The accelerating fall in Sinn Féin support

Clo-Clo

The Ditch, the most corrupt and biased media source in Ireland, is doing a bit of back tracking.

They ran a story, contacted the Gardai for comment and published 3 mins after contacting not giving them time to comment

The Garda and some seem to claim the posted it as declined to comment, but The trustworthy Ditch crew said they posted article as “contacted to comment”

Between Paddy’s recent ranting and raving daily on tiwttrr, now the Ditch reminding everyone how corrupt they are, it’s seems everyone aligned with Sinn Fein are losing the run of themselves because they are down in polls

Hilarious to watch

markodaly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121942631#Comment_121942631

...and what happens if a shed load of transfers go to SF!

SF historically have never been transfer-friendly, so why would it start now? Its unlikely.

You admit SF are crap, but are supporting them anyway..

That says a lot.

markodaly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121948275#Comment_121948275

The Ditch are a story away from being taken to the cleaners.

They will publish the wrong thing, piss off the wrong person and each and everyone of their 'journalists' will be up in court.

Paddy might bail them out but given his own empire is in free fall, he might not have deep pockets as people think.

Cyrus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121948725#Comment_121948725

in court again you mean, most of them have had their issues with the law before. a bit like their benefactor.

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121948725#Comment_121948725

Ahh they are a shame and getting caught out more & more now. THis is just the latest.

They are the most corrupt and biased media in Ireland, not sure anyone can even argue against that

ToweringPerformance

I'll be voting any independent who is anti mass immigration that runs in my area. If none run i'll spoil my vote as a protest as the rest are all in the same boat. I've gone from voting for SF every election over the last 25 odd years to them being the very last choice if a gun was put to my head (or kneecaps it being SF) tbh.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121947545#Comment_121947545

Paul Donnelly does a lot of work around Ongar and Corduff. Protecting his vote, I have no doubt he will get in.

Dick phelan

If they run a candidate in my area then Aontu has my vote. Don't agree with everything they stand for but at least they are saying something about mass immigration and the social justice crusade being followed by our current major parties. If not them, then a like-minded IND. If neither option is available a spoiled vote will be my 3rd choice.

Oscar_Madison

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121947545#Comment_121947545

many back benchers are deeply rooted in their constituencies - some re-elected decade after decade - you need a solid base to vote for you and even then that can go wrong such as we saw with FF back in the 2000s - but leaving exceptional times aside hard to get re elected after whatever prompted the votes last time around without a solid base- an ideology won’t cut it second time around

Sheep breeder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121950120#Comment_121950120

the younger people who have come of age since the last election don’t have much interest in politics any more, they are worried about college, accommodation, cost of living and travel expenses, getting a job and down the road about housing and future life, most couldn’t tell who the local TDs are and don’t care about deep rooted constituency. The old family thing is daddy voted blue shirt and we all have to vote the same is gone,

pureza

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121949778#Comment_121949778

They're anti abortion,anti divorce,anti gay marriage amongst other things,are you OK with that ?

Peadar left Sinn Féin and set up Aontu due to the abortion issue,he's not a fan of female reproductive rights

L1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121949124#Comment_121949124

Donnelly took three elections to become a councillor (including losing his seat after being co-opted) and six elections to become a TD. Rather the non-poster-child when SF attack people who lose elections.

His local vote is far from secure, despite decades of doing work.

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121951611#Comment_121951611

If they don't have much interest in politics then why would they worry about a load of political topics like accomodation etc?

In reality the TD is now more famous than a lot of the celebs in RTE. The amount of coverage across social media is odd to say the least. The "younger people" will know more than years ago when you wouldn't see a TD from one election to another.

Maybe they won't follow the "we are XYZ party voters" but the rest of the post is totally incorrect and younger people now have more knowledge and information on politics than we had even 10 years ago

Sheep breeder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121952188#Comment_121952188

The younger people are too busy with life and trying to get by and looking forward, how many young people could name the TDs in their constituency and the political parties bar the 3 or 4 of the top figureheads who could name any of the others, or name all the government ministers, social media targets what people are looking at Tik Tok doesn’t put up stuff that you’re not interested in on the feed or Facebook doesn’t suggests friends with TDs if your following music or farming etc, it’s about what interests your viewing daily. As for the minds of young people there is two first time voters in this house and lots of their friends passing through here and haven’t heard any of them talking about politics. Their interests are sport, fashion, social, etc.

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121952280#Comment_121952280

The younger population have better access and get targeted more by parties now than ever. They have more information than ever on parties.

You name a list of political topics and now jumped to a list of non political 😂 to cover up the initial mistake.

Trying to say they are too busy with life, what do you think everyone else is up to?

Dick phelan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121951647#Comment_121951647

Well I'm personally against abortion. However all the things you listed were decided by referendum, They aren't going to change regardless of Aontu being in power. Those issues are settled, what has not been settled and is still an issue are things like our immigration policy, housing strategy, healthcare etc. I honestly don't care what their position on gay marriage or divorce is because we both know they aren't changing anyway.

celt262

SF used social media brilliantly for the last election and no doubt gained many new voters. These days anything they post is getting very negative attention which will no doubt have a effect at the next election.

Augme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121952402#Comment_121952402

Abortion hasn't necessarily been settled. There's nothing stop a party removing the legilsation around abortion or brining in legilsation to make it illegal or tightening the current provisions. Aontu have made it clear one of their main aims is stop abortions and if in government that's what they'd try and do.

Abortion is staying as is. Not a hope we are going back to the dark days.

Charles Babbage

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121952536#Comment_121952536

Indeed, the likes of Harris regards the number of abortions as a performance metric.

combat14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121952474#Comment_121952474

the reality is if aontu or other pro irish pro housing party gets in - they will be propped up with FF / SF / Independents so abortion is not going to change that is only scare mongering

what will change is a greater emphasis on building badly needed houses for irish citizens and protecting irish resources from international vulture funds

Augme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121952578#Comment_121952578

Pointing out the parties desired position on abortion isn't scaremongering. They want to get rid of it and it is possible fro any party to do that. Those are simply facts.

Also, the last time around the majority of FF TDs were against abortion. Who knows what a coalition of Aontu and FF would try and do to current abortion laws.

BlueSkyDreams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121952578#Comment_121952578

Vulture Funds is a hyperbolic term. Remember that the vast majority of housing being built across the state is directly funded by investment funds.

Without investment funds, our new housing completions would drop off a cliff...so be careful what you wish for.

This is the main reason why a SF led govt would see a fall in new home completions, not an increase - because they would lock out the essential financing from investment funds that is hugely relied on, in order to deliver our 30k+ new homes each year.

mollser

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121952445#Comment_121952445

I'm no fan of social media, but it is quite entertaining seeing every single SF post get trashed. The responses to MLMD's latest glorifying a child killer is really quite something 😆. They're fooked in the election, I suspect they'll be 3rd most popular by that stage

combat14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121952907#Comment_121952907

oh the investment funds are welcome to build and build

just not buy up every scrap of already completed home or apartment to the exclusion of irish citizens

padd b1975

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121951653#Comment_121951653

Not great when you consider his main rival for the looney vote is Ruth Coppinger.

blanch152

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121952996#Comment_121952996

MLMD has no choice in such matters. The instructions from Belfast are clear, celebrate every single volunteer whether they killed women, children or gardai (oh, except for that fella that beat his wife). She doesn't dare go against instruction.

maccored

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121952996#Comment_121952996

starting checking out some of those accounts doing the responding. You'll usually find they were never SF fans in the first place. I'd prefer to see SF get votes from people who believe in them, than a large support that will then just fall away (which is what we are seeing) but I dont think the responses reflect the reality. plenty of people - when they see the anti foreigner, close the borders, irish for the irish type responses - just dont post because some dickhead will try to bully them for their opinion.

I wouldnt be counting them out of the next government as yet - though I would prefer they didnt get in that go in with FF.

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121954725#Comment_121954725

You seem to be treating SF as a cult rather than a political party, there's no path to power without FF, so you're really saying you don't want SF in power again and want a new leader (as MLM won't survive another failed election).

ToweringPerformance

Small example of what SF is getting on the doorsteps. They are dreaming if they thinking of government after the next election. Working class people now see through them and their policies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtinAfgkkxQ