Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X Read OP For Mod Warnings

ypres5 · 20-04-2021 04:27PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Robert Watt has apparently been fine the brief of reigning Tony in. Mad that we have to pay someone €300k to do that instead of just getting rid of the problem

The problem is if you simply sacked holohan the press would turn him into a martyr

Allinall · 20-04-2021 04:29PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Robert Watt has apparently been fine the brief of reigning Tony in. Mad that we have to pay someone €300k to do that instead of just getting rid of the problem

There is a problem?

20-04-2021 04:33PM

ypres5 wrote: »

The problem is if you simply sacked holohan the press would turn him into a martyr

PTH2009 · 20-04-2021 05:05PM

The timing of the return is a little coincidental and if we hear whispers of 'a significant change in the reopening plans' than we knw who is truly running the show

With the UK and The North opening it will put pressure on our lads but its not a given

20-04-2021 05:06PM

charlie14 wrote: »

What percentage had it made even shorter by Covid ?

We're back to "they were circling the drain anyway, open the country back up" now are we? I thought this narrative was quashed this time last year, obviously not.

User1998 wrote: »

I don’t see the big deal about having say 10% more worldwide deaths for 1 year. Its 1 year out of thousands and thousands of years that people have been on this earth. Think of the bigger picture

User1998 wrote: »

What I’m saying is that if we had of relaxed with the whole worldwide lockdowns and ended up with 10% excess deaths for one year and one year only would it had really been a massive deal?

Those are the words of a sociopath. You don't care if an extra 6 million people die, because you're sick of not being able to go to the shop/pub/Croke Park?Disgusting.

niallo27 wrote: »

I really do have a deep dislike for Tony H, it's the Tony show and he loves it.

That's also equally disgusting. The man has been doing a job to the best of his abilities, while going through one of the most traumatic experiences a person can go through. A job serving the public which sometimes requires high stress situations, late nights, public appearances, back-to-back press conferences and having everyone in the country party to the most private pain you could imagine.......but you're calling him a narcissist because you think his recommendations are too strict?

The fcuk is wrong with people?

TomSweeney · 20-04-2021 05:11PM

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56813852

Again, bureaucracy months behind reality, I wonder how long this will last ?

I reckon the advice will still be in place months after covid has shrunk to practically zero threat.

This is the type of advice that should have been given in February 2020, but instead it's given at a stage when almost half of the US Pop. are vaccinated.

20-04-2021 05:19PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That's also equally disgusting. The man has been doing a job to the best of his abilities, while going through one of the most traumatic experiences a person can go through. A job serving the public which sometimes requires high stress situations, late nights, public appearances, back-to-back press conferences and having everyone in the country party to the most private pain you could imagine.......but you're calling him a narcissist because you think his recommendations are too strict?

The fcuk is wrong with people?

The fcuk is wrong with people indeed. The fcuk is wrong with half a million citizens denied a livelihood over past year by strict recommendations. The fcuk is wrong with the abandoned hospitality sector, trivialised and mocked by flippant statements like "Covid loves alcohol". The fcuk is wrong with those struggling with mental health issues. The fcuk is wrong with reopening the economy and plugging the spiralling national debt, before we plunge headlong into another deep recession.

A beyond wearied and exasperated public have had enough of the fcuking Tony show.

hynesie08 · 20-04-2021 05:20PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

The timing of the return is a little coincidental and if we hear whispers of 'a significant change in the reopening plans' than we knw who is truly running the show

With the UK and The North opening it will put pressure on our lads but its not a given

The CMO and head of nphet returning to work the week before the government announce the roadmap out of lockdown is the opposite of "coincidental"

Parachutes · 20-04-2021 05:25PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We're back to "they were circling the drain anyway, open the country back up" now are we? I thought this narrative was quashed this time last year, obviously not.

Those are the words of a sociopath. You don't care if an extra 6 million people die, because you're sick of not being able to go to the shop/pub/Croke Park?Disgusting.

That's also equally disgusting. The man has been doing a job to the best of his abilities, while going through one of the most traumatic experiences a person can go through. A job serving the public which sometimes requires high stress situations, late nights, public appearances, back-to-back press conferences and having everyone in the country party to the most private pain you could imagine.......but you're calling him a narcissist because you think his recommendations are too strict?

The fcuk is wrong with people?

Jesus Christ... how much RTE do you listen to? I think its melted your brain.

Corholio · 20-04-2021 05:29PM

Whatever about Tony coming back etc, Glynn wil be missed for how he speaks imo. The last few weeks especially, it was a good balance of positivity and the caution they have to inevitably have. Hopefully this can continue because I believe it does make a difference to people and their behaviour to have a good, positive aimed balance.

ypres5 · 20-04-2021 05:33PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Low effort meme, irrelevant to the context of the conversation 2/10. Must try harder

VeryWise · 20-04-2021 06:04PM

Working for Stephen Donnelly, managing Tony Holohan, if he can put some manners on that it’s the best 300k we ever spent!

normanoffside · 20-04-2021 06:25PM

Allinall wrote: »

There is a problem?

Well if they re appointing someone with a brief to reign him in, there must be.

Allinall · 20-04-2021 06:26PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Well if they re appointing someone with a brief to reign him in, there must be.

Where did you see that that’s the brief?

Corcaigh84 · 20-04-2021 06:26PM

Not sure if already mentioned but my buddy who owns a golf course told me it's opening for members only on Monday coming.

normanoffside · 20-04-2021 06:27PM

At least Micheal Martin has got his priorities in order.

https://twitter.com/MichealMartinTD/status/1384521536615354375

AlekSmart · 20-04-2021 06:37PM

Sharpyshoot wrote: »

There will be no after COVID, you do realise that?

Oh but there will most definitely be an "after Covid".....

https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0420/1210971-robert-watt/

However, it is understood that Mr Watt is set to waive a proposed salary increase for what was described by two Government sources as the "time being".

The annual salary for the new secretary general had been set to increase to €292,000.

Mr Watt has occupied the post on an interim basis, on a salary of €211,000, for several months.

It appears the Official Term is...."for the time being".

Best of luck to the chap........particularly in the task of putting the 579 ICU beds in place

Degag · 20-04-2021 06:39PM

Deleted User wrote: »

That's also equally disgusting. The man has been doing a job to the best of his abilities, while going through one of the most traumatic experiences a person can go through. A job serving the public which sometimes requires high stress situations, late nights, public appearances, back-to-back press conferences and having everyone in the country party to the most private pain you could imagine.......but you're calling him a narcissist because you think his recommendations are too strict?

The fcuk is wrong with people?

Agree 100%. The man is doing his job and some of the vitriol i see written on here is shameful. People should take a good hard look at themselves. His job is to save as many lives as possible and therefore some of the measures he and NPHET suggest are risk-averse of course. Don't know how people can expect anything else.

The government are then to take these suggestions and try and match them with the actual needs of the people and the economy etc. A balanced approach if you will. Now one may argue that the approach isn't balanced, which is fine but you can do that with a bit of grace.

It's not easy, the last year hasn't, the next year may not but hopefully its getting better.

Hellrazer · 20-04-2021 06:43PM

Deleted User wrote: »

That's also equally disgusting. The man has been doing a job to the best of his abilities, while going through one of the most traumatic experiences a person can go through. A job serving the public which sometimes requires high stress situations, late nights, public appearances, back-to-back press conferences and having everyone in the country party to the most private pain you could imagine.......but you're calling him a narcissist because you think his recommendations are too strict?

The fcuk is wrong with people?

Ah poor Tony - he only gets paid 200 grand a year to do the job (badly)

He deserves the criticism he gets.

gozunda · 20-04-2021 06:47PM

ypres5 wrote: »

To quote another recent poster on here. 'My uncle works at Nintendo and he says they're making the Nintendo PlayStation.'

Yeah and much like that poster - unless you extend that piece of bs wisdom to all those who claim to have some expertise on this thread and etc - then that simply comes across as attacking those you don't agree with

As the French say - plus ça change ...

Allinall · 20-04-2021 06:47PM

Hellrazer wrote: »

Ah poor Tony - he only gets paid 200 grand a year to do the job (badly)

He deserves the criticism he gets.

What does his salary have to do with it?

Degag · 20-04-2021 06:50PM

Hellrazer wrote: »

Ah poor Tony - he only gets paid 200 grand a year to do the job (badly)

He deserves the criticism he gets.

Interested to know what qualifications you have to determine he is doing a bad job?

gozunda · 20-04-2021 06:54PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We're back to "they were circling the drain anyway, open the country back up" now are we? I thought this narrative was quashed this time last year, obviously not.

Those are the words of a sociopath. You don't care if an extra 6 million people die, because you're sick of not being able to go to the shop/pub/Croke Park?Disgusting.

That's also equally disgusting. The man has been doing a job to the best of his abilities, while going through one of the most traumatic experiences a person can go through. A job serving the public which sometimes requires high stress situations, late nights, public appearances, back-to-back press conferences and having everyone in the country party to the most private pain you could imagine.......but you're calling him a narcissist because you think his recommendations are too strict?

The fcuk is wrong with people?

Quite a lot it would seem...

Coillte_Bhoy · 20-04-2021 06:58PM

Allinall wrote: »

Where did you see that that’s the brief?

Some randomer posted it and it suits the narrative of a certain cohort on here so its gospel now, dont ya know, expect to see it mentioned often

walus · 20-04-2021 07:00PM

paddyisreal wrote: »

And people say there is no hidden agenda with the media. Independent and rté have been a disgrace, that headline should of read "new variant in India but vaccine works" but as per usual its scaremongering alarmist bull**** out of them. The lockdown has been mana from heaven for the media industry and they have acted disgracefully promoting fear and angst at every turn.

Could not agree more. The media is junk these days, and just like junk food best to be avoided.

LineOfBeauty · 20-04-2021 07:01PM

https://www.independent.ie/news/groups-of-up-to-15-can-meet-up-for-outdoor-non-contact-dance-music-or-arts-activities-from-monday-40336272.html

So does that mean we get outdoor non contact football training for pods of 15 on Monday?

scamalert · 20-04-2021 07:01PM

will be fun once in couple weeks were opening up and few here will scream i wanna be in, why is there people outside :pac:

lunacy

charlie14 · 20-04-2021 07:03PM

Deleted User wrote: »

We're back to "they were circling the drain anyway, open the country back up" now are we? I thought this narrative was quashed this time last year, obviously not.

The fcuk is wrong with people?

You may have taken my post out of context. It was in reply to a poster that appeared to of that opinion.

I actually fully agree with you.

The Big Easy · 20-04-2021 07:07PM

I don't think the return of Tony definitely means what everyone thinks it does.

While he wanted to be the one making the big decision by putting us in perpetual lockdown, he'll also want to be the one releasing us.

I've long thought that we won't come out of level 5 until he returns and can take the credit himself.

I don't know if the man is a narcissist or an egomaniac, but if his return does coincide with a significant relaxation of restrictions, it would certainly point to it.

Degag · 20-04-2021 07:11PM

Hellrazer wrote: »

I don't need any qualifications to determine that - his employment history speaks for itself.

The cervical scandal says it all really - In my opinion he should have been fired after that never mind allowed to handle this pandemic.

Well i for one think he is doing a decent job under what must be extreme pressure.

I don't know much about the cervical scandal to comment on that i'm afraid.

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