Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Real Donald Trump

It's all about the anti-booster crowd now 😅

CruelSummer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118037953#Comment_118037953

Anyone who wants a booster should absolutely go and get it. Should people be excluded from society if they don't? Do you agree with that?

PTH2009

The government lied to us and are going to get away with it

As stated earlier by someone there's no real opposition to this farce

bear1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118037977#Comment_118037977

And there won't be. The only way would be protesting, 10 people outside the dail won't make a **** load of sense but like I said before, we are too docile a people.

Besides, I'm going to wait and see what they come up with. Masks and the pass would be the only ones in my mind that make sense. Introducing distancing again would be stupid.

I use makes sense very very loosely

darconio

@AliasNeeded "Although given the level of buyer’s remorse surrounding the first two vaccine shots from people who only took it to keep said societal privileges and not for any medical reason, I suspect that uptake of the first round of booster vaccines will not come close to 93%"

Don't despair, the population of this once glorious country, will surprise you once more with mass compliance. It's just a needle anyway, it's just 2 weeks, it's just a cert, it's just a mask, and on and on and on...

Rebelbrowser

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038018#Comment_118038018

All of your posts seem predicated on the idea that at the moment no one checks vaccine passes. Just to clarify that is absolutely not my experience. I'm in my forties so don't socialise a whole lot any more but I'd say 11 out of the 12 venues I have been in in Cork since late July checked my pass. I'm told second hand Dublin is similar. That's the two most populous parts of the State.

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118037977#Comment_118037977

Did they? How?

hotmail.com

The logic is that the restrictions that are in place now aren't enough.

Surely closing schools and construction is the sensible thing now to satisfy the covid misery fans?

shesty

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118037879#Comment_118037879

Yeah I only took it so "normal" could return.I mean it's not like we were given much choice -sure, we weren't browbeaten to the door of the vaccine centre but basically the only way we were ever going to get our lives back was to all get that vaccine!Not bothered about Covid, quite likely I already had it last year, pre-testing.

I get the flu vaccine because I basically do not have time to get sick.Not remotely bothered about the flu, but I would have neither the time now a chance to spend lying around recovering from it.That's why

bokale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038140#Comment_118038140

Yeah I'm the same. No interest in getting sick, but not worried about it or "living in fear" and have no issue with vaccines. They should have just called it something else other than vaccine.

Rebelbrowser

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038141#Comment_118038141

Fair enough, but ultimately it seems there is a different attitude where you socialise (though the age point you make viz checking is interesting).

Extending the cert requirement does mean, in my area, that unvaccinated will frequently not be able to go where their friends are and thus, whether people like it or not, a fair few will "cave in" and get the vaccine. It will also make many of us feel safer socialising. I personally feel safer (rightly, or perhaps wrongly) if I'm in an establishment that is checking passes. There seems little doubt that unvaccinated people spread covid (through being likely to get it and somewhat through spreading it more) more easily.

But I do accept that extending passes will only help a little in stopping the spread (though in a nightclub insisting on passes could stop a superspreader event). Clearly vaccinated people can and do spread the delta variant.

castletownman

I'm sure every pub in Ireland has someone who is barred from drinking it.

I know in my own town which has frequent Traveller funerals, the pubs shut their doors for the duration of the funeral.

A lot of pubs are over 21s, are they discriminating against teenagers?

"Not getting in with those runners lad".

Pubs should be allowed return to normal be damned, and refuse anyone entry, unvaccinated or not.

Richard Hillman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118037810#Comment_118037810

2 years in a row they messed it up over the summer with their overcautiousness.

They could have given us a spot of freedom over the summer last year when cases were in single digits. Nothing, not for Dublin at least.

This year when Boris Johnson was saying "If not now, when?", They stood off, went for the cautious route and made a bizarre date of October 22nd, miles away from the last date. Knowing full well, winter was about to kick in.

I mean, Tony Holohan was so confident that NPHET was not being disbanded that he took annual leave over the last couple of weeks just before NPHET was supposed to be disbanded. Not the week after NPHET was meant to be disbanded, the weeks before. NPHET were always going to be up and running post 22nd of October.

Another blow for the live entertainment industry https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021/1018/1254484-festival-postponed/

SupplyandDemandZone

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118037977#Comment_118037977

They lied because we are the most docile complient population of any democracy in Europe and they know it.

PTH2009

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038382#Comment_118038382

Yep

I just dont know anymore and what's the point living like this watching the rest of the world go by, Emigration is not an option for everyone sadly

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038382#Comment_118038382

How did they lie? I'm waiting on PTH2009 to respond as he was the first to say it but when challenged on anything he types, he ignores it.

hotmail.com

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038420#Comment_118038420

People can put up stuff without qualifying what they meant. This isn't a court of law.

PTH2009

Not worth it anymore

Here we go

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/1018/1254311-world-covid-update/

thebronze14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118037577#Comment_118037577

Any trial events have been thoroughly pointless so far...Lip service just. Remember the pig pen gigs😂

I find solace on here in the fact the majority of people haven't lost their minds! An absolute disgrace that everything isn't going to open fully on Friday. Getting married (registry part, ceremony after 2 postponements next summer) Friday week. Just be family at it. Looks like it will be a meal and then back to the house for cans if places don't open later!

hotmail.com

The thing about night clubs is that younger people are already socialising and having house parties, going to pubs.

I doubt the opening the clubs will make much difference.

SupplyandDemandZone

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038420#Comment_118038420

They lied when they put the blame on the unvaccinated

It's not the fault of the unvaccinated the health system is a shambles for the last few decades.

We've the most vaccinated population on planet earth per capita and yet here are again been fed more lies.

castletownman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038368#Comment_118038368

No because the obese not striving to lose weight aren't like the anti-vaxxers being stubborn to get the jab and thus ruining it for everyone else.

PTH2009

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038461#Comment_118038461

For me it's more of having the option to go go a nightclub/late bar

(So which of the usual suspects are going to abuse me and call me Mr no mates etc ie house parties)

stephenjmcd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038461#Comment_118038461

Pretty much it yeah, like if I'm out with mates even this weekend coming, the house parties are already lined up, who's going where etc. It's been going on throughout

bear1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038018#Comment_118038018

Like I said, I'm using very loose terms here.

Out of everything they could do, the passes are the least worse.

It doesn't impact me no, but that doesn't mean to say that those that can't be vaccinated or who don't want to be vaccinated should be effectively banned from entering a pub.

If they made antigen testing a normal thing for the time period we'd have the best of both worlds but I bet we won't see that for a while.

Personally, do away with all this **** and let's get on with it.

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038489#Comment_118038489

Where/when did they blame the unvaccinated?

SupplyandDemandZone

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038553#Comment_118038553

Nearly every time i hear them either on the TV or Radio. Funny how they never blame the rubbish health system they are supposed to manage. Strange that right.

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038573#Comment_118038573

I haven't heard them on the TV or Radio. How are they blaming the unvaccinated? What are they saying?

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118038588#Comment_118038588

You need to turn it on. Try the remote, there is usually a button at the top right or left.