Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

Goldengirl wrote: »

Just been off this week in the sunshine meeting friends and family down the country that I have not seen since January 2020! It has been emotional to say the least
With more of our age fully or partially vaxxed now and all the opportunities in the good weather to meet everyone outside as well, it finally feels like we have broken this, and here's hoping everyone can get their jabs, have a lovely summer and that nothing else interferes with our opening up.
Enjoy the beautiful weekend!

You deserved that!

For those freaked out by the whole delta thing it's not going anywhere here. Up 10 cases in May to 126.


https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0611/1227522-coronavirus-ireland/

Turtwig wrote: »

Cumbersome Pain that it is, it does look like MHQ has its uses. Maybe I'm making a false attribute here. Regardless so far we've kept all variants in check. Hopefully we can keep it that way and keep up our progression in vaccination and relaxation.
(Assuming our detection capability is up to scratch.)

With cases so low testers are buzzing like flies around the proverbial. Big fan of popups myself and reckon they have made a difference.

is_that_so wrote: »

For those freaked out by the whole delta thing it's not going anywhere here. Up 10 cases in May to 126.


https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0611/1227522-coronavirus-ireland/

Hopefully we keep that low until enough people are vaccinated that it's an academic issue.

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

It’s hard not to feel like they are taking the biscuit here now with this nonsense. You learn absolutely nothing from what they’ve done there.


https://twitter.com/tommy20times/status/1403283350928887809?s=21

https://twitter.com/fremansolutions/status/1376165323456528387?s=21

Meanwhile, in America. Full arena, no tests, no masks (unless you want to)

https://twitter.com/GoldenKnights/status/1403200260634206210

eagle eye wrote: »

A few names starting to pop up now in my locality who are not going to take the vaccine. Idiots the lot of them, nobody yet that really surprises me.

I was talking to a 80+ year old the other day. No way was he putting that stuff in his arm. His wife died a few months ago of Covid. I just sighed and changed the subject.

Delighted to see hospitals free of Covid patients today. The vaccination programme is making a huge difference.

Does anyone know on this thread if the U.K. are mass testing those vaccinated and asymptomatic which the count in their case numbers as well as those who are symptomatic? Their low hospitalisation & death rate makes me wonder what the true picture is over there as June 21 approaches.

https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1403277721837387778

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Kingston Mills, Professor of Immunology at Trinity College Dublin, today:

“The AstraZeneca vaccine is not as good as the mRNA vaccines, you know, around 60 per cent effective compared with 88 [per cent] for the Pfizer [vaccine] against the Delta variant, even with two doses,” he said.

“So that is a significant concern for those who have been vaccinated with the AstraZenenca vaccine if the Delta variant gets a hold here in Ireland, like it has in the UK.”


A lot of people on here have said that it shouldn't matter what vaccine you've got. But with statements like this, (perhaps debatable), have views changed? I have friends in their 60s, and they are all concerned about the risks and begrudging Pfizer recipients at this stage!

For HCW, it remains an issue too presumably, and whether a mix/match approach would be more suitable?

1% of our cases are Delta vs ~92% in the UK (incidence rate per 100k of cases are similar)
We have approx ~30% people doses with AZ (hard to know without updated figures) vs 62% in the UK.
Also worth mentioning UK have 43% fully vaccinated vs our ~20%
I'm sure someone good with math can work that all out!

If a variant came along that AZ proved better than mRNA vaccines, would the same people begrudge those who got an mRNA jab? Those who got any kinda vaccine are more protected than those waiting for a first jab!

In relation to efficiency, our dominant strain is Alpha, both AZ & mRNA are equally matched there. When people people start worrying their vaccine may not be effective vs a strain which ATM makes up 1% of our cases..... I don't know what to think. If they had a vaccine 100% effective vs Delta but 60% vs Alpha, would they feel better?

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

So glad not to be stuck on a sinking ship looking for space on a liferaft with the people I share this country with looking for the vaccine, lots of selfish scotes/srotesses skipping the q. Some would have their golf clubs and shoes in the space of people they could have saved.

Agree. I was told by a family member in the health professions to lobby/hassle my Gp to get prioritised
(Am borderline group 7 on BMI). I know they had my personal welfare at heart. But as I see it, if I’m pushed ahead someone else is pushed behind.

As it is, I got my first dose a few short weeks after I would’ve had if I kicked up a fuss. The whole process will be more efficient / equitable if we just take things as they come.

tom1ie wrote: »

But did we have not have something similar with the Kent variant and then that became dominant in Ireland so we can expect the Indian variant to become dominant here?

Apparently the newly released E Variant is where it's at now, it's spread through electricity but is still dead with the vaccine. :pac:

We’re gonna be ‘varianting’ (new word I created) the sh1t out of this pain in the ass virus for another 20 years at this rate. The situation will always be “we don’t have enough data yet to see how this new variant plays out” till another one comes along and rinse and repeat. Like a horse constantly jumping hurdles, the hurdles won’t bring the horse down but the exhaustion will.

Good to see this articulated and it is something that employers will need to address in advance of people returning to work.

Staff will be able to return to the workplace even if they refuse the Covid vaccine – and won’t have to tell their employer or colleagues whether they’ve received the jab, according to legal experts.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/staff-who-refuse-the-covid-jab-cannot-bekept-out-of-workplace-40529717.html

podgeandrodge wrote: »

A lot of people on here have said that it shouldn't matter what vaccine you've got. But with statements like this, (perhaps debatable), have views changed? I have friends in their 60s, and they are all concerned about the risks and begrudging Pfizer recipients at this stage!

For HCW, it remains an issue too presumably, and whether a mix/match approach would be more suitable?

I believe there are cases of delta amount vaccinated people but the vaccine seems to offer partial protection and a 99% protection against serious disease whatever vaccine you received.

Who cares about coronavirus (except re spreading it) if you are vaccinated and only get a cold.

VinLieger wrote: »

Hmm I don't see how this works if schools and creches are allowed ask and stop children attending if they aren't vaccinated?

Employee discrimination is the issue. I don't know what rules they use but measles has an R0 of 16 and we need about 95% for herd immunity.

EDIT: Childcare facilities have a legal requirement to maintain immunisation records on all children attending so need to know who is and who is not vaccinated.