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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • #13682
    SupplyandDemandZone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭SupplyandDemandZone


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118037977#Comment_118037977

    They lied because we are the most docile complient population of any democracy in Europe and they know it.



  • #13683
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,263 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038382#Comment_118038382

    Yep

    I just dont know anymore and what's the point living like this watching the rest of the world go by, Emigration is not an option for everyone sadly



  • #13684
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038382#Comment_118038382

    How did they lie? I'm waiting on PTH2009 to respond as he was the first to say it but when challenged on anything he types, he ignores it.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, And So I Watch You From Afar



  • #13685
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,370 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038420#Comment_118038420

    People can put up stuff without qualifying what they meant. This isn't a court of law.



  • #13686
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,263 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Not worth it anymore

    Here we go

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/1018/1254311-world-covid-update/



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  • #13687
    thebronze14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 705 ✭✭✭thebronze14


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118037577#Comment_118037577

    Any trial events have been thoroughly pointless so far...Lip service just. Remember the pig pen gigs😂

    I find solace on here in the fact the majority of people haven't lost their minds! An absolute disgrace that everything isn't going to open fully on Friday. Getting married (registry part, ceremony after 2 postponements next summer) Friday week. Just be family at it. Looks like it will be a meal and then back to the house for cans if places don't open later!



  • #13688
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,370 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    The thing about night clubs is that younger people are already socialising and having house parties, going to pubs.

    I doubt the opening the clubs will make much difference.



  • #13689
    SupplyandDemandZone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭SupplyandDemandZone


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038420#Comment_118038420

    They lied when they put the blame on the unvaccinated

    It's not the fault of the unvaccinated the health system is a shambles for the last few decades.

    We've the most vaccinated population on planet earth per capita and yet here are again been fed more lies.



  • #13690
    castletownman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,169 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038368#Comment_118038368

    No because the obese not striving to lose weight aren't like the anti-vaxxers being stubborn to get the jab and thus ruining it for everyone else.



  • #13691
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,263 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038461#Comment_118038461

    For me it's more of having the option to go go a nightclub/late bar

    (So which of the usual suspects are going to abuse me and call me Mr no mates etc ie house parties)



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  • #13692
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038461#Comment_118038461

    Pretty much it yeah, like if I'm out with mates even this weekend coming, the house parties are already lined up, who's going where etc. It's been going on throughout



  • #13693
    bear1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,900 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038018#Comment_118038018

    Like I said, I'm using very loose terms here.

    Out of everything they could do, the passes are the least worse.

    It doesn't impact me no, but that doesn't mean to say that those that can't be vaccinated or who don't want to be vaccinated should be effectively banned from entering a pub.

    If they made antigen testing a normal thing for the time period we'd have the best of both worlds but I bet we won't see that for a while.

    Personally, do away with all this **** and let's get on with it.



  • #13694
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038489#Comment_118038489

    Where/when did they blame the unvaccinated?

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, And So I Watch You From Afar



  • #13695
    SupplyandDemandZone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭SupplyandDemandZone


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038553#Comment_118038553

    Nearly every time i hear them either on the TV or Radio. Funny how they never blame the rubbish health system they are supposed to manage. Strange that right.



  • #13696
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038573#Comment_118038573

    I haven't heard them on the TV or Radio. How are they blaming the unvaccinated? What are they saying?

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, And So I Watch You From Afar



  • #13697
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,943 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038588#Comment_118038588

    You need to turn it on. Try the remote, there is usually a button at the top right or left.



  • #13698
    shesty
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,917 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    They are constantly going on about the numbers unvaccinated lately and how they are solely responsible for ICU numbers, and as a knock on, how it will be their fault things don't open fully.That is basically the message coming across loudly.I think I saw them being described yesterday as "low hanging fruit" by a Minister....basically it is easier to chase the 10% or so that aren't vaccinated than it is do anything with the health system or well, anything else.If they knew anything about statistics and bell curves, they would realise it is extremely unlikely that 10% will ever be vaccinated .They might get it to 8%, with a huge drive behind it, but that's as good as it will likely get.It's just easier to ignore that state of the Health System and do that.Apparently.



  • #13699
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038634#Comment_118038634

    They may talk about the numbers of unvaccinated but they don't state that they are solely responsible for ICU numbers. Who's lying again?

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, And So I Watch You From Afar



  • #13700
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038613#Comment_118038613

    I certainly don't need to turn it on. I think that's the problem with many on this thread. They're sucking up everything that media is saying and then adding to it themselves.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, And So I Watch You From Afar



  • #13701
    shesty
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,917 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    Who's lying?I don't think we are talking about the same thing.

    Leo did say at the weekend that if everyone was vaccinated there would only be so many people in ICU. (Can't remember the number).I thought it was a very simplistic interpretation of things myself.

    The message coming from them loud and clear is get vaccinated.I don't care who is or isn't vaccinated, what I care about is that it has become a new obsession for our politicians et al, another distraction from the state of the Health System being the problem.



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  • #13702
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038667#Comment_118038667

    He's not lying though.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, And So I Watch You From Afar



  • #13703
    shesty
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,917 Mod ✭✭✭✭shesty


    Where did I ever mention lying!



  • #13704
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,827 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038461#Comment_118038461

    Agreed hence my argument that they should open



  • #13705
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    "No risks to be taken" the words of RTE's Micheal Lehane after NPHET (predictably) calling for little or no easing of restrictions to the govt this evening. A very sad state of affairs, our broken health service after years of empty promises and underinvestment in our ICU and bed capacity really catching up on us. Shame on our political leaders, successive governments ,the dept of health and the HSE.



  • #13706
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038687#Comment_118038687

    You didn't. Your post happened to be in the middle of a chain of posts were I'm trying to find out from two posters how/when the government lied. One said it was down to them lying that it's down to the unvaccinated. You then posted along the same lines.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, And So I Watch You From Afar



  • #13707
    Parachutes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭Parachutes


    NPHET have an ulterior motive when it comes to pubs and clubs. Their remit is public health and they take a dim view towards alcohol. Call me a conspiracy theorist if you want but I’d say they are trying to destroy Ireland’s drinking culture.



  • #13708
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    A number of posts deleted. If you really do struggle to post in a civil manner then please do not post at all



  • #13709
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038773#Comment_118038773

    I disagree. If they'd wanted to do that, they'd have banned alcohol sales altogether. That's what they did in South Africa.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, And So I Watch You From Afar



  • #13710
    darconio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 935 ✭✭✭darconio


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038673#Comment_118038673

    Varadkar pushes for ‘very extensive booster programme’ as he said if everyone was fully vaccinated there would be 25 people in ICU - Independent.ie

    What he says in that article is that: removing the unvaccinated from the equation we could have a lower number of people in ICU. He also said that 25 fully vaccinated in ICU is acceptable but having 45 unvaccinated (70 - 25) is the real elephant in the room. We are talking about an European nation that can't deal with 70 icu bed occupied. Based on the statistic/projection he is not lying but he is certainly shifting the blame for not reopening to that bunch of people not vaccinated (you and me included). He is also pushing for the booster so another step to mass population control



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  • #13711
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,682 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038878#Comment_118038878

    I agree with everything except the last line.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, And So I Watch You From Afar



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