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Covid 19 Part XXXIII-231,484 ROI(4,610 deaths)116,197 NI (2,107 deaths)(23/03)Read OP

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  • #7442
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 92,317 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Good man Journal reporter for asking about Sputnik.

    Sputnik costs less than $10 a shot, 2 shots $20, enough for the entire population would cost less than €100 million which is pocket change in the scheme of things, the economy is losing more than this per day. We should have an order in now while it's awaiting approval.

    I just think of Ross from Friends dressed up :o:P

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • #7443
    Sanjuro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    Kiith wrote: »
    Why can't they just lay out a god damned plan. If we are at x by y date, z happens. Then if we are better 4 weeks after that, this happens.

    Is it really so ****ing hard to give the people some idea of what they are planning?

    **** sake :mad:

    Cant give a plan if they don't have a plan.


  • #7444
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Kiith wrote: »
    Why can't they just lay out a god damned plan. If we are at x by y date, z happens. Then if we are better 4 weeks after that, this happens.

    Is it really so ****ing hard to give the people some idea of what they are planning?

    **** sake :mad:
    Likely to be the week after next unfortunately, with leaks probably from the end of next week.


  • #7445
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Turtwig wrote: »
    Guy from the journal just asked this question.
    (Stephenmjcd and a few others had already addressed it multiple times in the vaccinations thread.)
    Briefing Answer:
    EMA Rolling review is under way but at an early stage. If vaccination is approved it will be to up to government and the procurement bodies to obtain supply.
    There is no reason to go outside the EMA as it would require substantial resources.

    This sounds all very logical. I suppose printing funny money and giving it to people for jam is better than investing in the capability to fight this thing off for the foreseeable.

    I can easily envisage a situation where we are celebrating the majority of people vaccinated when another variant emerges that requires another "booster shot"

    If we are slow this time around we'll be well behind come the next.


  • #7446
    Monster249
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭Monster249


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Yes, it is hard, because this virus is completely unpredictable.

    Do you want them to tell the future? What is it you expect them to do?

    Jesus christ.


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  • #7447
    Marty Bird
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭Marty Bird


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Yes, it is hard, because this virus is completely unpredictable.

    Do you want them to tell the future? What is it you expect them to do?

    Tell the future? sure they have been saying things won’t happen months in advance. It’s simple they don’t have a plan

    🌞6.02kWp⚡️3.01kWp South/East⚡️3.01kWp West



  • #7448
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Good man Journal reporter for asking about Sputnik.

    Sputnik costs less than $10 a shot, 2 shots $20, enough for the entire population would cost less than €100 million which is pocket change in the scheme of things, the economy is losing more than this per day. We should have an order in now while it's awaiting approval.

    Again, because they have stockpiles just waiting on orders?


  • #7449
    Busi_Girl08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,639 ✭✭✭✭Busi_Girl08


    In fairness some decent questions from George.


  • #7450
    Astrid Miniature Veteran
    Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭ Astrid Miniature Veteran


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Yes, it is hard, because this virus is completely unpredictable.

    Do you want them to tell the future? What is it you expect them to do?

    They can lay out a plan, a few key targets and milestones to meet. If not met things remain, if met then this happens etc etc. It gives hope and something to work towards.

    The way it currently is being handled is making things far worse. Already seeing massive amounts of non compliance.

    Thats not people's fault. It's the poor messaging from the Govt. They have royally ****ed up the communication part. Human behavior will correlate with that.


  • #7451
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,577 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Addison Tangy Soapsuds wrote: »
    They can lay out a plan, a few key targets and milestones to meet. If not met things remain, if met then this happens etc etc. It gives hope and something to work towards.

    The way it currently is being handled is making things far worse. Already seeing massive amounts of non compliance.

    Thats not people's fault. It's the poor messaging from the Govt. They have royally ****ed up the communication part. Human behavior will correlate with that.
    Exactly, Boris Johnson (who I usually think is a bellend) has rolled out a complete plan of when everything will open should various conditions and targets be met, we have absolutely nothing.


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  • #7452
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    The same few NPHET / government defenders straight on to defend their every decision

    Weird


  • #7453
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Alan Kelly becoming a rational figure in all of this, on Six One repeatedly criticising the lack of urgency in Government chasing up vaccine procurement. Need more dissenting voices to challenge the status quo, as the narrative in the media has been overly fawning of NPHET and the government.


  • #7454
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    The same few NPHET / government defenders straight on to defend their every decision

    Weird

    Same few spouting the same horse**** straight from Russian troll farms

    Weird


  • #7455
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Exactly, Boris Johnson (who I usually think is a bellend) has rolled out a complete plan of when everything will open should various conditions and targets be met, we have absolutely nothing.

    Boris Johnson is the Prime Minister.

    Ronan Glynn is not the Taoiseach.

    Whatever you can say about how the UK have handled this, Boris and his CMO have worked together on it and they’ve taken flack together and boasted about wins together.

    The government here has no interest in working with NPHET and would rather let them take all the flack.

    It’s complete gaslighting from this government and it’s shameful.


  • #7456
    Monster249
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭Monster249


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    The same few NPHET / government defenders straight on to defend their every decision

    Weird

    Either NPCs or agents.


  • #7457
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    No doubt nobody is listening to Glynn here.


  • #7458
    Benimar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,799 ✭✭✭Benimar


    All this ‘just give us a plan’ reminds me of last May. As soon as a plan was published the exact same posters who ‘only want a plan’ were on complaining that the plan was too slow and that (insert something the poster likes doing here) could ‘easily’ be opened earlier.

    It will be the same this time no doubt.


  • #7459
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    So the delay in getting it back up and running isn't what was spouted on here after all . Who'd have thought ?

    It was to get paperwork in order to avoid litigation

    Honestly unless desperate who would take the AZ vaccine at this stage


  • #7460
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Faugheen wrote: »
    No doubt nobody is listening to Glynn here.

    The local school prefect that has taken an adult form.


  • #7461
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    The local school prefect that has taken an adult form.

    So you weren’t. Good to know.


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  • #7462
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Has anyone ever asked themselves the question as to why Russian diplomats are going around the world offering everyone vaccines, when in Russia itself they have administered less than 50% of the vaccines per 100k that the eu has.

    It’s almost as if it’s a coordinated campaign to spread misinformation and sow discord


  • #7463
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,743 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Same few spouting the same horse**** straight from Russian troll farms

    Weird

    Russian troll farms? Lol, I'm back in 2016


  • #7464
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,432 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    The same few NPHET / government defenders straight on to defend their every decision

    Weird

    And the same few moaning about everything from NPHET?

    It's called discussion and opinion.


  • #7465
    Monster249
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭Monster249


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    And the same few moaning about everything from NPHET?

    It's called discussion and opinion.

    There's no discussion when some literally can't fathom a criticism of our health advisory overlords.


  • #7466
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Monster249 wrote: »
    There's no discussion when some literally can't fathom a criticism of our health advisory overlords.

    Saying Ronan Glynn wants the spotlight isn’t criticism or opinion. It’s bullsh*t.


  • #7467
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Monster249 wrote: »
    There's no discussion when some literally can't fathom a criticism of our health advisory overlords.

    There is criticism and there is bullsh*t


  • #7468
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Has anyone ever asked themselves the question as to why Russian diplomats are going around the world offering everyone vaccines, when in Russia itself they have administered less than 50% of the vaccines per 100k that the eu has.

    It’s almost as if it’s a coordinated campaign to spread misinformation and sow discord

    Has anyone asked why Mexico and Canada get a **** load of spare vaccines?

    weird

    is your surname mc carthy?

    giphy.gif


  • #7469
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,432 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Has anyone ever asked themselves the question as to why Russian diplomats are going around the world offering everyone vaccines, when in Russia itself they have administered less than 50% of the vaccines per 100k that the eu has.

    It’s almost as if it’s a coordinated campaign to spread misinformation and sow discord

    It is interesting that Russia has only 5.42 per 100 vaccinated while we have 12.57.


  • #7470
    CruelSummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,349 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Has anyone ever asked themselves the question as to why Russian diplomats are going around the world offering everyone vaccines, when in Russia itself they have administered less than 50% of the vaccines per 100k that the eu has.

    It’s almost as if it’s a coordinated campaign to spread misinformation and sow discord

    It is 100% the reason that Ireland isn’t running after it. Ireland is a US ally and they won’t want to upset Joe in the White House after him calling Putin a ‘killer’ recently.


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  • #7471
    Monster249
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 268 ✭✭Monster249


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Saying Ronan Glynn wants the spotlight isn’t criticism or opinion. It’s bullsh*t.

    Yes we agree there.


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