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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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    #8672
    Stheno
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    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Not according to their son on the BBC last night. They are in hospital but not 'in a bad way'.

    He did say his father was very I'll, unable to eat and needing a wheelchair to move about


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    #8673
    ThePopehimself
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    Corkgirl18 wrote: »
    Thanks for the replies all.



    We're supposed to be bringing 80 school kids with us so won't be able to wait unfortunately. I'm guessing we're not going to end up going at this stage
    Cancel.


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    #8674
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Urban legend
    People are dying in theirs 30s too, as for the underlying condition, that means anything including a normal flue that has affected your immune system. You don't have to be an elderly on death doorstep to be at risk

    Agreed from what has been released - it can affect a wide range of age groups.

    On the immune system - one expert was recommending the flu jab for anyone who has not yet had it. Not that the flu vaccine provides any protection against the Corona virus (it doesn't) rather it evens out the odds of getting hit with flu whilst the corona infection is prevalent.

    That and some multi vitamins with vitamin D and zinc to make sure vitamin levels are adequate


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    #8675
    Stheno
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    Gynoid wrote: »
    I don't get your meaning?

    Exactly my point tbh


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    #8676
    Nijmegen
    Registered Users Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Italy lived in a bubble until 3 days ago, they said the virus wasn't there and the risk to get it was 0%
    Denial is our biggest problem, people should start now to take preconditions instead of later

    I note a rush to the shops and all the ensuing last minute panic that entails. They haven’t been able to identify patient zero either, apparently their suspect was clean. But yeah read this thread and all the back and forth, “oh you fools stocking up!” If Italy and South Korea can get fast moving cases, so can Ireland or anywhere else. Personally I don’t fancy trying to prepare at that point. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/23/italy-draconian-measures-effort-halt-coronavirus-outbreak-spread


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    #8677
    Mic 1972
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    tara73 wrote: »
    Agree. but what to do? I guess avoiding public transport comletely, not shaking hands anymore with anybody (easy excuse here saying you have a bad cold) and avoiding events/places with many people in close contact. bit miserable life though...


    Avoiding people when you have a cold/flue and you are contagious would be a good starting point. In fact, it would be the decent thing to do regardless of covid.


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    #8678
    cnocbui
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    wakka12 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1231530105794682882?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1231530105794682882&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2Ff881sf%3Fresponsive%3Dtrue%26is_nightmode%3Dfalse
    Israel seems by far the most determined country in the world to not have an epidemic

    Well we already knew that from watching World War Z. ;)


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    #8679
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    Stheno wrote: »
    Exactly my point tbh

    Oh Jeez, some sort of mystery man who speaks in riddles. If you mean I should put them on ignore they are multiple, and some I otherwise very much like, so it would be easier if all those people who feel like lambasting Grace would just put her on ignore.


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    #8680
    Nijmegen
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    Weird the way the outbreak in Italy is so spread across a load of little villages. Another super spreader, on holiday? Shoutout to all those previous here saying “we have a low population density, be grand in the countryside!”


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    #8681
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Gynoid wrote: »
    Oh Jeez, some sort of mystery man who speaks in riddles. If you mean I should put them on ignore they are multiple, and some I otherwise very much like, so it would be easier if all those people who feel like lambasting Grace would just out her on ignore.

    Could never stand outrage merchants who speak in riddles either they are just looking for attention.


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    #8682
    cnocbui
    Registered Users Posts: 19,865 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    I’m booked to go to Greece in May.

    Warmer, might have less contagion risk than Ireland by that point. Just hold your breath while in airports. I'd probably go if you are not in the high risk category


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    #8683
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    Nijmegen wrote: »
    Weird the way the outbreak in Italy is so spread across a load of little villages. Another super spreader, on holiday?


    it's normal spreading from different sources as you would expect when a contagion has taken off

    Only the small villages are being tested at the moment because there are confirmed cases there. If they did a mass test in Milan the numbers would rise


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    #8684
    CinemaGuy45
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    cnocbui wrote: »
    Warmer, might have less contagion risk than Ireland by that point. Just hold your breath while in airports. I'd probably go if you are not in the high risk category

    And on the flight.

    I am not worried about my destination so much as the flight and the airports.


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    #8685
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    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Avoiding people when you have a cold/flue and you are contagious would be a good starting point. In fact, it would be the decent thing to do regardless of covid.

    I mentioned weeks ago that the HSE should have been running ad campaigns before the start of the flu seasons. Show people how to wash their hands correctly, sneezing or coughing into a tissue, etc.

    A decent ad campaign is is better than the trolley crisis every year. Not saying it will eradicate the trolley issue but it wouldn’t make it worse.


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    #8686
    cnocbui
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    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    And on the flight.

    I am not worried about my destination so much as the flight and the airports.

    Planes have hospital grade air filtration so the main risk is sitting close to an infected person. I think airport toilets and surfaces are the big worry. My kids have gotten norovirus a couple of times when traveling. Not fun. F'n Heathrow!


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    #8687
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    Sorry I must have missed that?

    Yeah me too ...

    Probably need to put the glasses on there I think. That and a very tiny violin ...


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    #8688
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Planes have hospital grade air filtration so the main risk is sitting close to an infected person.


    Diamond Princess says hi


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    #8689
    volchitsa
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    Nijmegen wrote: »
    Weird the way the outbreak in Italy is so spread across a load of little villages. Another super spreader, on holiday? Shoutout to all those previous here saying “we have a low population density, be grand in the countryside!”

    The guy ran a local marathon apparently before he got sick. Perfect for spreading the virus to as many people and places as possible.


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    #8690
    tara73
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    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Avoiding people when you have a cold/flue and you are contagious would be a good starting point. In fact, it would be the decent thing to do regardless of covid.


    I meant if you don't have any cold/flu, but don't want to shake hands, to not being impolite mentioning having the cold/flu as an excuse...:)


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    cnocbui wrote: »
    Warmer, might have less contagion risk than Ireland by that point. Just hold your breath while in airports. I'd probably go if you are not in the high risk category

    Well if there is any truth in taking liquorice then I’ll just start on the sambuca once I’ve parked the car up :D


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    #8692
    Mic 1972
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    tara73 wrote: »
    I meant if you don't have any cold/flu, but don't want to shake hands, to not being impolite mentioning having the cold/flu as an excuse...:)


    I think you are perfectly right to do so, we can worry about ethiquette another time


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    #8693
    CinemaGuy45
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    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Well if there is any truth in taking liquorice then I’ll just start on the sambuca once I’ve parked the car up :D

    Best to have a few before that to steady up your nerves for the drive.:D


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    #8694
    BanditLuke
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    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    And on the flight.

    I am not worried about my destination so much as the flight and the airports.

    Personally i wouldn't be getting on any airplanes from this point onward until more is known.Not that worried about myself health wide im A1 but wouldn't want to spread it to my elderly parents.


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    #8695
    TomSweeney
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    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    Anybody going on holiday in the next few weeks anywhere is there a good chance of travel being canceled?

    Opinions?


    I am worried about a trip to Norway in July, mind you if at that stage it needs to be cancelled I'll have a lot more to worry about - like not f*cking dying!!!


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    #8696
    CinemaGuy45
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    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Personally i wouldn't be getting on any airplanes from this point onward until more is known.Not that worried about myself health wide im A1 but wouldn't want to spread it to my elderly parents.

    Mmmmm.

    Yes.


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    #8697
    Stheno
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    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Personally i wouldn't be getting on any airplanes from this point onward until more is known.Not that worried about myself health wide im A1 but wouldn't want to spread it to my elderly parents.

    The company I work for has had a global travel ban in place for weeks now


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    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Personally i wouldn't be getting on any airplanes from this point onward until more is known.Not that worried about myself health wide im A1 but wouldn't want to spread it to my elderly parents.

    That would be my worry too. I am a carer for my dad who has a tracheotomy.

    I have annual travel insurance so will wait and see.


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    #8699
    CinemaGuy45
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    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    That would be my worry too. I am a carer for my dad who has a tracheotomy.

    I have annual travel insurance so will wait and see.

    Booked with Ryanair got their insurance did not read the policy.


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    #8700
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Stheno wrote: »
    The company I work for has had a global travel ban in place for weeks now

    Yeah our place doesn't and it hasn't even been discussed. Luckily i don't do travel for work only throughout Ireland but others are at the airports every other day.


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    #8701
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    I must admit. The 38 year dying in Italy is a bit concerning. Was healthy. Current worry level would be 4\10.


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