The accelerating fall in Sinn Féin support

you have a point about Michelle - but it’s actually easy to shine when your opposite is some dreary DUP type Emma Little - but yeah she’s way ahead of Mary Lou , probably because she’s got the power - she can’t afford to be seen to be critical now but she has a lot of flex and skills - Mary Lou only knows how to play it one way

I'm not a fan, or supporter of any Government party, as I believe they have all just fallen to the left, leaving some nut-job ultra nationalists naked on the right which I could never even consider voting for.

MLMD is such a whinge-bag though. Even when not talking about the Government, she is whining and it's difficult to listen to her. All Politicians, male and female get abuse, so put away the gender card for a second and realise that the term Karen is actually very apt for MLMD.

Search it on Google and you get this at the top.

Karen

Slang:

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Karen is a term used as slang typically for a middle-class white American woman who is perceived as entitled or excessively demanding. The term is often portrayed in memes depicting middle-class white women who "use their white and class privilege to demand their own way". Wikipedia

And this image

Giving an interview on the housing crisis 😂

Really going to go use that as a defence when FG, FF and the other partied have all done the same.

AAh he..er ! Now that is one I agree with being blocked .

That planning was taken to court after being accepted by ABP , when they were going through their recent 'troubles ' , after being objected to and refused permission by DCC's planning officer on the basis of an 18 storey tower block included in the development ... on Clonliffe Road .…come on !

On an old street in the middle of a whole area of protected structures !

Nowhere in the city has a tower block of that size been accepted. Even Johnny Ronan has been fighting for years to build one amongst other tall buildings . In the centre of the city .

"Poor" developer Hines.... I don't think so.... will get permission if he goes back and gets rid of that massive tower block . Bloody chancer . EIGHTEEN STOREYS !

Yes we need housing and we need apartment blocks , am all for it.

But greedy developers do what greedy developers do without restrictions, and next thing be Towers. Everywhere . Low quality , minimal amenity housing is not good and is not the answer to our housing crisis .

Good quality medium rise, well built , apartment blocks like those on Griffith Ave are the way to go .

Not very nice?

It's misogynist BS, done by types who think women should smile more and be agreeable.

I don't like MLs politics. But calling her names for doing her freaking job is just rude.

Sinn Fein and Mary Lou object everything. It doesn't matter location, type or anything. Just reject.

They have been doing it for years.

Remember Sinn Fein took over DCC in 2014, promised more social units, in 2019 when they left DCC had less units than in 2014.

Sinn Fein have spent years, 10+, making the housing crisis worse and worse when they have had the chance. Name a construction site and I am sure you will find at some stage a SF TD or councillor has loaded a rejection against it. Even if they don't block it they keep it stuck in court for years driving up the price.

This thread is about Mary Lou, she is the one rejecting yet will be on TV anytime soon going on about housing. About time as I said a few people woke up, others are more than happy with Sinn Fein rejecting housing once they are not the ones left lying on the street.

Mary Lou thread 🤔

"guff" 😂

They have no coherent plan on anything, they "flip flop" around trying to guess what might get some likes.

And are paying for it but what's that got to with the poster calling her a Karen? She is there to call out the government whether you like it or not that's her job which she hasn't done well. Would you be saying the same if it was a FG or FG leader in opposition?

I already posted on this thread I am not calling her a "Karen". I don't feel the need to sink to the level others do daily on these threads about TD's.

You are obsessed with dragging FF and FG into every thread. This has nothing to do with them.

I'm not obsessed I am asking whether it would be the same reaction if it was a FG or FF leader doing it instead of Mary Lou? I'd bet you would be singing their praises.

"It's not my area and it doesn't affect me , "would describe probably many others who are arguing that these high rise blocks be built in areas if Dublin that they don't rate or care about .

"Why should the lower middle to working class people of Clonliffe Road object to a massive tower over shadowing their little terraced houses ? How dare they object ?! Don't their children need housing, they should take whatever they get and be grateful ?!"

Eh ..no .

That's the problem really, somebody telling another person what they SHOULD accept . And I am sure that person telling them would not accept a tower like that next to them or as it happens also " in an area with protected structures" .

There would have been no problem with half that height or a mix but no the developer went to push in the highest tower in Ireland there . The developer was told there that the problem was just that extremely high , greedy ,tower.

No , I don't live in the area .

Yes , I am a northsider so I know the area .

Yes, North Dublin has apartments of more than medium rise going up everywhere around us and others built already and have not objected , precisely because there is a housing crisis .

But this one , not only for the residents of Clonliffe Road, ( many of whom wanted the rest of the apartments , in fact ) , but also The DCC planner , was a Tower Too Far .

There is a planning system which goes too slowly I agree but there are some very good reasons why some developments don't get granted .

This is one of those .

Do people actually vote based on the leaders of a party? I would have thought policies and local representatives would be much more important

Absolutely they do.

Most voters wouldn't know much about their locals reps, even TDs, let alone policy details.

People vote based on what they hear on the radio while commuting, or on Joe Duffy, or see on the 6.1 news while having their tea. Or increasingly, of course, on social media. All that makes the figurehead more important than ever. He or She can make or break a voter's decision and so just like in the UK, our politics has become more presidential, like it or not.

I always thought FG made the wrong decision selecting Varadkar over Coveney in '17, so divisive a figure was he, and I think SF are beginning to suffer similarly with Mary Lou at the helm, albeit that she is divisive for different reasons. Michelle O'Neill is SFs best asset and Mary Lou looks like yesterday's woman up against her, and I think voters in the Republic are making their judgements based somewhat on that dynamic.

A less than spectacular election day for SF on 7th June, and Mary Lou may well have to keep an eye out for certain ambitious TDs sharpening their armalites.

Bingo, no matter what is planned the same nimbys come out moaning

In this scenario it is a TD and someone living in Foxrock blocking the apartments.

The apartments could provide housing for the hospitals in the area, for the uni's etc etc

Ahh nah, f**k the nurses and Doctors, sure why do we need them. Or the teachers for the Unis The same people will be on cryin the nurses and doctors have no space to live in Dublin

After all its "EIGHTEEN STOREY" 😂

Train station nearly a direct walk across the road, with major bus routes. Plenty of shops/restaurants etc in the area.

It's the perfect location for high rise. People as well living in them won't have a massive need for a car becuase they would be close to work if in the hospital, even if further in city etc they have excellent public transport lnks

F**king disgrace these are getting blocked.
Next year when students can't get a spot the people that blocked it will be crying

The leader of the opposition shouldn't be allowed to block it. She is doing it for political purposes, the worse the housing crisis is, the better for Sinn Fein. As I said they have been doing it for 10 years now. Disgraceful that anyone would make excuses for what they are at

Did you decide yourself to call her "Karen McDonald" but though it would be better to say the "kids" made it up so you wouldn't sound like a 12 year old?

Shes always come across as particularly dislikeable but it seems to be ramped up the last year or so.

I'd be willing to overlook that if her her party were a viable alternative but its apparent to a growing number of people that they're not.

It's a real damning indictment that there is such anger with the present government but the main opposition just aren't an option.

Their refusal to comment on the immigration situation in particular has been their downfall,its also the reason therell be a record number of independents in the next election.

The emperors cloths have fallen off alright. How an opposition party to the current shower could be falling in support is crazy. I suspect poster above is right though. They are terrified they might actually have to govern, so are scuttling their own party for the upcoming election.

Uninspiring leader of a single issue party whose stock in trade is mud slinging.

Rarely do I hear anything out of her that is not negative or a dig at someone else. Tiresome.

Not only did I think it was funny. I thought it was totally on the money too.

People tend to vote for the party, SF had a number of very poor candidates in the last election who didn't expect to get in, in one particularly egregious example, Violet Anne-Wynne built up a large rent arrears and was an anti-vaxxer, she resigned from the party mid-term.

SFs policy is just one big moan. It’s all they have ever offered. No intention whatsoever of leading and governing

never got this. There’s holding to account and there is just plain obstruction. Opposition ALL the time should never ever be seen as good, the way it should be, natural way. Best way for people to govern and live is by collaboration. We have it arse ways. It’s really just one big game of us against them ALL the time.. and society cannot benefit from this