] There has also been Identitarian collaboration with the white nationalist activist Tomislav Sunić.[7]
    --SNIP--

    So make racism "fashionable", and links with Neo Nazi's. No not Nazi's at all :rolleyes:. Still its good to see people expose there sympathies towards fascism.
    MysticMonk wrote: »
    In fact Milo Yiannopoulos was recently called something similar by an interviewer despite being a jewish homosexual who favours black boyfriends.

    The same Milo who was fired from Breit Bart after his comments on pedophilia. The same Milo who was banned from Twitter after inciting a racist hate campaign against actress Leslie Jones.

    Still the fact remains, there is video of Richard Spenser (the guy I was talking about, and not disgraced "journalist" Milo), doing a Nazi salute and shouting "Heil Trump":



    I don't see how much more of a Nazi Richard Spenser could be, but you seemingly deny the obvious.


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    #215
    MysticMonk
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    wes wrote: »
    And something the far right Nazi's like to do is pretend there not racists, while being incredibly racist.

    Idententrian is just another word for white supremacist:



    So make racism "fashionable", and links with Neo Nazi's. No not Nazi's at all :rolleyes:. Still its good to see people expose there sympathies towards fascism.



    The same Milo who was fired from Breit Bart after his comments on pedophilia. The same Milo who was banned from Twitter after inciting a racist hate campaign against actress Leslie Jones.

    Still the fact remains, there is video of Richard Spenser (the guy I was talking about, and not disgraced "journalist" Milo), doing a Nazi salute and shouting "Heil Trump":



    I don't see how much more of a Nazi Richard Spenser could be, but you seemingly deny the obvious.

    You posted wikipedia.

    Allow me to do likewise:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

    Nazi Germany is the common English name for the period in German history from 1933 to 1945, when Germany was governed by a dictatorship under the control of Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party (NSDAP).


    So this guy is a lot older than he looks if he was allied to German National Socialism back in the 40s!


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    #216
    Depp
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    [QUOTE=wes;103211463The same Milo who was fired from Breit Bart after his comments on pedophilia. The same Milo who was banned from Twitter after inciting a racist hate campaign against actress Leslie Jones.[/QUOTE]

    Look, not a fan of richard spencer by any means, but on milo you're telling some falsies here, first of all the pedophilia debacle was a witchhunt and while what he said was definitely wrong, to most it just came off as a man trying to rationalize being abused as a child. Also the twitter thing is a lie and its well documented at this stage, the worst he had posted was a bad review of the film she was in and reply to abusive tweets from her. Hardly inciting a hate mob by any definition was it?


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    #217
    MysticMonk
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    Depp wrote: »
    Look, not a fan of richard spencer by any means, but on milo you're telling some falsies here, first of all the pedophilia debacle was a witchhunt and while what he said was definitely wrong, to most it just came off as a man trying to rationalize being abused as a child. Also the twitter thing is a lie and its well documented at this stage, the worst he had posted was a bad review of the film she was in and reply to abusive tweets from her. Hardly inciting a hate mob by any definition was it?


    And of course she was the one to play the race-card at the drop of a hat.

    He said the New Ghostbusters was a laod of crap and she replied with:
    Some people on here are ****ing disgusting. I'm blocking your filthy ass if retweet that perverted ****. Just know that now bitches!!


    So an understated reply from a professional actress or a typically over the top rant from an angry black woman?


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    #218
    wes
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    MysticMonk wrote: »
    So this guy is a lot older than he looks if he was allied to German National Socialism back in the 40s!

    Yeah, he is a Neo Nazi...... Not an actual member of the Nazi party :rolleyes:. Still, the how "Heil Trump" thing, is a pretty straight forward example of him being a Neo Nazi. If the best you can do is argue semantics to defend the guy, then your in trouble.


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    #219
    wes
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    Depp wrote: »
    Look, not a fan of richard spencer by any means, but on milo you're telling some falsies here, first of all the pedophilia debacle was a witchhunt and while what he said was definitely wrong, to most it just came off as a man trying to rationalize being abused as a child. Also the twitter thing is a lie and its well documented at this stage, the worst he had posted was a bad review of the film she was in and reply to abusive tweets from her. Hardly inciting a hate mob by any definition was it?

    Honestly, I don't really care about Milo either way. I honestly don't think he believes half the stuff he says, and he is just courting controversy. I would think Twitter would be very careful about banning someone famous like Milo was, so maybe what your saying is true, and it was more his fans acting on there own.


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    #220
    20Cent
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    Milo should name the person who raped him as a child. He could have done the same to many victims. He should also name the people who organised and attended the pedo parties he went to. Cops should be interviewing him.


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    #221
    Depp
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    wes wrote: »
    Honestly, I don't really care about Milo either way. I honestly don't think he believes half the stuff he says, and he is just courting controversy. I would think Twitter would be very careful about banning someone famous like Milo was, so maybe what your saying is true, and it was more his fans acting on there own.

    definitely agree, he does add stuff in to sensationalize. Don't get me wrong there was some disgusting stuff said to leslie on twitter but not from milo, banning milo because some of the abuse came from accounts that followed him was a terrible call on twitters behalf
    20Cent wrote: »
    Milo should name the person who raped him as a child. He could have done the same to many victims. He should also name the people who organised and attended the pedo parties he went to. Cops should be interviewing him.

    agree with this also but who are you or I to force him to if he doesn't want to.


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    #222
    MysticMonk
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    wes wrote: »
    Yeah, he is a Neo Nazi...... Not an actual member of the Nazi party :rolleyes:. Still, the how "Heil Trump" thing, is a pretty straight forward example of him being a Neo Nazi. If the best you can do is argue semantics to defend the guy, then your in trouble.


    If he wants to be a "Neo Nazi" then so be it..he has the right under the 1st ammendment to be whatever he wants.


    THIS is the nature of democracy and not a dictatorship..if he wants to say "Heil Trump" then he has the right to say it.

    According to you,because you don't fully understand the nature of democracy,he should be censured in some way for excercising his rights to freedom of speech under the US 1st amendment?

    So you believe,in effect that the freedom of speech and the freedom to peacefully assemble should only apply to people whose political viewpoint YOU agree with?


    Not only is it pitifully short-sighted,it's pitifully ironic :D


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    #223
    MysticMonk
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    wes wrote: »
    The same Milo who was banned from Twitter after inciting a racist hate campaign against actress Leslie Jones.

    .

    The same Milo who likes black men as his boyfriends is being racist against a black woman?


    Can't you see how bloody stupid that sounds?


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    #224
    20Cent
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    MysticMonk wrote: »
    The same Milo who likes black men as his boyfriends is being racist against a black woman?


    Can't you see how bloody stupid that sounds?

    He sees black men as sex objects. Just like the slave owners of old he uses them to plough his field.


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    #225
    MysticMonk
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    20Cent wrote: »
    He sees black men as sex objects. Just like the slave owners of old he uses them to plough his field.

    That says an afull lot about your attitudes to gay men AND to black people.

    Typical left-wing hypocrisy really.


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    #226
    20Cent
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    MysticMonk wrote: »
    That says an afull lot about your attitudes to gay men AND to black people.

    Typical left-wing hypocrisy really.

    The protecting and justifying pedophelia would have turned most people off him. The racism and white supremacy is also clear. Has black friends is what racists always say.


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    #227
    MysticMonk
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    20Cent wrote: »
    The protecting and justifying pedophelia would have turned most people off him. The racism and white supremacy is also clear. Has black friends is what racists always say.

    Since when did white supremacists welcome homosexual Jews who like to date black men?


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    #228
    Help!!!!
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    20Cent wrote: »
    He sees black men as sex objects. Just like the slave owners of old he uses them to plough his field.

    You do understand that it was black people who sold the black slaves to the Europeans?


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    #229
    Help!!!!
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    20Cent wrote: »
    The protecting and justifying pedophelia would have turned most people off him. The racism and white supremacy is also clear. Has black friends is what racists always say.

    Do you not have any non white friends?


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    #230
    MysticMonk
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    You do understand that it was black people who sold the black slaves to the Europeans?

    Or that slavery was flourishing round the Barbary coast hundreds of years before


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    #231
    MysticMonk
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    Do you not have any non white friends?


    A few pinks and a bunch of yellows i would say :)


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    #232
    Help!!!!
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    MysticMonk wrote: »
    A few pinks and a bunch of yellows i would say :)

    Yeah its funny that its only racists that say they have "black" mates :rolleyes:


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    #233
    Irish Praetorian
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    MysticMonk wrote: »
    Or that slavery was flourishing round the Barbary coast hundreds of years before

    Think a little longer, like perhaps even pre-dating literacy. I've no time for people who think the African slave trade was some kind of benevolent uplifting, but nor have I time for people who think it marked the beginning and end of forced labour in the world.


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    #234
    MysticMonk
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 903 ✭✭✭MysticMonk


    Irish Praetorian wrote: »
    Think a little longer, like perhaps even pre-dating literacy. I've no time for people who think the African slave trade was some kind of benevolent uplifting, but nor have I time for people who think it marked the beginning and end of forced labour in the world.

    Of course! I quite forgot about the Egyptians,the Romans,the Persians and probably the Celts.


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    #235
    20Cent
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    Antifascists fighting ISIS. Milo, Shapiro and Paul Watson not attending.
    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/american-anarchists-ypg-kurdish-militia-syria-isis-islamic-state-w466069

    @AntifaTabur

    Meanwhile
    British brexiters fighting in Madrid against dark skinned waiters.


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    #236
    Will I Am Not
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    20Cent wrote: »
    Antifascists fighting ISIS.

    Antifa or just anti-fascist?


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    #237
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    20Cent wrote: »
    Antifascists fighting ISIS. Milo, Shapiro and Paul Watson not attending.
    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/american-anarchists-ypg-kurdish-militia-syria-isis-islamic-state-w466069

    .

    Seems like they are just communists with mental health issues and would be fighting with the Kurds no matter who they faced.


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    #238
    b_mac2
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    20Cent wrote: »
    Antifascists fighting ISIS. .

    Lads with no military experience whatsoever, going off to fight a battle hardened enemy?
    Idiots with a death wish who have played too much Call Of Duty, they wouldn't know the first thing to do if they came in to contact... except shìt themselves obviously.


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    #239
    20Cent
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    Interesting juxtaposition between the alt right and antifa reaction to ISIS. Alt right turn on innocent Muslims the easiest no risk target. Antifa head over to fight them taking back town's the hardest target.


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    #240
    wes
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    MysticMonk wrote: »
    If he wants to be a "Neo Nazi" then so be it..he has the right under the 1st ammendment to be whatever he wants.


    THIS is the nature of democracy and not a dictatorship..if he wants to say "Heil Trump" then he has the right to say it.

    According to you,because you don't fully understand the nature of democracy,he should be censured in some way for excercising his rights to freedom of speech under the US 1st amendment?

    So you believe,in effect that the freedom of speech and the freedom to peacefully assemble should only apply to people whose political viewpoint YOU agree with?


    Not only is it pitifully short-sighted,it's pitifully ironic :D

    Your talking utter nonsense. I never said anything you are claiming I said. Your just making stuff up. Again, I took issue with you claiming he wasn't a Neo Nazi, and nothing more. You lost that arguement and have now decided to make something up to argue against instead.

    Quite frankly it rather pathetic, and typical of those who can't argue there point to pull the kind of crap you just pulled. Your the one who tried to pretend the Neo Nazi wasn't a Neo Nazi, and then tried to pretend that an explicitly racist movement wasn't racist. Its that kind of stuff that make the right look bad, and then you compound that crap, by straight forward inventing stuff and claiming I said it :rolleyes:.


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    #241
    Hande hoche!
    Registered Users Posts: 7,523 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    20Cent wrote: »
    Antifascists fighting ISIS. Milo, Shapiro and Paul Watson not attending.
    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/american-anarchists-ypg-kurdish-militia-syria-isis-islamic-state-w466069

    @AntifaTabur

    Meanwhile
    British brexiters fighting in Madrid against dark skinned waiters.

    You also have Dutch and German bikers fighting Islamic state. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


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