The death of Thiago Cortes MOD NOTE IN OP

saabsaab

lawrencesummers wrote: »

It’s a bit bottleneck that enriches a few.
It just happens to enrich the few that have the power to change it.

A very undemocratic and basically unjust system. Until recently those who studied it had to pay to do so as apprentices! Kept ordinary folk out of the system.

Thelonious Monk

https://www.thejournal.ie/garda-investigation-man-assaulted-seville-place-dublin-5195979-Sep2020/

For f*cks sake. It's a f*cking kip. Someone in critical condition after an assault, just around the corner from where Thiago was murdered. Get these people out of the city centre, they're ruining it for decent people.

Richard Hillman

Please tell them that this legislation went through
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/motors/harsher-penalties-for-hit-and-run-offences-on-irish-roads-1.1592281

The issue of penalties for drivers who leave the scene of crash was highlighted by case of Shane O’Farrell, a 23-year-old trainee barrister from Co Monaghan, who was killed when he was knocked off his bicycle in 2011. The driver did not stop.

Zigimantas Gridzuiska, a 39-year-old, admitted colliding with Farrell and leaving the scene. When the case came to court Gridzuiska was given the option of eight months in jail or returning home to Lithuania. He opted for the latter

These scrotes better hope they get prison time. Retribution in Brazil isn't a suspended sentence and a fas course. You'll be getting it at your doorstep.

AndrewJRenko

MarkY91 wrote: »

Nobody asked them to work for Deliveroo though. It's a choice. Some people are almost comparing it to slavery lol.

You don't have too many choices when you're a Brazilian student on a 'learning English' language visa. It's not a coincidence that Deliveroo is mostly staffed by non-Irish students.

duffmann

saabsaab wrote: »

The last great bastion of the old British system. Should be part of the civil service. No one except the very poor or very rich can afford law!

Probably for a difference thread but which political party would shake things up?

saabsaab

duffmann wrote: »

Probably for a difference thread but which political party would shake things up?

Yes, a different thread but I don't know a few have started but little happened before a change of Government. Probably need cross party agreement perhaps Sinn Fein?

ChikiChiki

duffmann wrote: »

Probably for a difference thread but which political party would shake things up?

No one that is present today. The appetite isn't there to fix it. Most of these lawmakers live out of Dublin and are oblivious/blissfully ignorant to the dept of the social issues that exist and root causes.

Thelonious Monk

saabsaab wrote: »

Yes, a different thread but I don't know a few have started but little happened before a change of Government. Probably need cross party agreement perhaps Sinn Fein?

I'm pretty sure Sinn Fein would be more in the give every scumbag in Dublin their own quayside penthouse camp. All them idiots in the city centre vote for Sinn Fein because up the ra and all that.

Zebra3

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I'm pretty sure Sinn Fein would be more in the give every scumbag in Dublin their own quayside penthouse camp. All them idiots in the city centre vote for Sinn Fein because up the ra and all that.

I doubt anyone involved in trouble in those areas bothers their hole voting.

celticWario

saabsaab wrote: »

Yes, a different thread but I don't know a few have started but little happened before a change of Government. Probably need cross party agreement perhaps Sinn Fein?

Sinn are pro criminal and anti-gardai

jimwallace197

celticWario wrote: »

Sinn are pro criminal and anti-gardai

On the contrary, we have one of the most corrupt police forces in the western world. Fair play to Sinn Fein for standing up against them and opposing the special criminal court which is an infringement on all our human rights.

Only thickos who make the statement like you did understand the consequences of something like this before its too late and you're in hot water yourself.

Zebra3

celticWario wrote: »

Sinn are pro criminal and anti-gardai

Ever hear of Denis O'Brien and how he made his money?

A good friend of FG.

Ever hear of tax amnesties for criminals?

FF, your only man.

Leinster90

Zebra3 wrote: »

Ever hear of Denis O'Brien and how he made his money?

A good friend of FG.

Ever hear of tax amnesties for criminals?

FF, your only man.

Ever hear of the IRA? It’s another way of saying Sinn Féin.

lawrencesummers

Leinster90 wrote: »

Ever hear of the IRA? It’s another way of saying Sinn Féin.

And when the Gardai were sitting on their hands doing nothing about the heroin epedemic in the north inner city Dublin the IRA came to the people assistance in safeguarding those organizing the Concerned parents against pushers groups.

The IRA are also the reason Boris Johnston isn’t your leader, so balance the good with the bad and be a bit objective. The narrative that the IRA has done nothing but bad (they have done plenty wrong, I don’t dispute that) in this country is sickening and shows only a massive lack of knowledge about history.

lawrencesummers

If you want to disparage the view of SF and how they may or may not have a positive effect in changing the legal system in this country don’t forget that Mary Lou is a part of that system, as are many other politicians and their appetite to change the system that has enriched them would not be massive to say the least. It could mean bringing ‘pain’ onto their own, and that not likely.

Baggly

Mod

This thread has gotten way off topic.

Get back to the topic at hand or don't post in this thread.

suicide_circus

Unconditional generous welfare

+

Disrespected unarmed "community" policing

+

Revolving door court system

=

Thriving scumbag culture.

Baggly

Mod

Its cards from here on out for OT posting.

Pkiernan

Will we ever have a TD who will stand for justice for people who work being preyed on by gangs of feral scum like this who killed this poor man trying to make a living?

Think of the irony, a man who works a low paid dangerous job being killed by a law breaking life long recipient of free money and housing.

How can anyone be so stupid as to support the welfare policies that directly led to this mans death.

Its sickening.

Galwayguy35

Pkiernan wrote: »

Will we ever have a TD who will stand for justice for people who work being preyed on by gangs of feral scum like this who killed this poor man trying to make a living?

Think of the irony, a man who works a low paid dangerous job being killed by a law breaking life long recipient of free money and housing.

How can anyone be so stupid as to support the welfare policies that directly led to this mans death.

Its sickening.

Because TDs only care about votes, they are all spineless and the radio silence from some of them about what happened is very telling.

macpaccrack

It gets worse.

An article today states that the detective on the case believes these vermin intentionally targeted Thiago.

Thelonious Monk

macpaccrack wrote: »

It gets worse.

An article today states that the detective on the case believes these vermin intentionally targeted Thiago.

Is anyone surprised? Where did you see this article?

Thelonious Monk

A minute's silence for him at Vasco da Gama football club in Brazil today, wow

https://twitter.com/VascodaGama/status/1301316057542594560

Mongfinder General

macpaccrack wrote: »

It gets worse.

An article today states that the detective on the case believes these vermin intentionally targeted Thiago.

Area is covered in cameras. There shouldn't be any doubt whatsoever as to the actions of the driver.
I put a child's seat on the back of my bike. There is rarely a child in it but I find that other road users are more careful around me.

ChikiChiki

macpaccrack wrote: »

It gets worse.

An article today states that the detective on the case believes these vermin intentionally targeted Thiago.

If that's the case I'd like to see Dubliners take to the streets and demand meaningful action. The scumbag generation has to be stopped in its tracks.

macpaccrack

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Is anyone surprised? Where did you see this article?

https://www.thesun.ie/news/5864032/thiago-cortes-dad-scatter-ashes-dublin-dream/

RasTa

Why would the detective on a case be discussing it with a newspaper?

Fritzbox

macpaccrack wrote: »

https://www.thesun.ie/news/5864032/thiago-cortes-dad-scatter-ashes-dublin-dream/

Nowhere in this article does it say that a Garda detective believes that the driver of the car hit the cyclist deliberately. Read the article again.

Jimbob1977

It would have been fitting if the Deliveroo crowd had delivered a firm thrashing to the 'salt of the earth'.

KevRossi

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

It would have been fitting if the Deliveroo crowd had delivered a firm thrashing to the 'salt of the earth'.

Much as I'd like to see that, it will only escalate things. I lived off the NCR until a couple of months ago and there's plenty of cowardly scumbags around; the worst type.

We saw when they were challenged the other day how they ran into their apartments when faced with a proper threat. If they are given a beating, they will wait in groups and target any cyclist, or pedestrian in their area; go out, give them a beating and retreat into their enclaves. It may well make things worse going forward. You can only hand out a beating if you are prepared to patrol the place on a regular basis; that is not going to happen.

Only real solution is to catch them and fine them and take it out of their wages or cut their welfare payments if they refuse to pay. The justice system is a joke; it's not going to change as so many solicitors live off it and judges are not going to shoot the golden goose that they themselves lived off.