Covid19 Part XVII-24,841 in ROI (1,639 deaths) 4,679 in NI (518 deaths)(28/05)Read OP

yourdeadwright · 25-05-2020 09:35AM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

This is the first I have heard of this but what is wrong with him doing it? We're allowed to meet friends from different households outside now.

It may be from another time but if its is yesterday he certainly wasn't 2 meters apart form his other two mates ,

Not sure where he lives os was he within his 5k,

He wasn't exercising or going shipping otherwise we have been told its still stay at home,

Also called me old fashion but the leader of a country (any country) shouldn't be topless lying around a local park, but that just my opinion ,

Micky 32 · 25-05-2020 09:37AM

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

This is the first I have heard of this but what is wrong with him doing it? We're allowed to meet friends from different households outside now.

I saw something mentioned that the video could be from 4 years ago.

yourdeadwright · 25-05-2020 09:40AM

Micky 32 wrote: »

I saw something mentioned that the video could be from 4 years ago.

I thought the same surely even if he wasn't doing much wrong he would give it a miss in the current climate knowing the question it would cause ,

Tony EH · 25-05-2020 09:46AM

growleaves wrote: »

Wrong.

2 to 4 million dead over the course of two flu seasons in 1968-69.

On average a flu season lasts around 13 weeks.

I'm talking about the US death toll from the HK flu pandemic outbreaks of 68 and 69, which killed around 100,000. Covid has reached that number faster.

But, of course, you already know that. So stop playing silly buggers.

Jinglejangle69 · 25-05-2020 09:51AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

So what's everyone's thoughts on the latest photos/videos of Leo and his four mates sunbathing in Phoenix park yesterday,
I heard people say they where drinking but no proof of that in the photo's or video's

Will there be public outrage about nothing ?

Are you sure it's from yesterday?

People saying it's from 2 years ago.

cnocbui · 25-05-2020 09:52AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

It may be from another time but if its is yesterday he certainly wasn't 2 meters apart form his other two mates ,

Not sure where he lives os was he within his 5k,

He wasn't exercising or going shipping otherwise we have been told its still stay at home,

Also called me old fashion but the leader of a country (any country) shouldn't be topless lying around a local park, but that just my opinion ,

Now it was Jacinda Ardern...

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https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(20)30183-2/fulltext

Shirts off.

gabeeg · 25-05-2020 09:53AM

growleaves wrote: »

A disease which has killed 2 million people is deadlier than one that has killed less than 350k.

I wouldn't have thought this was particularly controversial.

Why does covid need to be hyped with dishonest slogans suggesting it is on a par with the the Spanish flu?

Futuristic speculations are not reality.

More people have died from drowning in swimming pools than from nuclear bombs.

Therefor swimming pools are more dangerous than nuclear bombs. Gotcha. Thanks

What Username Guidelines · 25-05-2020 09:54AM

Italian Epidemiologist interview saying opening on May 4th has had no effect, emergency calls back to normal level pre-covid and hospital numbers dropping. Reckons it's down to the effect of 'harvesting', as in it has hit the most vulnerable and is now dwindling. Also, the numbers of new cases are mostly healthcare staff and antibody tests.

https://milano.corriere.it/notizie/cronaca/20_maggio_25/coronavirus-lombardia-demicheli-ecco-perche-cala-numero-morti-anche-se-virus-non-si-indebolito-c34617c4-9dfe-11ea-b9b6-8e4b7089692f.shtml

stephenjmcd · 25-05-2020 09:56AM

Micky 32 wrote: »

I saw something mentioned that the video could be from 4 years ago.

It's from yesterday mentioned in below article

https://amp.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/varadkar-and-partner-living-at-farmleigh-lodge-during-pandemic-39231145.html?__twitter_impression=true

Micky 32 · 25-05-2020 09:57AM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Are you sure it's from yesterday?

People saying it's from 2 years ago.

Exactly, the bollox you read on this thread it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s from another time.

Jinglejangle69 · 25-05-2020 09:58AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

It's from yesterday mentioned in below article

https://amp.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/varadkar-and-partner-living-at-farmleigh-lodge-during-pandemic-39231145.html?__twitter_impression=true

So no rules broken.

Grand.

stephenjmcd · 25-05-2020 09:59AM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Italian Epidemiologist interview saying opening on May 4th has had no effect, emergency calls back to normal level pre-covid and hospital numbers dropping. Reckons it's down to the effect of 'harvesting', as in it has hit the most vulnerable and is now dwindling. Also, the numbers of new cases are mostly healthcare staff and antibody tests.

https://milano.corriere.it/notizie/cronaca/20_maggio_25/coronavirus-lombardia-demicheli-ecco-perche-cala-numero-morti-anche-se-virus-non-si-indebolito-c34617c4-9dfe-11ea-b9b6-8e4b7089692f.shtml

Could be simply burning out. Not something I thought likely but seems to hit a peak in most countries within the same time frame while continuing on a downward trend even with restrictions being lifted

AlmightyCushion · 25-05-2020 09:59AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

It may be from another time but if its is yesterday he certainly wasn't 2 meters apart form his other two mates ,

Not sure where he lives os was he within his 5k,

He wasn't exercising or going shipping otherwise we have been told its still stay at home,

Also called me old fashion but the leader of a country (any country) shouldn't be topless lying around a local park, but that just my opinion ,

Assuming it isn't from years ago which it wouldn't surprise me if it was.

1. Yeah, fair enough, he should be 2 metres apart.
2. He's from/lives in Castleknock, he could be well within 5KM there.
3. We are in phase one of the roadmap which allows you to meet people from different households outside so he hasn't broken any of the rules there.
4. I am half tempted to agree with you here just because it would be pretty funny to see Varadker in a full suit walking around a beach in the height of summer with everyone else around him topless. :pac: He'd be like Will from The Inbetweeners.

stephenjmcd · 25-05-2020 10:00AM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

So no rules broken.

Grand.

Potentially the social distance but not in terms of travel.

yourdeadwright · 25-05-2020 10:00AM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

So no rules broken.

Grand.

If its form yesterday and that's a big "IF" its clear as day he was not keeping 2 meters from his friends ,

May seem like an over reaction but how are politicians so stupid, stand up in front of the country spelling out the rules then break them in public,

25-05-2020 10:01AM

bb1234567 wrote: »

I am hesistant to believe it is authentic, simply because it is filmed in Pheonix Park. Why would he pick a busy city centre park to act like that, knowing so many people would recognise him there

Looks to be real. For a fella so sensitive to his social media image he can be very very stupid at times.

growleaves · 25-05-2020 10:03AM

gabeeg wrote: »

More people have died from drowning in swimming pools than from nuclear bombs.

Therefor swimming pools are more dangerous than nuclear bombs. Gotcha. Thanks

Lol the reason I was making a comparison was in response to a comparison!

Does it upset people to be told that the 50-100 million dead of the Spanish Flu is not the only relevant pandemic of the last century?

I didn't expect six posters to get in a strop about it.

Jim_Hodge · 25-05-2020 10:06AM

growleaves wrote: »

Wrong.

On average a flu season lasts around 13 weeks.

You use figures to suit your stance. Flu season is continuous worldwide. C13 weeks per region not globally.

growleaves · 25-05-2020 10:13AM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

You use figures to suit your stance. Flu season is continuous worldwide. C13 weeks per region not globally.

No the truth is that many posters here are deeply confused about timeframes re pandemics. Hong Kong flu did not flare continuously for two years. Nor did 1918-19 Spanish Flu.

The claim that 3 or more months of covid constitutes something like a 'very, very' short period of time, or 'much, much' shorter period than other outbreaks is probably the most consistently wrong assumption on these threads.

I don't even think posters are being dishonest here, they are just confused.

bb1234567 · 25-05-2020 10:14AM

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

Looks to be real. For a fella so sensitive to his social media image he can be very very stupid at times.

It's not that I dont think it's real but the video may not have been filmed as recently as the twitter poster claims. There's no proof it isn't from another summer like last year

Hector Savage · 25-05-2020 10:15AM

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52795447

Let's see if this leads to outbreaks, I'd guess not, don't think this thing transmits out in open sunny weather

Onesea · 25-05-2020 10:19AM

I see the China are trying to impose laws onto Hong Kong. The protesters are back out in full force.

A headline in the National review

"a years worth of suicide attempts in the last four weeks"

stephenjmcd · 25-05-2020 10:19AM

bb1234567 wrote: »

It's not that I dont think it's real but the video may not have been filmed as recently as the twitter poster claims. There's no proof it isn't from another summer like last year

There is, confirmed in the independent from his dept that it's from yesterday.

Jinglejangle69 · 25-05-2020 10:20AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

There is, confirmed in the independent from his dept that it's from yesterday.

You want us all to live like hermits for the rest of our lives?

We're allowed out.

Get over yourself.

growleaves · 25-05-2020 10:21AM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

You want us all to live like hermits for the rest of our lives?

Were allowed out.

Get over yourself.

Lol

stephenjmcd · 25-05-2020 10:22AM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

You want us all to live like hermits for the rest of our lives?

Were allowed out.

Get over yourself.

If you look back at my post history I've been saying people should be out. I've been out, I'm completely against people living like hermits so a bit of perspective please and dont be jumping to conclusions.

I think its hypocritical for him to be telling us to keep 2m and won't budge on it when it looks like he didn't observe it himself. We're quite quick to point out the flaws in the UK when someone in power there breaks the rules. That's the point.

Get over yourself

25-05-2020 10:24AM

growleaves wrote: »

I'm not ignoring it. I'm saying you cannot count deaths that didn't happen as if they did happen. Do you not get that projections of things happening are not the same thing as reality?

So you are telling me that all the deaths in 1969 were recorded accurately?

bb1234567 · 25-05-2020 10:24AM

growleaves wrote: »

No the truth is that many posters here are deeply confused about timeframes re pandemics. Hong Kong flu did not flare continuously for two years. Nor did 1918-19 Spanish Flu.

The claim that 3 or more months of covid constitutes something like a 'very, very' short period of time, or 'much, much' shorter period than other outbreaks is probably the most consistently wrong assumption on these threads.

I don't even think posters are being dishonest here, they are just confused.

And is the situation with COVID not worse then given that history of other pandemics? COVID clearly remains at a quite an inflated and protracted curve even with a lockdown and other measures stamping rates of infections down. I guess it will be interesting to see how long the the natural lifespan of the curve is in a more or less unintervened way in Brazil and Mexico

bb1234567 · 25-05-2020 10:25AM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

You want us all to live like hermits for the rest of our lives?

We're allowed out.

Get over yourself.

This thread is ridiculous

growleaves · 25-05-2020 10:31AM

Deleted User wrote: »

So you are telling me that all the deaths in 1969 were recorded accurately?

Medical statistics are notoriously unreliable, based on estimates etc., that's the nature of the beast. True for all outbreaks. I've seen estimates of between 1-4 million deaths for 68-69 flu. (Between 17 million and 100 million estimated for Spanish flu deaths)

Whether they are accurate, undercounted, overcounted or what I couldn't tell you cause there's no way of knowing.

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