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Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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    #5342
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,492 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Needs to be level three minus a bit especially in relation to travel

    If you mean international travel over Christmas and New year, then hopefully not.
    Mass movement of people is not something we'd need at that point.


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    #5343
    niallo27
    Registered Users Posts: 16,010 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Stheno wrote: »
    What of people coming home for Christmas? Imagine a mass influx from the UK now?

    Not if the pubs are open over there and not here.


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    #5344
    bb1234567
    Registered Users Posts: 5,495 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    mcburns07 wrote: »
    We're a great bunch of lads aren't we!

    The actual reality of the situation is other countries don't want to impose the level of restrictions we have for various reasons (for now).

    Obviously..it'll turn out to be a mistake though because of the earlier reluctance and delay to do what we did. Belgium and France are well on their way to experiencing a second wave as bad as their first


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    #5345
    Eod100
    Registered Users Posts: 11,656 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Stheno wrote: »
    What of people coming home for Christmas? Imagine a mass influx from the UK now?

    Guess it could be same it always was for travel all along, only for essential reasons. If there's checkpoints stopping people from going to different counties while people can fly back don't think people would be too happy. But either restrictions will only work if there's massive enforcement.


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    #5346
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Obviously..it'll turn out to be a mistake though because of the earlier reluctance and delay to do what we did. Belgium and France are well on their way to experiencing a second wave as bad as their first

    Both are already worse than the first wave

    Belgium cannot even test all those with symptoms


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    #5347
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users Posts: 5,448 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Goldrickssan wrote: »
    The world will implode if these vaccines turn out to be complete ass

    Wouldn't put it quite like that but I understand its been confirmed these vaccines are nothing like what people expect them to be. They wont give you immunity. They will not stop you getting it. And they will not stop you spreading it.

    It does not sound at all like the are going to give people their lives back. Protect the vulnerable/health-system will go on regardless. And all the implications that come with it. Distancing, masks, forget concerts matches bars and clubs.


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    #5348
    Goldrickssan
    Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭Goldrickssan


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    Especially since its been confirmed that the vaccines are nothing like what people expect them to be. They wont give you immunity. They will not stop you getting it. And they will not stop you spreading it.

    It does not sound at all like the are going to give people their lives back. Protect the vulnerable/health-system will go on regardless. And all the implications that come with it. Distancing, masks, forget concerts matches bars and clubs.

    Wait, so what will these vaccines do? Give you a second arse?


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    #5349
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Goldrickssan wrote: »
    Wait, so what will these vaccines do? Give you a second arse?

    We barely have enough toilet roll as it is.


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    #5350
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Goldrickssan wrote: »
    Wait, so what will these vaccines do? Give you a second arse?

    The first ones may only reduce the severity of the infection

    However that is speculation until trial results are released


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    #5351
    Goldrickssan
    Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭Goldrickssan


    Stheno wrote: »
    The first ones may only reduce the severity of the infection

    However that is speculation until trial results are released

    Well that sounds like a treatment not a vaccine? Find that hard to believe!


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    #5352
    440Hertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭440Hertz


    Just remember there are over 134 vaccines in development and this virus is proving to be less unstable than people had feared. There's some degree of RNA checking going on in it, so it's less unstable than say influenza, which means ew might have good shot at a successful vaccine (or more likely several vaccines).

    It's not all doom and gloom, but I wouldn't pin all my hopes on it either, particularly as it will be a gargantuan task to get any vaccine rolled out. So you're talking probably most of 2021.


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    #5353
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 9,937 ✭✭✭normanoffside


    Stheno wrote: »
    What of people coming home for Christmas? Imagine a mass influx from the UK now?

    Very simple. Make sure they get tested before they fly or give them an option to get tested on arrival.
    Otherwise they must restrict their movements on arrival and if not this can be punished with fines (like Germany).

    There are so many private companies now offering private tests for travel clearance certificates (Which most EU countries require from travellers from Ireland) that it would be incredibly easy to implement this system.

    Travellers would happily pay the costs of tests and government has literally nothing to lose.


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    #5354
    Spiderman0081
    Registered Users Posts: 408 ✭✭Spiderman0081


    Goldrickssan wrote: »
    Well that sounds like a treatment not a vaccine? Find that hard to believe!
    I find it very, very believable.


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    #5355
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Stheno wrote: »
    What of people coming home for Christmas? Imagine a mass influx from the UK now?

    That will come

    One famous town in Limerick is bound to be full


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    #5356
    UrbanFret
    Registered Users Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭UrbanFret


    Stheno wrote: »
    The first ones may only reduce the severity of the infection

    However that is speculation until trial results are released


    With all due respect that is nonsense.


    David Eltringham, managing director at George Eliot Hospital NHS Trust, said there is no definite date for the vaccine yet, but there are plans to deploy it from the beginning of December.
    But the optimistic memo will raise hopes that a vaccine with the potential to free Britain from local lockdowns, socialising and face masks could be close.
    It comes as a coronavirus vaccine developed at Oxford University is 'doing everything expected' and provokes strong immunity to the virus, according to a study.


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    #5357
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users Posts: 5,448 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Goldrickssan wrote: »
    Well that sounds like a treatment not a vaccine? Find that hard to believe!

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1022/1173108-covid-19-vaccine-effectiveness/

    It is speculation like someone else said but its a possibility.


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    #5358
    MOR316
    Registered Users Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭MOR316


    They would have to allow travel between counties during Christmas. It would be absolutely farcical if they didn't and would truly ruin a lot of families' Christmas

    What does Teflon Holohan say? Any of his devout followers any clue?


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    #5359
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 9,937 ✭✭✭normanoffside


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    That will come

    One famous town in Limerick is bound to be full

    I can't imagine the hassle around asking them for their travel clearance certificates :rolleyes:


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    #5360
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    If you mean international travel over Christmas and New year, then hopefully not.
    Mass movement of people is not something we'd need at that point.

    Wasn't particularly thinking of international travel

    Taking level three into account and running up to 1st of December that's 55 days that you can't travel outside your county

    40 days of 5km only

    55 days minimum of not seeing friends, family and partners if they live in another county

    I can really see peoples patented wearing thin and mass non compliance if the government don't allow travel before Christmas time


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    #5361
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 9,937 ✭✭✭normanoffside


    MOR316 wrote: »
    They would have to allow travel between counties during Christmas. It would be absolutely farcical if they didn't and would truly ruin a lot of families' Christmas

    What does Teflon Holohan say? Any of his devout followers any clue?

    Teflon Tony strongly advises against unnecessary travel and says we should only go outside for exercise within 5km from home.


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    #5362
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    normanoffside wrote: »
    I can't imagine the hassle around asking them for their travel clearance certificates :rolleyes:

    I can't totally see them doing the 14 day self isolation lol


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    #5363
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 9,937 ✭✭✭normanoffside


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    I can't totally see them doing the 14 day self isolation lol

    It's restricted movements for people coming from abroad.


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    #5364
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    MOR316 wrote: »
    They would have to allow travel between counties during Christmas. It would be absolutely farcical if they didn't and would truly ruin a lot of families' Christmas

    What does Teflon Holohan say? Any of his devout followers any clue?

    I think people are going to hit the road anyway no matter what Teflon Holohan says


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    #5365
    Roger_007
    Registered Users Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    Stheno wrote: »
    The first ones may only reduce the severity of the infection

    However that is speculation until trial results are released

    Most people expect a much hyped vaccine to more or less guarantee 100% protection against infection. If it transpires that the vaccines which come on stream do not really protect against infection, then the uptake will be very poor. Why would anyone in good health risk being vaccinated with a new, and poorly tested, vaccine against what is mild infection in most cases.
    There is no way that any vaccine currently in development can have been tested for long term effects.


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    #5366
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    normanoffside wrote: »
    It's restricted movements for people coming from abroad.

    That too

    That will totally happen


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    #5367
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users Posts: 16,092 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    The 5 km for exercise caused mayhem today around where I live
    There are four parks within 5 kms and we tried them all but had to leave due to crowds
    We usually drive out to a near empty beach and walk without coming within 10 metres of anyone but couldn’t do it as its out of bounds
    So home we had to come and walk where there is traffic and houses


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    #5368
    [Deleted User]
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    normanoffside wrote: »
    Teflon Tony strongly advises against unnecessary travel and says we should only go outside for exercise within 5km from home.

    Yeh, Teflon Tony lives in a dreamworld.


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    #5369
    manniot2
    Registered Users Posts: 706 ✭✭✭manniot2


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yeh, Teflon Tony lives in a dreamworld.

    I wonder how much is Tony using this pandemic to gain as much credit with the public as possible in advance of the cervical tribunal?


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    #5370
    MOR316
    Registered Users Posts: 2,206 ✭✭✭MOR316


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    I think people are going to hit the road anyway no matter what Teflon Holohan says

    And I'll be one of them!

    Fame hungry prick, he's like Jafar from Aladdin. How many more times is he going to appear on the Late Late? Does he want his own talk show?

    Restrictions, virus etc all aside, I genuinely cannot stand him!


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    #5371
    manniot2
    Registered Users Posts: 706 ✭✭✭manniot2


    https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/martin-feeley-hospital-admissions-don-t-justify-pressing-the-panic-button-1.4390870


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