Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

Stheno wrote: »

That's one test that is not even FDA approved?

There are many different versions of these tests that are FDA or in our case ECDC approved

That one test is the one the UK have spent billions on.
It wasn't approved by the FDA because they found it didn't reach their required sensitivity of 80% for approval.

When you look at the literature of the tests that have approval, they have been tested on people with covid symptoms suspected as having the disease in controlled environments. There is very little and poor evidence for self testing at home. These findings are often from statistical models rather than real life findings.

Cases and hospitalisations are rising in the UK. Its putting their 21st of June reopening in jeopardy. Even though these tests are so widely available.

It's the restrictions and vaccine rollout that keep cases and hospitalisations down, not antigen tests.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.eu/article/uk-rapid-coronavirus-community-test/amp/

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57417802

Silentcorner wrote: »

They were abandoned as quick as they were rolled out...

Remember level 3 and a half!!!

No metrics were issued that would guide the progress from one level to the next.

The thing was torn up a few weeks into it...pathetic.

The level we are at is a few months behind the rest of Europe

Continuing as Europe’s most suppressed

Not a title nPHEt plan to relinquish anytime soon

It’s hard not to feel like they are taking the biscuit here now with this nonsense. You learn absolutely nothing from what they’ve done there.


https://twitter.com/tommy20times/status/1403283350928887809?s=21

https://twitter.com/fremansolutions/status/1376165323456528387?s=21

Limerick @ 4x the national average, and 2.6x the next on the list, Donegal. 60x more than Sligo
https://twitter.com/andrewflood/status/1403349170740662279?s=20


So.... They've taken the targeted approach to close their vaccination centre tomorrow to host a race meet.

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1403347552628523016?s=20

TefalBrain wrote: »

They look like they are getting desperate now.

Yesterday's news of zero patients in Saint James's with Covid also would have hit RTE bad here. I wonder if they know the scare game is up?

Today they are leading with the 8 hospitals without COVID patients!

Goldengirl wrote: »

Just been off this week in the sunshine meeting friends and family down the country that I have not seen since January 2020! It has been emotional to say the least
With more of our age fully or partially vaxxed now and all the opportunities in the good weather to meet everyone outside as well, it finally feels like we have broken this, and here's hoping everyone can get their jabs, have a lovely summer and that nothing else interferes with our opening up.
Enjoy the beautiful weekend!

You deserved that!

For those freaked out by the whole delta thing it's not going anywhere here. Up 10 cases in May to 126.


https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0611/1227522-coronavirus-ireland/

Turtwig wrote: »

Cumbersome Pain that it is, it does look like MHQ has its uses. Maybe I'm making a false attribute here. Regardless so far we've kept all variants in check. Hopefully we can keep it that way and keep up our progression in vaccination and relaxation.
(Assuming our detection capability is up to scratch.)

With cases so low testers are buzzing like flies around the proverbial. Big fan of popups myself and reckon they have made a difference.

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

It’s hard not to feel like they are taking the biscuit here now with this nonsense. You learn absolutely nothing from what they’ve done there.


https://twitter.com/tommy20times/status/1403283350928887809?s=21

https://twitter.com/fremansolutions/status/1376165323456528387?s=21

Meanwhile, in America. Full arena, no tests, no masks (unless you want to)

https://twitter.com/GoldenKnights/status/1403200260634206210

eagle eye wrote: »

A few names starting to pop up now in my locality who are not going to take the vaccine. Idiots the lot of them, nobody yet that really surprises me.

I was talking to a 80+ year old the other day. No way was he putting that stuff in his arm. His wife died a few months ago of Covid. I just sighed and changed the subject.

Delighted to see hospitals free of Covid patients today. The vaccination programme is making a huge difference.

Does anyone know on this thread if the U.K. are mass testing those vaccinated and asymptomatic which the count in their case numbers as well as those who are symptomatic? Their low hospitalisation & death rate makes me wonder what the true picture is over there as June 21 approaches.

https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1403277721837387778

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Kingston Mills, Professor of Immunology at Trinity College Dublin, today:

“The AstraZeneca vaccine is not as good as the mRNA vaccines, you know, around 60 per cent effective compared with 88 [per cent] for the Pfizer [vaccine] against the Delta variant, even with two doses,” he said.

“So that is a significant concern for those who have been vaccinated with the AstraZenenca vaccine if the Delta variant gets a hold here in Ireland, like it has in the UK.”


A lot of people on here have said that it shouldn't matter what vaccine you've got. But with statements like this, (perhaps debatable), have views changed? I have friends in their 60s, and they are all concerned about the risks and begrudging Pfizer recipients at this stage!

For HCW, it remains an issue too presumably, and whether a mix/match approach would be more suitable?

1% of our cases are Delta vs ~92% in the UK (incidence rate per 100k of cases are similar)
We have approx ~30% people doses with AZ (hard to know without updated figures) vs 62% in the UK.
Also worth mentioning UK have 43% fully vaccinated vs our ~20%
I'm sure someone good with math can work that all out!

If a variant came along that AZ proved better than mRNA vaccines, would the same people begrudge those who got an mRNA jab? Those who got any kinda vaccine are more protected than those waiting for a first jab!

In relation to efficiency, our dominant strain is Alpha, both AZ & mRNA are equally matched there. When people people start worrying their vaccine may not be effective vs a strain which ATM makes up 1% of our cases..... I don't know what to think. If they had a vaccine 100% effective vs Delta but 60% vs Alpha, would they feel better?