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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Patsy167




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭dobman88




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,147 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    Assuming you're washing them at a high enough temperature, and with detergent, and assuming they are not very worn-out t-shirts, then the next thing to try something extra with them before the wash. People use a solution of water and white vinegar but if you take baking soda and use a small amount of water with it to create a kind of paste, and then apply that to areas where you think the sweat is hanging on, and then leave it for a while before doing a wash, you might find that helps.

    There are some t-shirts from the likes of Lululemon that have specific anti-odour treatments, but your average cotton t-shirt they're all going to be much the same, it's down to the individual and the washing process.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭the baby bull elephant


    Anyone have any idea how much the SSBs at Flyefit weigh?



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Honestly, you don’t smell as much as you think you do.


    Fresh sweat doesn’t smell that bad, it’s only stale unwashed sweat that stinks. People are way too worried about how they smell these days. You’re supposed to sweat


    Sleeveless cotton t shirts are your friend for exercise anyway.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wear antiperspirant, not deodorant. They serve different purposes and a remarkable amount of people don't know that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Patsy167


    SSB's range from 50-70lb depending on size and brand so your best bet is to check the Brand & model the next time you are in and then check online for the exact weight



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭the baby bull elephant



    Yeah unfortunately there are no markings on the bar to show what brand it is.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Why wear antiperspirant when you need to perspire? You should sweat during a HIIT session.

    they/them/theirs


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  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Fair point. But I'm not telling him to cover his body with it; just the small part that starts to smell bad easily for some people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 788 ✭✭✭markmoto


    fabric plays vital role for bad smell however if you had shower on the same day less likely you would have any bad smell.

    T



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Patsy167


    The original point made by the OP above seems to have been missed. The issue raised was with the T-Shirts, not anti-perspirant/deodrant. I've often had heavy cotton (think Fruit of the loom style) T-shirts that seemed to be impossible to get the smell out of, even after washing. The problem was particularly bad when using the cream/stick deodrants which acted as a magnet for the sweat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,654 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    They look like the Hit Fitness ones so 24kg, if that's the case.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Brid Hegarty


    I've a question about leg exercises. I was always under the impression that in order to get a balanced leg workout involving all muscles, that you would need to include the exercise as in the first image, in order to get the inner thighs. But funnily I can't think of any natural thing that you'd do that would involve these muscles. Not to mention that I can't think of any home exercise that would target them. Is there another way of targeting this part of the muscles?

    The hams of course are another. Are these muscles really used that much when cycling? How come you never feel pain (or DOMS) in your hamstrings in the same way you do with your quads during any form of general exercise? You only feel such if you target that muscle, as in the image below. Doesn't this imply that the hamstrings are typically under-exercised?

    Thank you



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,840 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Your first point, what if you wanted to crush a watermelon between your legs?

    hamstrings are used every time you bend over to pick something up



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭the baby bull elephant


    Your hip adductors (muscle in the first picture) are prime movers in the squat.


    Not every feels DOMs in the same way and they're not a huge sign of anything. If you ever pull or strain your hamstring you'll realise how they're used in so many movements.



  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Would just squatting build up those muscles to the point that they aren't a weak spot? For most people I mean.

    Since I've been working out at home with just a rack, leg day has felt very different to the gym.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,147 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    In general if you build up squat and deadlift variations I do think in practical terms it covers most of the bases. If you squat 1.5-2 times bodyweight are you really going to worry about a weak inner thigh?

    If a muscle group is lagging there are variations that you can use.

    However, it must be said that isolation work with machines has advantages, you still find it’s bread and butter for hypertrophy gurus for a reason.

    Ideally it’s both, not either / or.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭atilladehun


    I had some issues with my adductor so my trainer gave me variations of clams, leg raises and Copenhagen. They helped me. My leg definitely feels stronger and more stable.


    I suppose in the future I'll keep something in there to prevent recurrence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Last year i twanged a hamstring, anything beyond walking hurt, yet I could hop on a bike and cycle into wicklow and felt nothing, putting my foot down to stop at lights was the only thing.

    Some sideways running would be more practical than that first machine if up do any sort of outdoors running maybe a bit of band or mobility work, might help prevent groin strain

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Brid Hegarty


    I use a band for the outside leg muscles. I tried to do the inside muscles with band by tying it around a pole, but it's too difficult a setup. And there was a lot of hassle in tying and untying it all the time.

    But those cyclists must affectively have a strength imbalance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Cill94



    You don't need to target every single muscle individually. Vast majority of them can be hit with multi-joint exercises. On top of that, I don't know of any reason why you would need every muscle to be trained the same amount, unless that's your goal?



    Many of them do have a strength imbalance, as do most people. It's good to train your full body but it's not something I'd be concerned about from an injury perspective. Unless you plan on attempting some out-of-the-blue maximal hip adductions. 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,644 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    There is a PT here (possibly Transform?) that previously stated that cyclists (or former cyclists) are very prone to imbalances and tightness from spending hours and hours exercising in a fixed position. I'm only paraphrasing so can't remember the specifics.


    Also, with that picture of the lying leg curl for hamstrings... hamstrings are a group of muscles that are both responsible for knee flexion and for helping hip extension. So doing leg curls only helps with the knee flexion bit. If you are doing something isolation-ey for glutes, you might be hitting the hip extension hamstring parts, but it really depends on what you're doing.


    As someone else said, relying on machines to target every muscle is a difficult task. Learning how to use free weights and compound exercises means you're training movements, rather than individual muscles, and less likely to get imbalances.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,601 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    As above adductors and a small muscle group, but they are used in a lot of movements. Particularly initiating flexion and rotation.

    Hamstrings are knee flexion and hip extension. Walking, running, jumping, anything where you bend a knee or straighten your hip. I'm not sure why cycling is the benchmark. But the upward section of pedaling is knee flexion and hip extension. More important with clips.

    Cyclists do often have imbalances. Or another way, optimal strength strength development for cycling, could be very imbalanced generally.

    As for how to train them. Horse stance squats, horse stance push presses and loaded tailors pose are all adductor heavy exercises (and often used to strength adductors in order to do the splits).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    if you didnt want to over think it incorporating a bunch of Ben Patrick's (thekneesoertoesguy) exercises would cover a lot of bases, down to insanely simple exercises like walking backwards on a turned off treadmill as a good one for knee joint strength or Tib raises so you strengthen the smaller front muscles in your lower leg.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Brid Hegarty


    @Cill94 I don't know of any reason why you would need every muscle to be trained the same amount, unless that's your goal?

    Longevity. And appearance too; if every muscle in the body is toned, then you will look better. I don't intend for them to be trained the same amount, but I do intend to train them all.

    By the time I'm 70 if a certain muscle has been active my whole life, then that will stand to my advantage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Cill94



    Longetivity has more to do with being strong enough to do essential movements i.e. walking, lifting, sitting up out of a chair, etc. Along with a healthy diet and cardiovascular fitness. I don't think having done enough hip adduction sets will factor into that equation to any significant degree.


    As for appearance, that's a subjective decision to be made based on what muscles you want to develop. Certainly makes sense to train a muscle more if you want it to look more developed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Brid Hegarty


    @Cill94 Longetivity has more to do with being strong enough to do essential movements i.e. walking, lifting, sitting up out of a chair, etc. Along with a healthy diet and cardiovascular fitness. I don't think having done enough hip adduction sets will factor into that equation to any significant degree.

    Most people tend to exercise the muscles at the front of their bodies more than the muscles at the back. For example, people will tend to do push ups for the chest more than pull ups for the back. People will exercise the bicep more than the tricep. I heard someone say that if the hams aren't stretched enough, that this can actually play an indirect part in forward head posture becoming more prominent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Cill94


    Being the only one who can get into a start position probably helps 😂



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Cill94



    They do tend to yes. Evidence that it leads to pain or injury is not there. Certainly is a good idea to train your back though. 👍️

    The last part about tight hamstrings affecting head posture has no scientific backing. We don't know what causes a forward head posture, or if it's even a bad thing to begin with.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Brid Hegarty


    But isn't there more of it now than before. I'd imagine it's things like PC screens being too low. Or handle bars on a bike being too low.

    As a tall man I've realised that it's actually more convenient to walk around in a slightly hunched position given that so many of the things I have to do (be it door handle or worktops) involve stooping.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Cill94


    i don't know if there is more of it now tbh.

    If it were the case that leaning forward changes your head posture, then changing thatt would be as simple as focusing on keeping a more upright head posture.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,368 ✭✭✭bladespin


    Prolonged driving, it absolutely breaks me tbh, no proble :(s after squats, RDL etc but that leaves me in bits :(

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Brid Hegarty


    They're all saying that you're generally posture changes into a more forward position even if you aren't leaning forward.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Cill94


    For many people it does, but that's part of the ageing process. Our musculoskeletal structures get weaker and worse at resisting the force of gravity. Hence the classic hunchback granny look. Maybe a certain amount of that can be staved off with resistance training. Again, we don't really know.

    Stretching the hamstrings likely has no connection to any of that though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Brid Hegarty




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Brid Hegarty


    @Cill94 Stretching the hamstrings likely has no connection to any of that though.

    This is where I heard it said (from 6:02) about stretching the hams having an indirect effect on posture. Sounded convincing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-7ZWPCWv0U&ab_channel=ATHLEAN-X%E2%84%A2



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭j@utis


    Get yourself a cheap luggage scale and you can weight everything around your gym. Cable pulley markings are way off in our gym - up to double the amount stated on the labels, SSB weights 22kg (not branded).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Cill94


    Yeahhh... AthleanX isn't exactly evidence based fitness information. I'll admit he's good at sounding like he knows what he's talking about though.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Brid Hegarty


    But where did he come up with it? He hardly just made it up... he claims it worked for the dude in the video.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Cill94


    I don't know where he came up with it. There's two types of quacks in the fitness industry: ones who know they're wrong and just want to make an easy buck, and ones who think they're right but don't realise because they're getting results for people.

    The limited studies that are available on using exercise to change posture will on average show that it doesn't work. http://www.greglehman.ca/blog/2012/05/17/the-limitations-of-specificity-defending-the-plank-and-the-curl-up

    Despite the fact that video shows no before or after to verify if his posture changed, I'll take him at his word. So really all we know is that the guy's posture changed, not that it was specifically because he did those exercises. Maybe Jeff made him more aware of his posture and the guy chose to start changing how he moved.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭✭silverharp



    just based ona quick google, a gym website mentions something called "joint by joint" theory but the article says hamstrings are of minor importance


    this article seems to say there are unsubstantiated claims


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Cill94


    The first article is based on a popular theory from Yanda known as upper/lower cross syndrome. It's a nice sounding theory, but there's no support for it. It still gets taught to musculoskeletal health professionals and parroted despite its lack of scientific support.

    You'll notice the second article has actual research citations, and unsurprisingly comes to the conclusion that posture isn't likely to be changed by exercise. We don't even have evidence that one type of posture is better/worse for pain. The more you delve into the research on musculoskeletal health, the more you realise that a lot of the claims made by physios/therapist/chiros etc. have no backing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Brid Hegarty


    Seeing as you've quite a bit of knowledge I might ask you another question.

    Have you any tips for how to get a flat stomach? Taking myself as an example; I have a six pack but I'd like to get my stomach in more. I'd be considered skinny, and I've been keeping a consistent core exercise routine for a number of years now. But at the end of the day my belly sticks out a little bit.

    I'm pretty pleased with how I look but when I look at the side view of my belly in the mirror, I do wish it would be sucked in a bit more. I've no doubt my muscles there are in great condition, and I could pull my stomach way in if I'd to pose for a photo shoot. But I'd like my stomach to be that way naturally... something like the way the guy appears in this photo. I don't know if he's pulling it in, but there are people who's bodies are naturally like that.

    Funnily here's the same guy in another photo from the same shoot, and if you were to see him from the side you can imagine his stomach would be sticking out more than his chest. Maybe it's something to do with westerners having an S-shaped back that forces their stomach out more.

    There are quite a few fitness people who have bellies too! This girl is actually a good example. She's clearly a fitness enthusiast, yet her belly sticks way out in spite of her being so young!

    I think it happened to me when I was about 12. I just remember my belly going out a little bit. And it's been there since. Don't know why!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Cill94


    Just so you know, that 'guy' is Mark Wahlberg 😂

    As for your Q. It's probably not what you want to hear, but maybe that's just how your stomach looks 🤷‍♂️ Losing belly fat is one thing, but you seem to be talking about posture. I would contend that it's anatomically normal for a human belly to protrude and that what you see in a Calvin Klein ad is not indicative of how a normal stomach looks. The idea that the girl in the video has a 'belly' is insane. She just isn't trying to flex when she's talking.

    I did a post on this exact topic recently that involved me getting my nips out

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CU45etRsR6q/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    leaving aside any photographer tricks, I'd guess many models are 3KG or 4 KG below their normal weight on the day of a shoot like that

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭the baby bull elephant


    It's impossible for some people to have completely flat stomachs at rest without removing a few of those pesky organs...



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Brid Hegarty


    Some people do. It's rare enough though. I think Enrique used to.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭Brid Hegarty


    It's a funny one, in that true beauty shouldn't look better from different angles. Take a healthy german shepherd for example; you won't find yourself saying "gee actually it doesn't look too good from this angle". We humans are an exception in this regard in that we take one view of ourselves from the side (at the mid section) we can look pretty bad. Of course it suits us to say that certain looks are unattainable giving that we're now the second most obese country in Europe.

    I wasn't sure people would recognise him as Wahlberg as he looked so different back then. And I'm not gay or anything but I didn't even notice Kate Moss in that clip!



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