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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


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    Ignored threadban


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    TheDoctor wrote: »
    Funnily enough last year we went from 105 to 75 cases in hospital on June 10th.
    Great date for a drop in numbers.

    59 is some number.

    Remember when it was north of 2,000 in Jan

    Still can’t get over the rate it’s dropping has kept up, really expected it to slow with smaller numbers. Obviously people do longer stints in ICU so that number drops slower, but we’re not far off ICU being more than general hospital inpatients. Add in the news of St James today and it’s very very positive.


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    Still can’t get over the rate it’s dropping has kept up, really expected it to slow with smaller numbers. Obviously people do longer stints in ICU so that number drops slower, but we’re not far off ICU being more than general hospital inpatients. Add in the news of St James today and it’s very very positive.

    it would want to be based on the "efficaciousness" claims coming from Luke O'Neil. so it seems all is well OR the vaccines are not nearly as good, in which case what's the point of it all??

    Either way, we have to face some hard truths..it's all at an end..or the Vaccines are a croc.

    take your pic anyone, the former will upset RTE anyway..

    Back to melting ice caps and Gretta thundra reports for poor oul Faux science correspondent George lee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    Ficheall wrote: »
    You couldn't show the auld calculations there, could ya?

    With 113,064 hospital admissions in the UK in January if you take the June average so far (1st to 6th is available on gov.uk) of a 2.85% hospitalisation rate to cases it equals 3.9 million new cases needed to get to that January number of hospital admissions.

    Over a month that’s about 130,000 cases per day, the daily average in January was about 43,000.

    I don’t see why that rate would increase now, it’s been on a downtrend since January, which makes sense because the older are vaccinated and the younger generally don’t need hospital care when they get the virus.

    If that rate starts to increase then obviously it is concerning, but there are plenty of cases now and it hasn’t increased so signs are very promising. It looks like the hospitals are safe and the “freedom day” can go ahead, people can do their own risk assessment, they can sit in their home until they get both doses or they can choose not to because it shouldn’t effect the hospitals.

    They’ll probably leave the decision until end of next week to see where that rate is at. If it’s still hovering around 2-3% all systems are go I would think.

    Edit: just seen the announcement is Monday

    All figures https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


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    eagle eye wrote: »
    The amount of haters of an honest man doing his job is unreal.
    And all of this while his wife suffered and died from cancer. It's only been four months since she passed away.

    Imagine thinking that a man tending to his ill wife when he's not working has hidden agendas. Just unreal how crazy so many have become.
    Honest man? Short memories anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    With 113,064 hospital admissions in the UK in January if you take the June average so far (1st to 6th is available on gov.uk) of a 2.85% hospitalisation rate to cases it equals 3.9 million new cases needed to get to that January number of hospital admissions.

    Over a month that’s about 130,000 cases per day, the daily average in January was about 43,000.

    I don’t see why that rate would increase now, it’s been on a downtrend since January, which makes sense because the older are vaccinated and the younger generally don’t need hospital care when they get the virus.

    If that rate starts to increase then obviously it is concerning, but there are plenty of cases now and it hasn’t increased so signs are very promising. It looks like the hospitals are safe and the “freedom day” can go ahead, people can do their own risk assessment, they can sit in their home until they get both doses or they can choose not to because it shouldn’t effect the hospitals.

    They’ll probably leave the decision until end of next week to see where that rate is at. If it’s still hovering around 2-3% all systems are go I would think.

    Edit: just seen the announcement is Monday

    All figures https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


    Ah, sorry - thought you were talking about Ireland. Thanks for taking the time anyway!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,823 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    rusty cole wrote:
    Bull****, he's highly influential and you know it. He's akin to the only qualified driver on a bus carrying a peoples on roads, only he can navigate and anticipate, in a land where he's designated as the only man who speaks the language.


    It sounds like you would prefer the bus driver was blind and had no licence but kept the passengers cheered up with a sing song .

    I know which bus I'd take.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,938 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    First Up wrote: »
    It sounds like you would prefer the bus driver was blind and had no licence but kept the passengers cheered up with a sing song .

    I know which bus I'd take.

    I just want the ****er to stop and let us off the bus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 997 ✭✭✭Stormyteacup


    First Up wrote: »
    It sounds like you would prefer the bus driver was blind and had no licence but kept the passengers cheered up with a sing song .

    I know which bus I'd take.

    If those were the only options you’d be making the right choice.

    I’d like an option where the bus driver is qualified but just drives the bus to a destination and schedule not mostly decided by him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,823 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    I’d like an option where the bus driver is qualified but just drives the bus to a destination and schedule not mostly decided by him.


    We all want to get to the destination but the schedule (and route) is decided by the virus. People blocking the road by acting the eejit just causes delays and detours.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,150 ✭✭✭✭Eod100




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭crossman47


    Maybe Holohan is right https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/543484341/stop-using-innova-sars-cov-2-antigen-rapid-qualitative-test-fda-safety-communication.

    A Dáil committee took advice this week from "an international authority on antigen testing" Dr Michael Mina. He disputed CMO's view. Within 24 hours of his testimony FDA issued a warning letter about this device!


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    crossman47 wrote: »
    Maybe Holohan is right https://www.einnews.com/pr_news/543484341/stop-using-innova-sars-cov-2-antigen-rapid-qualitative-test-fda-safety-communication.

    A Dáil committee took advice this week from "an international authority on antigen testing" Dr Michael Mina. He disputed CMO's view. Within 24 hours of his testimony FDA issued a warning letter about this device!

    That's one test that is not even FDA approved?

    There are many different versions of these tests that are FDA or in our case ECDC approved


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Eod100 wrote: »

    June 10 2020: 10 Confirmed cases, 75 in hospital, 29 ICU
    June 10 2021: 398 Confirmed cases, 59 in hospital, 23 ICU


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Are we still in a Level at the moment, or have the levels been abandoned?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,052 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    Are we still in a Level at the moment, or have the levels been abandoned?

    Completely abandoned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Completely abandoned.

    They were abandoned as quick as they were rolled out...

    Remember level 3 and a half!!!

    No metrics were issued that would guide the progress from one level to the next.

    The thing was torn up a few weeks into it...pathetic.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Are we still in a Level at the moment, or have the levels been abandoned?

    Imagine revising your approach during the biggest global crisis in 75 years and not just sticking to the first thing you tried


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    I was looking for the current advice on returning to the office (I think it said not unless "absolutely necessary" under the 'levels' 3, 4, 5.

    But can't find current advice on that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    Stheno wrote: »
    That's one test that is not even FDA approved?

    There are many different versions of these tests that are FDA or in our case ECDC approved

    That one test is the one the UK have spent billions on.
    It wasn't approved by the FDA because they found it didn't reach their required sensitivity of 80% for approval.

    When you look at the literature of the tests that have approval, they have been tested on people with covid symptoms suspected as having the disease in controlled environments. There is very little and poor evidence for self testing at home. These findings are often from statistical models rather than real life findings.

    Cases and hospitalisations are rising in the UK. Its putting their 21st of June reopening in jeopardy. Even though these tests are so widely available.

    It's the restrictions and vaccine rollout that keep cases and hospitalisations down, not antigen tests.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.eu/article/uk-rapid-coronavirus-community-test/amp/

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57417802


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,938 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck



    The thing was torn up a few weeks into it...pathetic.

    Weeks? Try the next day.

    Level 4 with modifications says hold firm to flatten the curve.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    They were abandoned as quick as they were rolled out...

    Remember level 3 and a half!!!

    No metrics were issued that would guide the progress from one level to the next.

    The thing was torn up a few weeks into it...pathetic.

    The level we are at is a few months behind the rest of Europe

    Continuing as Europe’s most suppressed

    Not a title nPHEt plan to relinquish anytime soon


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The level we are at is a few months behind the rest of Europe

    Continuing as Europe’s most suppressed

    Not a title nPHEt plan to relinquish anytime soon

    Evidence on this claim? As the beloved stringency index has Germany as the most “suppressed” and it hasn’t as yet reflected any changes here since 10th May


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,136 ✭✭✭✭Rayne Wooney


    It’s hard not to feel like they are taking the biscuit here now with this nonsense. You learn absolutely nothing from what they’ve done there.


    https://twitter.com/tommy20times/status/1403283350928887809?s=21

    https://twitter.com/fremansolutions/status/1376165323456528387?s=21


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57441677

    Looks like they've really run out of stuff to write about. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Limerick @ 4x the national average, and 2.6x the next on the list, Donegal. 60x more than Sligo
    https://twitter.com/andrewflood/status/1403349170740662279?s=20


    So.... They've taken the targeted approach to close their vaccination centre tomorrow to host a race meet.

    https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1403347552628523016?s=20


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    Limerick @ 4x the national average, and 2.6x the next on the list, Donegal. 60x more than Sligo
    https://twitter.com/andrewflood/status/1403349170740662279?s=20


    So.... They've taken the targeted approach to close their vaccination centre tomorrow to host a race meet.

    https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1403347552628523016?s=20

    Whereas in reality the vaccine centre only opened at the racecourse this week to replace the one at the radisson which will remain open tomorrow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 710 ✭✭✭TefalBrain


    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57441677

    Looks like they've really run out of stuff to write about. :rolleyes:

    They look like they are getting desperate now.

    Yesterday's news of zero patients in Saint James's with Covid also would have hit RTE bad here. I wonder if they know the scare game is up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Just been off this week in the sunshine meeting friends and family down the country that I have not seen since January 2020! It has been emotional to say the least :)
    With more of our age fully or partially vaxxed now and all the opportunities in the good weather to meet everyone outside as well, it finally feels like we have broken this, and here's hoping everyone can get their jabs, have a lovely summer and that nothing else interferes with our opening up.
    Enjoy the beautiful weekend!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    TefalBrain wrote: »
    They look like they are getting desperate now.

    Yesterday's news of zero patients in Saint James's with Covid also would have hit RTE bad here. I wonder if they know the scare game is up?
    Today they are leading with the 8 hospitals without COVID patients!


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