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SFC Final - Dublin v Mayo - *Read Mod Note in post #1 & #1393*

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  • #1562
    TCDStudent1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭TCDStudent1


    km79 wrote: »
    Here is an interesting question .........lets just say that Keegan and Connolly go at it early again the next day and both get the line . Which set of supporters are happier ?
    To be honest I won't be.........Connolly has done damn all against us any game (and in most AI semis and finals he has played ) and Keegan is a massive leader for us
    I know a lot of people will just assume that it would benefit mayo but I'd disagree

    Keegan is more important to Mayo than Connolly is to Dublin.


  • #1563
    Peist2007
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Peist2007


    TCDStudent1 wrote: »
    Keegan is more important to Mayo than Connolly is to Dublin.

    Connolly has a pair of balls though and will shoulder responsibility. Mannion, Rock etc will not.


  • #1564
    km79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,530 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Peist2007 wrote: »
    Connolly has a pair of balls though and will shoulder responsibility. Mannion, Rock etc will not.

    Fair point too


  • #1565
    Peist2007
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Peist2007


    We should have another argument over who the best freetaker is between O'Connor and Rock. I saw clear evidence of a winner on that front yesterday.


  • #1566
    Past30Now
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭Past30Now


    Peist2007 wrote: »
    We should have another argument over who the best freetaker is between O'Connor and Rock. I saw clear evidence of a winner on that front yesterday.

    Agree, but wait a fortnight, and we can make a final judgement.:D


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  • #1567
    TCDStudent1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭TCDStudent1


    Peist2007 wrote: »
    Connolly has a pair of balls though and will shoulder responsibility. Mannion, Rock etc will not.

    Rock was very poor yesterday but in fairness to him, he didnt go missing. He scored a good point from play in the 2nd half at an important time. That wasnt easy considering he was having a poor match.

    There was debate on here yesterday about Connolly opting to shoot from that sideline. At the time, I thought "What is he doing? Keep possession!". However, watching it back last night, Dublin were really struggling to hold onto the ball which is what led to the ball trickling over the sideline. I can see more logic in Connolly going for the shot now. I still believe that they should have held onto possession but I can see where Connolly was coming from too.


  • #1568
    FullBack Jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭FullBack Jam


    Stoner wrote: »
    The same Diarmuid who broke Rory O'Carrolls nose in the first game off the ball caught on camera but played both games?

    Cooper and SOS were at it SOS reacted and threw him to the ground and got sent off. That's SOS fault Cooper did not run to the ref

    McCarthy has himself to blame for getting his card today but nobody played up to the ref for SOSs card last year that was his own fault all Cooper did was push him

    Calm down with the breaking players legs over reaction. Have a look at Johnny Coopers face after the 2013 game he gets no change from Mayo. As discussed Diarmiud is no angel and nobody tried to break anyone's legs or neck as mentioned by another poster

    No mention of Boyle staying on the field either with his antics today and the body check on John Small only getting a yellow he was subbed straight after it the Mayo line knew he was blessed to still be on the pitch if you want to talk about a mouthy players like Cooper check out Boyle he spent the day in people's faces again and running in on any controversy he could swinging out of players looking to start fights

    Believe me whatever you feel about Cooper you have a beauty in Boyle in your own team. So if the Mayo lads need grinds Boyle can teach them.

    No it wasn't.


  • #1569
    Stoner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    flasher0030 wrote:
    No it wasn't.


    What do you mean.?


  • #1570
    Peist2007
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Peist2007


    TCDStudent1 wrote: »
    Rock was very poor yesterday but in fairness to him, he didnt go missing. He scored a good point from play in the 2nd half at an important time. That wasnt easy considering he was having a poor match.

    There was debate on here yesterday about Connolly opting to shoot from that sideline. At the time, I thought "What is he doing? Keep possession!". However, watching it back last night, Dublin were really struggling to hold onto the ball which is what led to the ball trickling over the sideline. I can see more logic in Connolly going for the shot now. I still believe that they should have held onto possession but I can see where Connolly was coming from too.

    Rock was on the pitch to kick over frees. He cacked the pants.

    Connolly had lost the head by the time the sideline happened. His biggest flaw and, given his age, something he is not going to grow out of.


  • #1571
    Gael85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,488 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Stoner wrote: »
    What do you mean.?

    It was Cillian O'Connor who broke Rory's nose


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  • #1572
    km79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,530 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Stoner wrote: »
    What do you mean.?

    He means Diarmuid O Connor did not break O Carrolls nose last year as he did not


  • #1573
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 55,277 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Dublin were rubbish yet still ended up only seconds away from winning the game anyway. When you're the underdog you have to be taking any chance that's given to you but Mayo weren't good enough to take advantage.

    Hard to see Dublin playing as badly twice in a row, think Mayo will regret leaving it behind them yesterday.


  • #1574
    Peist2007
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Peist2007


    awec wrote: »
    Dublin were rubbish yet still ended up only seconds away from winning the game anyway. When you're the underdog you have to be taking any chance that's given to you but Mayo weren't good enough to take advantage.

    Hard to see Dublin playing as badly twice in a row, think Mayo will regret leaving it behind them yesterday.

    What are you on about? Dublin were handed a six point headstart with two utterly freak goals. For Mayo to come back and get a draw was an epic effort.


  • #1575
    km79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,530 ✭✭✭✭km79


    awec wrote: »
    Dublin were rubbish yet still ended up only seconds away from winning the game anyway. When you're the underdog you have to be taking any chance that's given to you but Mayo weren't good enough to take advantage.

    Hard to see Dublin playing as badly twice in a row, think Mayo will regret leaving it behind them yesterday.
    If a team heads into injury time 3 points up and fails to win then I believe that team has left it behind them. Not the team who fights back.
    I'm seeing this Diblin can't play as badly again line everywhere . Mayo made them play badly like they made Tyrone okay badly. Forcing lots of shots from poor positions and wides. Mayo will do that again and hopefully improve attacking wise. Plenty of room for improvement there ........


  • #1576
    Stoner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    Gael85 wrote:
    It was Cillian O'Connor who broke Rory's nose

    Sorry . I was convinced it Diarmuid


  • #1577
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 55,277 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Peist2007 wrote: »
    What are you on about? Dublin were handed a six point headstart with two utterly freak goals. For Mayo to come back and get a draw was an epic effort.

    Aye, came back and all that (no medals for that though) but at the end of the day Dublin were gash and Mayo wasted the best opportunity they're likely to get to beat them.


  • #1578
    AGC
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭AGC


    Weepsie wrote: »
    He clearly punched him

    Funny looking punch


  • #1579
    shinny
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭shinny


    Peist2007 wrote: »
    What are you on about? Dublin were handed a six point headstart with two utterly freak goals. For Mayo to come back and get a draw was an epic effort.

    Applying pressure so your opposition score own goals is hardly having it handed to you.

    Dublin won't make the same mistake twice. It was right there for Mayo to take and they didn't.


  • #1580
    Peist2007
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Peist2007


    awec wrote: »
    Aye, came back and all that (no medals for that though) but at the end of the day Dublin were gash and Mayo wasted the best opportunity they're likely to get to beat them.

    Yes but your comment would make it sound like Mayo were 6 up and threw a chance away. Not the case at all. Being handed 6 points in an all ireland is absolutely huge.

    As for Dublin, they were gash. But that was down to Mayo.


  • #1581
    Peist2007
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Peist2007


    km79 wrote: »
    If a team heads into injury time 3 points up and fails to win then I believe that team has left it behind them. Not the team who fights back.
    I'm seeing this Diblin can't play as badly again line everywhere . Mayo made them play badly like they made Tyrone okay badly. Forcing lots of shots from poor positions and wides. Mayo will do that again and hopefully improve attacking wise. Plenty of room for improvement there ........

    Exactly. I'm loving this "we'll never be as bad again" talk. Ignoring what was in front of their eyes. Perfect.


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  • #1582
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 55,277 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    km79 wrote: »
    If a team heads into injury time 3 points up and fails to win then I believe that team has left it behind them. Not the team who fights back.
    I'm seeing this Diblin can't play as badly again line everywhere . Mayo made them play badly like they made Tyrone okay badly. Forcing lots of shots from poor positions and wides. Mayo will do that again and hopefully improve attacking wise. Plenty of room for improvement there ........

    Mayo can improve all they want but if Dublin play near their best they'll win. That's the problem for Mayo, they need Dublin to not get their game going.

    They'll be doing a rain dance every day for the next two weeks out west.


  • #1583
    Grudaire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭Grudaire


    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    I'd prefer to be talking about how well/poor lad's on both sides played rather than this he did this and he did that craic.

    Me too, just that there wasn't much football played yesterday :pac:

    Agree that Andrews made a strong argument for inclusion, but he was quieter in the second half. Brogan was very quiet.

    Most disappointing (for both sides) was decision making in front of the posts. Dublin could have taken a few early fisted points instead of aiming for goal.

    Worse still when they had a straightforward shot they milled it wide. Cooper was one example of this, another day it would have sailed over the bar.


  • #1584
    Peist2007
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Peist2007


    shinny wrote: »
    Applying pressure so your opposition score own goals is hardly having it handed to you.

    Dublin won't make the same mistake twice. It was right there for Mayo to take and they didn't.

    Dropping a ball onto the foot of a player running in the opposite direction and seeing it bend inside the post for an own goal? A ball going towards the sideline hitting the standing leg of a player and going into the net?

    The Dubs werent let play yesterday because they were up against a very good team who tactically set up perfectly.


  • #1585
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 55,277 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Peist2007 wrote: »
    Dropping a ball onto the foot of a player running in the opposite direction and seeing it bend inside the post for an own goal? A ball going towards the sideline hitting the standing leg of a player and going into the net?

    The Dubs werent let play yesterday because they were up against a very good team who tactically set up perfectly.

    Looked more like the rain to me, to be honest, but I am no expert.

    Looked like Dublin didn't have a game plan prepared for that weather.


  • #1586
    Past30Now
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭Past30Now


    Peist2007 wrote: »
    Dropping a ball onto the foot of a player running in the opposite direction and seeing it bend inside the post for an own goal? A ball going towards the sideline hitting the standing leg of a player and going into the net?

    The Dubs werent let play yesterday because they were up against a very good team who tactically set up perfectly.

    The first one was a fluke, Brogan mi**** it. The second goal was different. The ball from Connolly was brilliant, and should have resulted in a goal. The handling from Rock was "gash". He should have scored himself.


  • #1587
    km79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,530 ✭✭✭✭km79


    awec wrote: »
    Mayo can improve all they want but if Dublin play near their best they'll win. That's the problem for Mayo, they need Dublin to not get their game going.

    They'll be doing a rain dance every day for the next two weeks out west.

    If dublin are let play their best
    If Dubkin are let get their game going
    Ya would swear mayo have no effect on whether Dubkin will play well or not
    As for the weather ..........I think it affected both teams equally. Aidan o Shea and Andy Moran in the first half alone spilled greasy ball when one one after catching high balls in


  • #1588
    Past30Now
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭Past30Now


    Past30Now wrote: »
    The first one was a fluke, Brogan mi**** it. The second goal was different. The ball from Connolly was brilliant, and should have resulted in a goal. The handling from Rock was "gash". He should have scored himself.

    miss hit missing an s causes mi****


  • #1589
    Blud
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭Blud


    awec wrote: »
    Mayo can improve all they want but if Dublin play near their best they'll win. That's the problem for Mayo, they need Dublin to not get their game going.

    They'll be doing a rain dance every day for the next two weeks out west.

    Jesus. The arrogance beggars belief.

    Did you watch the game yesterday? Did you think that everything going on was just Dublin not playing well, or do you think that the Mayo backs are actually alright? You are aware that Dublin's forwards haven't been scoring much all year, right? Yesterday wasn't exactly anything different, and add in the fact that they were up against the best set of backs that they could play in the country, and you'd have to fancy more of the same on Saturday week.

    And then throw in the idea that we're praying for rain in Mayo, ah yeah of course, the conditions didn't suit Dublin. Poor Dublin. I'd remind you that AOS and Moran made a lot of ball stick in the full forward line yesterday, and a dry day would reap bigger rewards. Dublin didn't even kick the ball into the full forward line yesterday, content to have Kilkenny pretending he was some sort of playmaking genius by going nowhere.

    I'm hoping you know more about rugby.


  • #1590
    Peist2007
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Peist2007


    awec wrote: »
    Looked more like the rain to me, to be honest, but I am no expert.

    Looked like Dublin didn't have a game plan prepared for that weather.

    Ah stop, the best prepared team of all time didnt foresee any rain. In Ireland. In September. You listening to yourself?


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  • #1591
    jon1981
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭jon1981


    awec wrote: »
    Looked more like the rain to me, to be honest, but I am no expert.

    Looked like Dublin didn't have a game plan prepared for that weather.

    I think it was more than the rain to be honest. Though questions had to be asked, why were the Dublin forwards slipping and sliding all over the ground? Blades?

    The individual decision making yesterday was poor. There were opportunities to take easy points, fisting over. On two occasions Rock was unmarked in the box waiting for a pass and instead a shot was ballooned wide.

    Rock was missing everything! We should have had more points there.

    I agree Mayo turned up and done alot right, not a perfect game but near perfect. They prevented the Dublin forward line scoring while maintaining an attacking gameplan without the need of a blanket defence , I'd call that a good Mayo performance, was it their best performance? We'll see.

    It can only get better for the Dublin team, surely?!


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