Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Didn't mean to come across as aggressive, apologies. You are correct with the first part yes, but it is possible that there may be the odd few that are untrackable.

Well if they’re untrackable surely that means they’ve been the victim of community transfer?
So is community transfer extinguished or is it not?

tom1ie wrote: »

Well if they’re untrackable surely that means they’ve been the victim of community transfer?
So is community transfer extinguished or is it not?

They said it's extinguished for the large part yes. I simply don't have the figures to state that it is entirely gone. I was just stating that there may be the odd few, because I genuinely don't know.

Peter Burke being made a fool of on The tonight show just now.

On asked why certain stores can open and other can't he talks about how only opening certain store restricts movement and congregation of the population.

Countered by Ergon Morgentorth professor of Economics in DCU who explains that if you only open a few places open then people are congregated in them, presenting a much bigger risk as opposed to opening any shops as long as they enforce social distancing in which case there are lower congregations of people.

Again it's a case of common sense not being that common in our political leaders.

eagle eye wrote: »

That doesn't say that it's extinguished, it says effectively extinguished.

Just today we were told that community transmission remains very low at about 50 cases per day, that's not extinguished.

50 cases per day is clearly the average number of cases we have had for the last few weeks.
If you exclude meat plants and health services we would have close no cases.

eagle eye wrote: »

That doesn't say that it's extinguished, it says effectively extinguished.

Just today we were told that community transmission remains very low at about 50 cases per day, that's not extinguished.

If we had 50 community transmission cases the country would be shut down immediately. This isn't true.

eagle eye wrote: »

Do we are supposed to exclude meat plants now too? Are they all staying together and not going home after their day's work?

All contacts are now being tested too, meaning transmission in the community is reduced even further.

eagle eye wrote: »

Rte. ie/amp/1143206
Can't out in the link properly on the phone app or it disappears.

He said the level of disease in the community remains "very low" at around 50 cases per day.

is a general statement by Prof. Nolan to say we have an average of 50 cases per day. It has nothing to do with community cases or residential cases etc.

tom1ie wrote: »

But there were 38 cases today (worldometers) no? (Although think I seen 47 in the journal) So where are u getting 50 community cases?

Our average cases per day over the last 7 days is 50.

eagle eye wrote: »

Do we are supposed to exclude meat plants now too? Are they all staying together and not going home after their day's work?

Meat plants were always considered and essential service and will continue to be. Even in complete lockdown they were open. Infections in meat plants are not a reflection on any restrictions being relaxed.

You will also note that no deaths are being reported from meat plants given that the employees are generally of a young/working age so it is really not just any kind of risk. It's great that we are now finding these cases and asking them to isolate so that they don't infect more vulnerable people.
It's a case of it being a good thing that we are finding these cases because without testing them they may not have even realised they had it and in turn have infected their elderly relatives.

eagle eye wrote: »

Do we are supposed to exclude meat plants now too? Are they all staying together and not going home after their day's work?

By the way, my dad is 72 and still works in a meat plant (in the sense that he will go back after this is over).
When this whole thing kicked off we had to convince him not to go back to work.
He's a pig headed man but thankfully in the end he decided not to go back to work after the lock-down started. It was pretty obvious that those plants would be a source of infection even though government was saying at the tie that it was all fine.

Again this is a case of common sense of the people, not the government who were telling everything was grand.

fritzelly wrote: »

If there is one good thing to come out of all this - as bad as it has been in some countries it could have been far worse - is that every country should make plans and put in to place procedures and laws for the next one so there is no dilly dallying around about what to do next time
It's been a good learning curve for many countries who have never experienced anything like this (pretty much every country)

As some experts are saying these viruses are coming faster and faster

Either that or we cut off all ties with countries who foster backward practices to minimize the risks

Agreed. Some country's handling of this shows that world preparedness was not the best.

stephenjmcd wrote: »

HSE Operations report just released and it's all good news.

As of 18:30 there were 45 confirmed covid cases in ICU, down from 48 yesterday and no ICU deaths recorded between 10am yesteday and 10am today. 30 on ventilators down from 32.

As of 8pm there were 193 confirmed cases in acute hospitals down from 233, a drop of 40 in 24hrs.

8 cases diagnosed in hosptial settings in the last 24hrs.

Figures are really dropping,its great to see

giveitholly wrote: »

Figures are really dropping,its great to see

Yup, there was a big drop after the weekend, a slight increase on Tuesday and another big drop again tonight.

Cases being detected in hospital settings also staying very low on a daily basis.

On this day last week we're down 107 covid confirmed cases in general beds