Relaxation of Restrictions, Part X *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

thebaz wrote: »

Lots of good news the past week, and the Indo headlines with more fear inducing stuff about 'Double mutant'. - then goes on to say not sure if it is any more dangerous, and experts warn about not over-reacting and 'Not Freaking out' .
What irresposnible journalism, the Indo was a decent paper now like a red top, anything for a headline or a click.
Ther is already far too much anxiety in our society today.

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/2021-to-become-year-of-the-variant-as-double-mutantindian-strain-detected-in-ireland-40333050.html

And people say there is no hidden agenda with the media. Independent and rté have been a disgrace, that headline should of read "new variant in India but vaccine works" but as per usual its scaremongering alarmist bull**** out of them. The lockdown has been mana from heaven for the media industry and they have acted disgracefully promoting fear and angst at every turn.

paddyisreal wrote: »

And people say there is no hidden agenda with the media.

The clickbait is there for all to see, so the 'agenda' isn't exactly hidden.:)

Graces7 wrote: »

My medically qualified extended family over there are to be believed in this; while some of what you say is true in the lack of wisdom, so is the fact of this being a more dangerous and more transmissible variant of the virus.


One aspect does not exclude the other!

google and find abundant medical evidence . None so blind of course!

To quote another recent poster on here. 'My uncle works at Nintendo and he says they're making the Nintendo PlayStation.'

Graces7 wrote: »

Thank you and I echo this. We have extended family out there and they are in strictest lockdown now. This as you rightly say is very serious for India and for the wider world.

I didn't, "rightly say (it) is very serious." All I said was that it's reporting news, not scaremongering. It may well actually be serious...but probably not.

normanoffside wrote: »

In bad news for relaxation of restrictions Tony is back!

Welcome back An Taoiseach

normanoffside wrote: »

In bad news for relaxation of restrictions Tony is back!

Oh great, expect the "2km from home" limit to be reinstated

MHQ for ALL countries.

Schools to resume remote learning

Building sites to close.


Travel/Hospitality to restart in 2023....

charlie14 wrote: »

Do you not think that perhaps all the media speculation a few weeks back when India`s number were low that they had reached the level of herd immunity may have added to that ?
Even when many of their own experts in the field were warning that there was no real evidence to support the speculation.


In fact is there not a parallel of the same woolly headed India immunity thinking from some here.
Pointing at our present low numbers and the U.K. as reasons we should open up immediately to the same level as the U.K. while ignoring what brought those numbers down and that the U.K. is only at the stage it is at because of their level of vaccinations

Oh it certainly did. I think the main cause was their leaders and politicians openly stating on both an Indian level and global level of the great job they did and how there were now out of the woods. This was a doubled edged sword as 1) it caused a sharp decrease in the numbers seeking vaccines as they figured I don't need a vaccine as the crisis is now over and 2) the crisis is now over so no need for distancing, restrictions, masks etc.

Good article on the BBC yesterday gives a good insight as to what happened.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-56771766

hynesie08 wrote: »

Wanna put a bet on that?

Well, I see Robert Watt has been appointed as the top mandarin for the Dept. of Health, maybe he will reign in old Holohan and try keep a lid on his public appearances...

normanoffside wrote: »

In bad news for relaxation of restrictions Tony is back!

We're ****ed now

The Big Easy wrote: »

I'll tell you what's wooly. Anything comparing what's happening in India to here. In terms of age demographics, poverty rates, population density, health system, testing regime, climate, culture and so forth and so forth.

You may as well be discussing different planets.

But no, use India as a reason to stay in lockdown why don't you?!

People can choose self-imposed lockdown, that's a perfectly valid choice if it's something that doesn't appall you, or maybe even you feel more comfortable in it, you don't need the rest of society there with you to justify that choice however.

The points I was making appears to have sailed over your head.
India imo is at the level it is now with new cases and deaths due to, at least partially, a belief that it had reached herd immunity.
Some here are pointing to our low numbers and comparing them to the U.K. as a reason we should now be opening up to the same level, while ignoring that the reason the U.K. is now able to do is not because of their low numbers. It is because of their level of vaccinations. A level we are not yet at.

To believe we can do the same as the U.K. at this point, is the same woolly headed thinking as India thinking they could drop/ignore measure to prevent the spread of the virus due to herd immunity.

Deleted User wrote: »

The hidden agenda with the media is to get as many people as possible to click their links, buy their newspapers of otherwise support their revenue stream in whatever way possible. If it bleeds it leads. And in spite of what the thread believe, most people understand this and expect the resolution of the majority of issues through Q2. This is the only place I hear "but the variants". The real world not inhabited by rabid naysayers who seek out something to be offended by at every opportunity.

The media in Ireland have been regularly advising listeners and readers to follow public health guidelines.

Can that be ignored too?

Or is it open to interpretation what part of what the media communicates is true/false?

charlie14 wrote: »

Sounds like you are a believer in throwing out the baby along with the bathwater Fintan.:rolleyes:

No that’s the current approach which I’m against Charlie

A myopic approach to public health and economy

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

No that’s the current approach which I’m against Charlie

A myopic approach to public health and economy

Fair enough Fintan, but you should perhaps be mindfull that myopia is nearsightedness. It gives a deceptive vision of distant objects.

normanoffside wrote: »

In bad news for relaxation of restrictions Tony is back!

Just what we need especially a week before the decisions on easing restrictions are due next week

The ultra conservation approach will now be extra ultra Conservative

Hospitality sector will be waiting even longer to open with Tony back