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The death of Thiago Cortes MOD NOTE IN OP

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    tiger_cub wrote: »
    I live in D1 and while it’s always been bad, the last few months since lockdown have been absolutely lawless. Scheduled fights between kids shutting down roads, gangs patrolling and since June it‘s been fireworks starting at lunchtime going to all hours of the night. The complex I live in had to make calls to the Gardai multiple times a day since about May given the level of unrest all over the neighbourhood. The odd day a patrol car would drive by but rarely stopped and I can’t blame them really.

    My real issue came on Wednesday when the Dail came back to sit at the Convention Center. There’s now about 12 on foot Gardai, 2-4 mounted Gardai and an aqua unit boat cruising the Liffey at any point during the day. So the Ministers and TDs are more deserving of protection than the families and young professionals who live in the area and all of the workers who come through the area on a daily basis?

    To the posters trying to make this about cycling - North Wall Quay is arguably the widest road in city center. At 10.30pm there is very little traffic. (But cycling doesn’t even come into it)

    This incident hit me hard. I’ve emailed Helen McEntee to ask her to account for disparity in Gardai resources in the area through the summer (and indeed Monday night) versus two days later when the Dail is sitting 200m from where this man died on his own on the side of the road. I don’t expect a response but I’m so damn irate about this I‘ll nearly keep going and email every one of the 160 TDS until someone gives some answers.

    I'll back you up with an email. Also living around this way just up in D3 but the North Inner City stuff is spilling over. You need to cc local councillors aswell into your mail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭Sam Quentin


    Why is there so few Police Men in this Country?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭RWCNT


    Daragh1980 wrote: »
    Some on the Left are remarkably quiet about this given that it seems the joyriders are underprivileged. I guess the usual excuses will start.

    What's it like seeing the world through this distorted prism where a "left vs right" angle has to be shoehorned into literally everything?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭PhilOssophy


    Are there stats available for the number of Gardai per 100k population? How do we compare to other countries? Its easy to always play poor mouth as a Garda but I know a few of them and lazier more couldn't give a toss people you could not meet.

    I've often wondered what exactly they spend all their time doing. I often wondered why at 8am every morning they aren't out on motorbikes catching car drivers texting, driving in bus lanes, catching cyclists running red lights or with no lights in mid-winter, checking for speeding, and so on.

    I don't necessarily believe we compare much worse in terms of resources than other countries, but what is lacking is a real deterrent to these scumbag. How many times do you see in the court "the man had 80 previous convictions"? FFS nobody should be in a position to get more than 2-3 convictions. Its a joke.

    On a slight aside, I watched a documentary about Mannix Flynn recently. While what the catholic church (of which I am no fan) did to them was reprehensible, there is no doubting that the whole family were complete scum just like those who killed this man. They all talked about how many institutions they were in. Complete and utter scum the lot of them. I don't necessarily feel they deserved any better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    RWCNT wrote: »
    What's it like seeing the world through this distorted prism where a "left vs right" angle has to be shoehorned into literally everything?

    In fairness if there is to be any answer to this madness - it has to be a political one.

    The politics of this issue DO, in this instance, actually follow a dichotomy of laissez-faire low-presence policing or soft approach (favoured by leftists who see the scum as disenfranchised and needing their 'voice') and the get-tough measures of keen policing and stiff sentencing favoured by the right.

    It wasn't shoe-horned at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    I think I read during the recent George Floyd events that with recent recruitment we have about as many police in uniform as the US per capita. Worth looking up though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,068 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    Sure half of them are useless anyway regardless of having enough Garda per capita or not. What's an obese man or a 5'2" woman going to do to scare off a bunch of fearless scumbags?

    The ones to blame are their careless parents. They're the typical ones you see in town with 3 kids hanging from the buggy all munching on happy meals. No wonder they grow up this way. It's an endless cycle that will never be stopped. The only solution is to get rid of them from the city centre and give them their free homes elsewhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭Sam Quentin


    Yurt! wrote: »
    I think I read during the recent George Floyd events that with recent recruitment we have about as many police in uniform as the US per capita. Worth looking up though.

    Maybe so...but do they have as many criminals running around free with 10/15/20 convictions!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    MarkY91 wrote: »
    ...get rid of them from the city centre and give them their free homes elsewhere.

    Would like to see a safer city centre in Dubland - but elsewhere is nowhere. Somebody has to suffer. The only attempt I've seen to address was in the Netherlands with their 'scum village' idea:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2012/dec/04/liberal-amsterdam-plans-scum-villages


    But the incandescent bleeding hearts here would fill a million Joe Duffy shows at such a suggestion for Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,597 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    topper75 wrote: »
    Would like to see a safer city centre in Dubland - but elsewhere is nowhere. Somebody has to suffer. The only attempt I've seen to address was in the Netherlands with their 'scum village' idea:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2012/dec/04/liberal-amsterdam-plans-scum-villages


    But the incandescent bleeding hearts here would fill a million Joe Duffy shows at such a suggestion for Ireland.

    Would be nice if we did something alright. Many of the social welfare residents of inner city Dublin simply don't care or know how to raise kids. We've all seen how they interact it their kids, they don't lick their violence and anger issues off a stone. And why should I give a sh*t about how people raise their kids? Because it means parts of our Capital City are dives full of scumbags that makes it unpleasant for normal good people. It's only going to get worse as they are untouchable and they keep housing them in the city centre.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    MarkY91 wrote: »
    Sure half of them are useless anyway regardless of having enough Garda per capita or not. What's an obese man or a 5'2" woman going to do to scare off a bunch of fearless scumbags?

    The ones to blame are their careless parents. They're the typical ones you see in town with 3 kids hanging from the buggy all munching on happy meals. No wonder they grow up this way. It's an endless cycle that will never be stopped. The only solution is to get rid of them from the city centre and give them their free homes elsewhere.

    What free homes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,597 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    What free homes?

    When people pay a pittance for a prime real estate abode in town, and that pittance comes from their dole money, we consider that basically free. But you know this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,310 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    What free homes?

    They're not free homes.

    They cost us hard working tax payers a fortune.


    All too common to see the lefties excusing murders committed by the "most vulnerable "


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,597 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Here's an account from Reddit as to what these guys have had to put up with lately, there is no doubt these little knackers will target more Deliveroo drivers
    Greetings!
    Im Brazillian and Deliveroo Driver and im gonna propose some discussion and a plead for help.
    Few days ago I opened another discurssion on Reddit where I reported my experience as a Driver in Dublin. You can check it in the link below:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/ifl4qb/about_garda_and_teenage_thiefs/
    Many of you had no idea of the situation until the death of Thiago, but its getting worse every day. I know that because we Drivers protect each other using whatsapp groups or travling together, since we cant have any protection of Garda.
    Lets talk about Thiago now. I saw hin a couple of times in the street because he was new in the business. But every time we spoke he was always smiling, laughing, making jokes and everything, like his wife said. That kind of person who makes friends everywhere. He was working as Deliveroo to make some money to help his daughter and family in Brazil. RIP my friend.
    Lets talk about our Vigil. We all met at Spire and our plan was to make a Vigil into the place where Thiago was murdered. The initial plan was to follow the river but Garda denied and made us change the course and follow Sean Macdermontt Street Lower, the kind of place we always avoid to make delivery because theres a lot of savage kids in there, but we had no choice.
    After several minutes of walking we heard a noise BOOM! and people runing, Gardas runing and screams. One dumb kid threw a firework at us. We was walking peacefuly, asking for respect and safety and this **** happens. Is kinda throw gasoline in fire.
    HES NOT THE DRIVER and we didnt assault his home as some of you may heard. The video that was released in the media shows the moment after the firework. The moment where the brazillians was raiding into the guy.
    Lets talk about Garda and their role in everything. In the video is possible to see Garda protecting the kid. Of course they have to protect. Otherwise he would be beated and turned into red pesto sauce. But what else Garda did? This little **** faced any criminal charge? Hell no.
    I know some friends that are facing legal charges and fees just because their bikes is "too big for cycling in the streets". Big bikes, Big batteries, accelerator, ****in lights everything is a reason for Garda stop us and threathen us of deportation, but protect us agains those kids? Nah they are just kids and they cant do anything. Today (03/09/2020) many riders sent on wpp group that a group of 30/40 kids was beating riders in O`connel. How? I mean its ****ing O`connel. Wheres Garda? They also said to avoid Cheriff Street because kids are doing anbush there on riders. The same street where we peacefully walked yesterday. They are organizing some "fight back" because our Virgil? Maybe.
    Thats the problem we face every ****ing day. In the back we have Gangs of kids terrorizing us, beating us, stealing our bikes, killing us. In front we have Garda making our life more dificult with all those deportation threats.
    Lets have a quick talk about Riders. Many of us are Brazillians, Mexicans, Colombians and many others. Many of us came to Ireland using money of years of saving. In those countrys is not easy to travel abroad. Is VERY expernsive. But we have dreams, we wanna see what a 1st world country looks like, we wanna learn english and travel around Europe. WE HAVE ****ING DREAMS
    I fell in love with ireland and the Irish People, I really do. Thats why I came to beg for help. We have no one to protect us, your laws dont protect us, your police force dont protect us. Our comunity is big but we dont have enough voice to make changes, or your politics doesnt want to hear us. We are left alone and they are beating us and killing us. Im gonna work tomorrow but im afraid of never return to my wife again.
    If you know anyone who can help just tell me. If you have contacts in Garda or politcs try to talk with them. Any kind of help is welcome
    Here https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/garda%C3%AD-believe-they-have-identified-driver-who-hit-dublin-cyclist-1.4345848 you can find the last news about what happened.
    Sorry about the long post and my english. A huge thank you for all the wonderfull Irish people. You guys have a amazing country that looks like a heaven on earth. Peace and be safe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    Pkiernan wrote: »
    They're not free homes.

    They cost us hard working tax payers a fortune.


    All too common to see the lefties excusing murders committed by the "most vulnerable "

    What? People in council housing work you do realise that right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    When people pay a pittance for a prime real estate abode in town, and that pittance comes from their dole money, we consider that basically free. But you know this.

    Oh I agree if on the dole it's as good as free but not if you are working.


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    Daragh1980 wrote: »
    Some on the Left are remarkably quiet about this given that it seems the joyriders are underprivileged. I guess the usual excuses will start.

    Compare the general reaction to that rumour of the Skerries girl last week. They were from well-off backgrounds and people were calling for their heads - yet 4 scums run a man over and leave him to die in the street and it’s radio silence.


  • Registered Users Posts: 29 lchang


    coinop wrote: »
    Surely the USA and Canada are closer for Brazilians? Language schools are closed during the pandemic so why are they really here? I appreciate your reply but you're guessing. I was hoping someone in the know could fill me in.

    These are the reasons to pick Ireland in my opinion as a Brazilian. I am guessing that since the pandemic, students are not coming to Ireland since schools are closed. I'm referring to students that came to Ireland before the pandemic.

    1) In order to come to Ireland, students are only required to purchase an English course. The visa will be granted once they are already in the state. For the USA and Canada the visa process in more cumbersome and one must apply in Brazil.
    2) most of these students have the desire and ambition to backpack across Europe and see the "world" so being in Ireland allow them to travel across the EU.
    3) in Ireland students are allowed to work legally 20 hours per week which might not be the case in other locations.
    4) although cost of living in Ireland are huge, it works out cheaper for these students to come in comparison with costs to go to the USA, Canada, Britain, Australia,etc

    Having said all that, if you are Brazilian and have no English at all, it is very unlikely you will get a job, so the only available jobs are jobs with minimum or no interaction with customers, so a deliveroo rider role seem a good option, allowing you to pay for bills, whilst also working on your own fitness,etc.

    In relation to the drugs part, I prefer to not comment as we can't confirm that all riders are passing drugs but I understand that many do. The same applies to rickshaw guys.

    The very little that do bad things create a bad reputation on the rest of us, who work hard, pay our taxes and just want a peaceful life in the beautiful island of Ireland.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,290 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Crap Parenting. Again.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Little scrotes in North Dublin would target any of us. We are in solidarity with the Deliveroo drivers on this.

    They are fooking vermin creating havoc with no fear of repurcussions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Maybe so...but do they have as many criminals running around free with 10/15/20 convictions!?

    Without reference to stats, I'd be fairly sure the US as a whole has a more severe crime problem than Ireland. And that's not to soft-peddle this incident, it's an outrage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,597 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Thiago's gofundme is up to 50k now, great to see. They should refuse to deliver to certain parts of town really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Thiago's gofundme is up to 50k now, great to see. They should refuse to deliver to certain parts of town really.

    You'd hope Deliveroo do something for his repatriation costs and his fiancée in Ireland also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    I'm not sure how deliveroo works but is not like Uber or MyTaxi where you can choose to do the delivery or not?


  • Registered Users Posts: 492 ✭✭Fritzbox


    Yurt! wrote: »
    I think I read during the recent George Floyd events that with recent recruitment we have about as many police in uniform as the US per capita. Worth looking up though.

    That really wouldn't be hard - there is no particular reason to believe that the USA actually has a high number of police members per capita compared to other developed countries, is there? In fact the Gardai have 14,000 members according to Wikipedia, so I suspect that Ireland has as many police officers as any other Western European or North American country per capita.

    Here's a factoid:
    There are almost as many police stations in the Republic of Ireland as there are in NI, Scotland, Wales and the London metropolitan region put together. What does that tell you about policing in Ireland?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,289 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Yurt! wrote: »
    You'd hope Deliveroo do something for his repatriation costs and his fiancée in Ireland also.

    You'd hope that they will treat their living employees better but that's not gonna happen either. If they do anything they will do it for PR, but in reality they can only do a single good thing, and that's to pack up and go fk themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Cordell wrote: »
    You'd hope that they hwill treat their living employees better but that's not gonna happen either. If they do anything they will do it for PR, but in reality they can only do a single good thing, and that's to pack up and go fk themselves.

    Don’t hate the player hate the game.

    It’s the legislators of this country that need to change the rules, not the companies that are operating (exploiting) within them.

    Zero hour contracts should be illegal first and foremost, they are an exercise in control and exploitation. For jobs that are at the minimum wage or very close to it If you can’t agree to give somebody at least a ten hour contract then you shouldn’t be allowed to hire them.


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    +1 the deliveroo jobs could be wiped out overnight if the legislative willingness was there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Mod

    After discussion via pm Weldoninhio can post in this thread again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,289 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Don’t hate the player hate the game.

    Oh but I will, and the supplier and the customer also :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 466 ✭✭DulchieLaois


    And what will happen, NOTHING cause the Gardaí are chicken ****, the little ****s will run amok cause they are covered by the law due to their age and they will always be a burden to society until d fools in Leinster house realises this.

    The decent hard working people will mourn Thiago cause he was a decent hard working fella, and for his life to be taken away by thugs is not acceptable.

    Those thugs should be taken away and the crap beaten out of them, no law should protect them irrespective of age.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,636 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    +1 the deliveroo jobs could be wiped out overnight if the legislative willingness was there.

    It's nothing but a form of coolie type labour. Ashamed that in 21st cent Ireland we think it's ok.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,022 ✭✭✭conorhal


    topper75 wrote: »
    In fairness if there is to be any answer to this madness - it has to be a political one.

    The politics of this issue DO, in this instance, actually follow a dichotomy of laissez-faire low-presence policing or soft approach (favoured by leftists who see the scum as disenfranchised and needing their 'voice') and the get-tough measures of keen policing and stiff sentencing favoured by the right.

    It wasn't shoe-horned at all.


    I have to agree with that. We've spent 51 million on the land and servicing it since the Thornton Hall site was bought in the 90's and still no prision has been built.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/thornton-hall-prison-site-that-cost-state-51m-offered-for-housing-1.3756763

    The reality is that judges are told not to impose custodial sentences because the places don't exist to jail offenders.
    This is policy, the most telling part of that article I posted has got to be:
    "When this was put to the department, a spokesman said the large prison originally envisaged in 2005 by the then government was now regarded, in modern penal policy terms, as “counterproductive”.


    So there you go, we don't want more prison places because it's “counterproductive” according to modern social policy, you see this all the time from clowns like John Lonergan, former governer of the Joy, who doesn't belive in jailing people. There is very much a soft headed load of lefty quangocrats in charge of penal policy and they don't want to see a new jail build despite the fact that one was badly needed back in the 90's before we added another half a million people to the population.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The decent hard working people will mourn Thiago cause he was a decent hard working fella, and for his life to be taken away by thugs is not acceptable.




    Exactly. So much for 'the people who get up early in the morning'.


    Ireland is far too soft.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    Yurt! wrote: »
    You'd hope Deliveroo do something for his repatriation costs and his fiancée in Ireland also.

    Never used them as i rarely don't home cook or eat out in a restaurant but Deliveroo look like a right scumbag company to work for. :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    It's nothing but a form of coolie type labour. Ashamed that in 21st cent Ireland we think it's ok.

    They even give it a fancy name, the "gig economy"

    Employees make a pittance and are worked like dogs. :mad:


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    They even give it a fancy name, the "gig economy"

    Employees make a pittance and are worked like dogs. :mad:

    We should stop snatching them off Brazilian streets and forcing them to come here and do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,289 ✭✭✭Cordell


    They even give it a fancy name, the "gig economy"

    Employees make a pittance and are worked like dogs. :mad:

    There's nothing fancy about that name. A fancy name will be "independent contractor led economy" but let's not give them ideas :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,330 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    conorhal wrote: »
    I have to agree with that. We've spent 51 million on the land and servicing it since the Thornton Hall site was bought in the 90's and still no prision has been built.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/thornton-hall-prison-site-that-cost-state-51m-offered-for-housing-1.3756763

    The reality is that judges are told not to impose custodial sentences because the places don't exist to jail offenders.
    This is policy, the most telling part of that article I posted has got to be:
    "When this was put to the department, a spokesman said the large prison originally envisaged in 2005 by the then government was now regarded, in modern penal policy terms, as “counterproductive”.


    So there you go, we don't want more prison places because it's “counterproductive” according to modern social policy, you see this all the time from clowns like John Lonergan, former governer of the Joy, who doesn't belive in jailing people. There is very much a soft headed load of lefty quangocrats in charge of penal policy and they don't want to see a new jail build despite the fact that one was badly needed back in the 90's before we added another half a million people to the population.

    That is interesting.
    What is the capacity of your prisons and how does it compare EU wide I wonder?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    I’ve said it a number of times, if you reformed properly the legal system in this country it would have a profoundly positive effect on the lives of everybody because crime, insurance, planning, asylum seeking, compo culture, accountability, corporate corruption and many other areas of life would improve and benefit everybody.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭dhaughton99


    Thiago Cortes mourners clash with Dublin residents after firework thrown at vigil by youths

    https://m.independent.ie/videos/thiago-cortes-mourners-clash-with-dublin-residents-after-firework-thrown-at-vigil-by-youths-39503114.html

    Says it all really, doesn’t it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Thiago Cortes mourners clash with Dublin residents after firework thrown at vigil by youths

    https://m.independent.ie/videos/thiago-cortes-mourners-clash-with-dublin-residents-after-firework-thrown-at-vigil-by-youths-39503114.html

    Says it all really, doesn’t it?

    Indeed it does, and yet people will still defend these "poor misguided youths" as being a product of their environs. Its multi generational scum and it needs to stop.

    The likelihood is that these scrotes will have their own kids early and it's rinse, wash, repeat 20-25 years down the line.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    I’ve said it a number of times, if you reformed properly the legal system in this country it would have a profoundly positive effect on the lives of everybody because crime, insurance, planning, asylum seeking, compo culture, accountability, corporate corruption and many other areas of life would improve and benefit everybody.

    It really does seem to be the crux of a lot of issues.


  • Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭duffmann


    I was at the vigil and the crowd were angry. I am not surprised. I have heard about so many attacks on foreigners and that they have zero faith in the Gardai. They cannot understand how Dublin is so lawless. Also, they cannot understand why so many Irish people are unemployed. RIP Thiago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,272 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    I’ve said it a number of times, if you reformed properly the legal system in this country it would have a profoundly positive effect on the lives of everybody because crime, insurance, planning, asylum seeking, compo culture, accountability, corporate corruption and many other areas of life would improve and benefit everybody.


    The last great bastion of the old British system. Should be part of the civil service. No one except the very poor or very rich can afford law!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    duffmann wrote: »
    I was at the vigil and the crowd were angry. I am not surprised. I have heard about so many attacks on foreigners and that they have zero faith in the Gardai. They cannot understand how Dublin is so lawless. Also, they cannot understand why so many Irish people are unemployed. RIP Thiago.

    Don't they know about the virus?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,310 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    Don't they know about the virus?

    Most generous long term dole system on earth.
    Criminals breeding criminals is a financial investment for the most vulnerable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,068 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    Never used them as i rarely don't home cook or eat out in a restaurant but Deliveroo look like a right scumbag company to work for. :mad:

    Nobody asked them to work for Deliveroo though. It's a choice. Some people are almost comparing it to slavery lol.


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭celticWario


    I'm from an area where anti-social behaviour is endemic as well, and while it's easy to say "they're all dole scroungers" many of the dirtbag kids parents are working, it's more to do with the attitude of people in the area, bad is good, bad is fun, doing bad things is funny, combine that with a hatred of the Gardai, the Gardai are scum, **** the Gardai etc. it's ingrained in these people and it doesn't matter whether their parents have jobs or not. Look at these scenes from last week:



    This is the culture of these people, do what you like and there are zero consequences, the Gardai can't do anything, there is no sanction for their behaviour.
    It was already mentioned that when that poor woman was pushed into the Canal by those scummy teens (their identities were leaked online, all their parents are working iirc) people were saying she could have been killed, and now someone has been killed, well things are going to escalate, someone is going to snap and kill one of these dirtbag kids, and everyone who was saying that the law should be changed for them to be charged and we should come down like a tonne of bricks on them will suddenly wring their hands and say "ahh he was only a kid", like that psychotic drug dealer who was dismembered, or when one of them goes under a car or a bus on their scramblers, suddenly they're an angel and it's a tragedy, and society has failed them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    It really does seem to be the crux of a lot of issues.

    It’s a bit bottleneck that enriches a few.
    It just happens to enrich the few that have the power to change it.


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