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Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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  • #4322
    Benimar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Benimar


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    I apologise for saying the rate had dropped to 1 when I meant the latest estimate of the rate had dropped to 1.

    The latest estimate is 1.3, as I pointed out to you yesterday.

    Unless you have some inside track we don’t know about, you are pulling a number out of thin air tbh.


  • #4323
    Benimar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Benimar


    US2 wrote: »
    Any reason why yesterday's numbers were so low, is level 3 kicking in or what. How many positive swabs yesterday

    1038 swabs and 777 announced cases. It’s why most of us aren’t too excited about yesterday’s drop at the moment.


  • #4324
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Yay. Further staff self isolating. Relying on bank nursing here. We are running out of single rooms to keep the covid patients in as well.

    We're in for a shít winter, aren't we? I'm very worried we might still get an Italy type of disaster.


  • #4325
    Ubbquittious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    This is only a Mockdown. But don't tell Mehole that, he wants to preside over a lockdown just as severe as Leo's and the last thing he wants is to be playing second fiddle to Leo.


  • #4326
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    It's amusing that when cases are bad, the headline is posted 20 times on RTE news. When the numbers are better, they don't even mention it.

    Last night's numbers are buried in a piece on Tony's interview on the Late Late, but Thursday's numbers are still the title of an article.


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  • #4327
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    US2 wrote: »
    Any reason why yesterday's numbers were so low, is level 3 kicking in or what. How many positive swabs yesterday
    Positivity rate has been dropping consistently now all week. Level 3 is having an effect. How sustained it is, is yet to be seen, but it is undeniable that numbers are on the way down.


  • #4328
    Russman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,000 ✭✭✭Russman


    Ubbquittious wrote: »
    This is only a Mockdown. But don't tell Mehole that, he wants to preside over a lockdown just as severe as Leo's and the last thing he wants is to be playing second fiddle to Leo.

    Someone jokingly said to me yesterday that it’s a real FF lockdown as opposed to a lockdown :D


  • #4329
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,723 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Benimar wrote: »
    1038 swabs and 777 announced cases. It’s why most of us aren’t too excited about yesterday’s drop at the moment.

    Totally, a couple of hundred cases to be added on, however the stabilisation of Swabs and even the drop from 1500, 1200,1100 odd last week is encouraging and thankfully that's a different e word than we were hearing


  • #4330
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    zinfandel wrote: »
    would it not be better having all the covid patients together and keeping the single rooms for non covid?

    I don't know, if covid patients shared a room and covid spread by just breathing, can taking in extra virus make them sicker?


  • #4331
    mean gene
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭mean gene


    seamus wrote: »
    It's amusing that when cases are bad, the headline is posted 20 times on RTE news. When the numbers are better, they don't even mention it.

    Last night's numbers are buried in a piece on Tony's interview on the Late Late, but Thursday's numbers are still the title of an article.

    rte have been a total disgrace during this era I know their full of sh1t but a vulnerable pensioner may think other -bunch of cowboys


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  • #4332
    Call me Al
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭Call me Al


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    I don't know, if covid patients shared a room and covid spread by just breathing, can taking in extra virus make them sicker?

    Yes I think viral load often has implications wrt how sick people can get.
    If somebody is in hospital being treated for a different illness but happens to test positive for asymptomatic covid, I'd think exposing them to higher levels of virus would increase their risk of covid sickness.


  • #4333
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Will someone please start a thread for people like you where the only type of post tollerated is one in support of the official Oirish pan(dem)ic response.

    If you want a high five, bro, echo chamber of like minnds, have at it.

    Why don’t you start your own thread for people like yourself.

    Several posters, myself included, called out a poster who posted a made up R number as fact, if you don’t agree then post updated numbers including a reliable source.

    I really don’t know what your problem is, but whether it is; it’s on you.


  • #4334
    Thierry12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 917 ✭✭✭Thierry12


    seamus wrote: »
    Positivity rate has been dropping consistently now all week. Level 3 is having an effect. How sustained it is, is yet to be seen, but it is undeniable that numbers are on the way down.

    Yeah its great to see

    Settling at level 3 would be liveable

    Would like to have a steak dinner, if they could get that in


  • #4335
    opinionated3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭opinionated3


    Thierry12 wrote: »
    Yeah its great to see

    Settling at level 3 would be liveable

    Would like to have a steak dinner, if they could get that in

    Settling at level three is liveable? Are you serious? No socialising?


  • #4336
    Xaniaj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭Xaniaj


    opinionated3 wrote: »
    Settling at level three is liveable? Are you serious? No socialising?

    God forbid you don't live in the same county as your family, I'm now into month.... 5? of not being able to visit my family this year.


  • #4337
    Goldrickssan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭Goldrickssan


    Thierry12 wrote: »
    Yeah its great to see

    Settling at level 3 would be liveable

    Would like to have a steak dinner, if they could get that in

    We need level 2 for Xmas.

    If cases are actually going to start trending down now I can see us into level 3 in 6 weeks. Then maybe level 2 a couple of weeks after that and through Xmas.

    Then its back to square one though because our health service is absolute ass capacity wise.


  • #4338
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    seamus wrote: »
    It's amusing that when cases are bad, the headline is posted 20 times on RTE news. When the numbers are better, they don't even mention it.

    Last night's numbers are buried in a piece on Tony's interview on the Late Late, but Thursday's numbers are still the title of an article.

    Legislation was passed on Thursday to seal the records of the mother and baby homes for 30 years, and in doing so the government will breach European and Irish law, according to the Office of the Data Protection Commission.

    There isn't one mention of this on RTE's website today, yet it is the main headline on the Irish Examiner today.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40070294.html

    Had the public not been so distracted by Covid, there would be uproar about this.


  • #4339
    Blondini
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭Blondini


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Yeah 777 was the biggest divergence with the trend in last 100 days. Hopefully it is the start of a prolonged decrease but we'll have to wait and see. Certainly looks like an outlier.

    What's an outlier?


  • #4340
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Blondini wrote: »
    What's an outlier?

    a person or thing situated away or detached from the main body or system.


  • #4341
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    normanoffside wrote: »
    It was in Athy Co Kildare Paddy

    I was told about that shebeen in Athy in late August. The Gardai just raided it last night. :rolleyes:


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  • #4342
    Blondini
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭Blondini


    Deleted User wrote: »
    a person or thing situated away or detached from the main body or system.

    Sorry, I was being facetious.


  • #4343
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Deleted User wrote: »
    a person or thing situated away or detached from the main body or system.

    Would a shebeen be an outlier so? :pac:


  • #4344
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Blondini wrote: »
    What's an outlier?

    there are some posters in this thread who are out and out liars.


  • #4345
    Blondini
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭Blondini


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Would a shebeen be an outlier so? :pac:

    Come on, you'd know that if you studied bartistics .


  • #4346
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Blondini wrote: »
    Come on, you'd know that if you studied bartistics .

    haha yeah an outlier has become a politically loaded term. It has a different meanings to different people and they are necessarily wrong. Very hard to agree on what constitutes one with covid data. One county final can produce 'an outlier' but it's not actually an outlier as it is real.

    What affect of doing your own contract tracing has on the numbers? I know we are model citizens but there will be some who'd rather say nothing and maintain plausible deniability. There's no shame with this thing but it would be a hard call if there was a household member who was vulnerable.
    There is no rigid mathematical definition of what constitutes an outlier; determining whether or not an observation is an outlier is ultimately a subjective exercise.[7] There are various methods of outlier detection.[8][9][10][11] Some are graphical such as normal probability plots. Others are model-based. Box plots are a hybrid.

    Model-based methods which are commonly used for identification assume that the data are from a normal distribution, and identify observations which are deemed "unlikely" based on mean and standard deviation:


  • #4347
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,259 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    46 Long wrote: »
    We make judgements like that all the time. The HSE website lists annual flu deaths of between 200-500 every year, mostly older people. Lockdowns, mandatory face masks and social distancing would probably reduce the number of deaths and mitigate the pressure on the health services. But we don't do that, never have and never will.

    You cannot compare flu and covid. That stats you have posted re: flu are bad but the covid situation is catastrophic...

    Ireland cases: 55,261

    Ireland deaths : 1,878


  • #4348
    Thierry12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 917 ✭✭✭Thierry12


    Strumms wrote: »
    You cannot compare flu and covid. That stats you have posted re: flu are bad but the covid situation is catastrophic...

    Ireland cases: 55,261

    Ireland deaths : 1,878

    Its probably 250,000 - 500,000 cases in realty

    Still way worse than flu, incomparable


  • #4349
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Legislation was passed on Thursday to seal the records of the mother and baby homes for 30 years, and in doing so the government will breach European and Irish law, according to the Office of the Data Protection Commission.

    There isn't one mention of this on RTE's website today, yet it is the main headline on the Irish Examiner today.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40070294.html

    Had the public not been so distracted by Covid, there would be uproar about this.
    The Data Protection commissioner has noted that it's against both European and Irish GDPR.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/blanket-ban-on-mother-and-baby-homes-data-access-contested-1.4389816


  • #4350
    Thierry12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 917 ✭✭✭Thierry12


    opinionated3 wrote: »
    Settling at level three is liveable? Are you serious? No socialising?

    For now anyway

    Compared to many countries in Europe we have Covid under control

    Maybe a level 2.5 will keep it at bay and we can see family more and have some socialisation in restaurants etc


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  • #4351
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Blondini wrote: »
    What's an outlier?

    It's annoying the way the case reporting is so inconsistent. I think we all know that yesterday's true number was about 1000, similar to previous days, based on the swab data. It's pretty pointless publishing daily data if it's just not reliable.


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