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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    22% of open cases are in critical condition, that is a figure to watch when medical resources start to run out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Graces7 wrote: »
    As I said, my eyes are very sore and I am on a very limited machine. That material is there and of course it does not suit you to find it
    Does not matter. Bless you gozunda! Bless you!

    Yup as pointed out by others -

    The relevant / up to date information is not on the website you detailed.

    The fact that the HSE haven't got the their finger out DOEs matter

    Btw any link for the "isolation units" you detailed? I'm interested in learning about them- but can't find anything.

    And Gesundheit to you ...

    But dont think anyone sneezed (thankfully) graces :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Only if you are old and already sick - you left out that bit.


    Urban legend
    People are dying in theirs 30s too, as for the underlying condition, that means anything including a normal flue that has affected your immune system. You don't have to be an elderly on death doorstep to be at risk


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    22% of open cases are in critical condition, that is a figure to watch when medical resources start to run out


    So a death rate of 2% is sounding really silly at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    So a death rate of 2% is sounding really silly at this stage.


    Yep, it always sounded silly, now even more
    The closed cases are showing a 10% death rate at the moment. Number of closed cases are no longer small now, reliability has increased


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Corkgirl18


    Has anyone seen a list of the towns/cities in Italy that are on lockdown? I can't find one. Supposed to be flying into Bergamo Milan in a few days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    Corkgirl18 wrote: »
    Has anyone seen a list of the towns/cities in Italy that are on lockdown? I can't find one. Supposed to be flying into Bergamo Milan in a few days.


    that's right in the middle of it


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Corkgirl18 wrote: »
    Has anyone seen a list of the towns/cities in Italy that are on lockdown? I can't find one. Supposed to be flying into Bergamo Milan in a few days.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/23/italy-draconian-measures-effort-halt-coronavirus-outbreak-spread

    2 cases in Milan multiple shows cancelled for Milan fashion week


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Corkgirl18 wrote: »
    Has anyone seen a list of the towns/cities in Italy that are on lockdown? I can't find one. Supposed to be flying into Bergamo Milan in a few days.

    I am meant to be flying soon also.

    Best advice is wait until the day before travel to make up your mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    Bergamo is in the region Lombardia = 89 cases so far, the most affected


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Stheno wrote: »

    A tiny but of good news among all the bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    Gynoid wrote: »
    Clinical course and outcomes of critically ill patients with SARS-CoV-2 pneumonia in Wuhan, China: a single-centered, retrospective, observational study Xiaobo Yang*, Yuan Yu*, Jiqian Xu*, Huaqing Shu*, Jia’an Xia*, Hong Liu*, Yongran Wu, Lu Zhang, Zhui Yu, Minghao Fang, Ting Yu, Yaxin Wang, Shangwen Pan, Xiaojing Zou, Shiying Yuan, You Shang

    Published in The Lancet Feb 21st 2020

    Summary

    Background
    An ongoing outbreak of pneumonia associated with the severe acute respiratory coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) started in December, 2019, in Wuhan, China. Information about critically ill patients with SARS-CoV-2 infection is scarce. We aimed to describe the clinical course and outcomes of critically ill patients with SARS-CoV-2 pneumonia.

    Methods
    In this single-centered, retrospective, observational study, we enrolled 52 critically ill adult patients with SARS-CoV-2 pneumonia who were admitted to the intensive care unit (ICU) of Wuhan Jin Yin-tan hospital (Wuhan, China) between late December, 2019, and Jan 26, 2020. Demographic data, symptoms, laboratory values, comorbidities, treatments, and clinical outcomes were all collected. Data were compared between survivors and non-survivors. The primary outcome was 28-day mortality, as of Feb 9, 2020. Secondary outcomes included incidence of SARS-CoV-2-related acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) and the proportion of patients requiring mechanical ventilation.

    Findings
    Of 710 patients with SARS-CoV-2 pneumonia, 52 critically ill adult patients were included. The mean age of the 52 patients was 59·7 (SD 13·3) years, 35 (67%) were men, 21 (40%) had chronic illness, 51 (98%) had fever. 32 (61·5%) patients had died at 28 days, and the median duration from admission to the intensive care unit (ICU) to death was 7 (IQR 3–11) days for non-survivors. Compared with survivors, non-survivors were older (64·6 years [11·2]
    vs 51·9 years [12·9]), more likely to develop ARDS (26 [81%] patients vs 9 [45%] patients), and more likely to receive mechanical ventilation (30 [94%] patients vs 7 [35%] patients), either invasively or non-invasively. Most patients had
    organ function damage, including 35 (67%) with ARDS, 15 (29%) with acute kidney injury, 12 (23%) with cardiac injury, 15 (29%) with liver dysfunction, and one (2%) with pneumothorax. 37 (71%) patients required mechanical ventilation. Hospital-acquired infection occurred in seven (13·5%) patients.
    Interpretation The mortality of critically ill patients with SARS-CoV-2 pneumonia is considerable. The survival time of
    the non-survivors is likely to be within 1–2 weeks after ICU admission. Older patients (>65 years) with comorbidities and ARDS are at increased risk of death. The severity of SARS-CoV-2 pneumonia poses great strain on critical care resources in hospitals, especially if they are not adequately staffed or resourced.




    Seems to be a horrible illness for sure.

    Those last few lines do not mix well with the current state of our hospitals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Are there any cases of people who got it but were mostly grand except for a rise in temperature and needing to stay away from working out in the gym for a few days?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭TheRepentent


    Graces7 wrote: »
    A

    That material is there and of course it does not suit you to find it
    Does not matter.
    You make the claim you back it up...as usual you post absolute sh1te and when pulled up on it , you throw your toys out of your pram.

    Everyone knows what you're like at this stage , whatever thread you jump into and no matter the topic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Corkgirl18


    Thanks for the replies all.
    I am meant to be flying soon also.

    Best advice is wait until the day before travel to make up your mind.

    We're supposed to be bringing 80 school kids with us so won't be able to wait unfortunately. I'm guessing we're not going to end up going at this stage


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Bergamo\Milan would be big airport hubs for skiing areas. If an airport worker was a carrier then half of Europe who went skiing last while would be open to it. Really mind blowing when you think how easily something can spread in modern times.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Corkgirl18 wrote: »
    Thanks for the replies all.



    We're supposed to be bringing 80 school kids with us so won't be able to wait unfortunately. I'm guessing we're not going to end up going at this stage

    I am sorry but don't think there is any chance of that trip happening now.:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    Are there any cases of people who got it but were mostly grand except for a rise in temperature and needing to stay away from working out in the gym for a few days?


    well, 80% of people get only mild symptoms


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    That British couple on the Cruise Ship were totally fine they gave interviews on TV and all there were really mild.

    They are dead now.

    Did they die????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    well, 80% of people get only mild symptoms

    20% of open cases critical that is not good for sure.
    How will that 20% do as hospitals become overwhelmed?


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  • Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That British couple on the Cruise Ship were totally fine they gave interviews on TV and all there were really mild.

    They are dead now.

    Woah! They’re not dead! They are sick but haven’t died.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    fe
    pc7 wrote: »
    Did they die????

    No different couple sorry for the mix up/

    Cruise ship pair die from coronavirus after being taken off boat


    Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/20/cruise-ship-couple-die-coronavirus-taken-off-boat-12270683/?ito=cbshare

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/MetroUK | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetroUK/

    Sorry wrong link.


  • Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They did/:(

    When???


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,471 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    These lock down conditions cannot be implemented everywhere, once we accept that we have moved beyond the containment phase, right?

    .
    .
    .
    .

    Italy brings in draconian measures in effort to halt coronavirus spread

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/23/italy-draconian-measures-effort-halt-coronavirus-outbreak-spread?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,541 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    They did/:(

    Cruise ship pair die from coronavirus after being taken off boat


    Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/20/cruise-ship-couple-die-coronavirus-taken-off-boat-12270683/?ito=cbshare

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/MetroUK | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetroUK/

    That link is about 2 Japanese in their 80s

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭Indestructable


    fe

    They did/:(

    Cruise ship pair die from coronavirus after being taken off boat


    Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2020/02/20/cruise-ship-couple-die-coronavirus-taken-off-boat-12270683/?ito=cbshare

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/MetroUK | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetroUK/

    Sorry wrong link.

    That's not the British pair


  • Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    That’s not the British couple.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Woah! They’re not dead! They are sick but haven’t died.

    You're correct got that mixed up sorry.

    They are in a bad way however the couple that died were Japanese.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,982 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Graces7 wrote: »
    It was once mooted the eating liquorish would relieve M.E and we are highly motivated .. sadly a few died of liver/kidney failure eating too much .

    I know it's nothing to do with Covid-19 but source please.

    Over ingestion of liquorice can cause blood pressure issues and irregular heart beat. It's only known to affect kidneys in those already suffering from kidney disease. I'm not aware of anything but claimed beneficial impacts on liver.

    I love all your references to "we". Do you speak for a group?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    That link is about 2 Japanese in their 80s

    Yes sorry for the mix up I see that now.


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