Conor McGregor thread (MMA Talk Only - Read 1st Post Before Posting)

sc86 · 29-11-2019 12:11pm

he couldnt be stupid enough to think he can take on masvidal if he wins this?

Effects · 29-11-2019 12:17pm

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Cowboy at Welter weight is stupid on McGregor behalf ,His team have not thought this thorugh very well.

Cowboy wins because of the weight this fight is at, McGregor has made a foolish mistake,

He has to have thought this through properly. And it's surely his decision to take the fight at WW, no one else's.

sc86 wrote: »

he couldnt be stupid enough to think he can take on masvidal if he wins this?

He didn't get where he is by doubting his ability to take on fighters.

yourdeadwright · 29-11-2019 12:24pm

Effects wrote: »

He has to have thought this through properly. And it's surely his decision to take the fight at WW, no one else's.

He didn't get where he is by doubting his ability to take on fighters.

It possible he pushed and pushed the UFC for a fight in January as he keeps saying he wants back in asap and with the late announcement ( reported Cowboy hasn't signed yet but will) that Cowboy said yes but he can't drop the weight in time,

Could be true or could be tactical on Cowboys part to get McGregor at a weight that he thinks he has a better chance , Don't forget McGregor is the type to say **** it ill fight you at whatever weight,

MartyMcFly84 · 29-11-2019 12:27pm

Connor will land on Cerrone and could well knock him out in the early rounds.

pastorbarrett · 29-11-2019 12:47pm

All in all, the weight class makes this fight way more interesting.

Ready4Boarding · 29-11-2019 12:52pm

John_D80 wrote: »

Wow. I can’t believe I actually just read this.

So you will grudgingly give him your support in order for you to feel justified in continuing to hate him??

LOL Seriously mate, have a good look at yourself.

Relax, you moron, it was a joke.

MrStuffins · 29-11-2019 12:53pm

sc86 wrote: »

he couldnt be stupid enough to think he can take on masvidal if he wins this?

Weird how MMA moves on. This statement would have been laughed at 24 months ago.

Mellor · 29-11-2019 1:11pm

Ready4Boarding wrote: »

Relax, you moron, it was a joke.

You'll have to explain that one for me.

sc86 · 29-11-2019 1:15pm

MrStuffins wrote: »

Weird how MMA moves on. This statement would have been laughed at 24 months ago.

very true , one stock has rose dramatically , one has nose dived

bmcc10 · 29-11-2019 1:21pm

The funniest part of all this is just how overrated Masvidal has become.

derfderf · 29-11-2019 1:26pm

MrStuffins wrote: »

Weird how MMA moves on. This statement would have been laughed at 24 months ago.

Imagine saying back then that Conor couldn't beat a guy that lost to Al Iaquinta.

Mellor · 29-11-2019 1:35pm

I think people are making the making the mistake of comparing Cowboys chances vrs Conor with Cowboys chances vrs welterweights. The latter is irrelevant.

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Cowboy at Welter weight is stupid on McGregor behalf ,His team have not thought this thorugh very well

Now in this fight McGregor will be much smaller welter weight , It will suit Cowboy down to the ground , he will have a more gas ,better durability and more power than he does at lightweight , plus retain his length advantage he normally losses at welter weight,

Cowboys last 4 losses at this weight are Leon Edwards, Till , Lawlor, Masvidal all former Middle weights and MASSIVE welter weights

Cowboy wins because of the weight this fight is at, McGregor has made a foolish mistake,

Having the fight at WW has no any impact on Cowboys reach/length?

This is just two LWs who agreed to not having to cut weight. Cowboy fought at LW a few weeks ago. If he was been away for a year and couldn't make 155, different story.

Hector Savage · 29-11-2019 1:35pm

Whats the story with the weight ? is it a lower weight class for Conor ?

Boom_Bap · 29-11-2019 1:41pm

Hector Savage wrote: »

Whats the story with the weight ? is it a lower weight class for Conor ?

It's 170, it's what he fought Diaz at, so heavier.

He's been doing more weights lately so that may be a factor.
Previously I remember an interview where he just used his own body weight.

Ush1 · 29-11-2019 1:44pm

pastorbarrett wrote: »

All in all, the weight class makes this fight way more interesting.

Not for me. Makes it more of a one off most likely.

Ush1 · 29-11-2019 1:46pm

derfderf wrote: »

Imagine saying back then that Conor couldn't beat a guy that lost to Al Iaquinta.

I thought that fight was a robbery. Masvidal slapped the head off him in the first round.

pastorbarrett · 29-11-2019 2:15pm

bmcc10 wrote: »

The funniest part of all this is just how overrated Masvidal has become.

Not in the least overrated - on a tear, solid fundamentals without exception, excellent striking with KO power.

fitzparker · 29-11-2019 2:22pm

it's great to see fight talk back in this thread, but be careful all... .the trolls are back

fitzparker · 29-11-2019 2:26pm

I think its at 170 for Conor to go for masvidal and the "BMF" belt, Conor wont like that he isn't recognized as the BMF.

If he gets trough Masvidal its a straight shot at the 170 belt (which i think Colby will beat Usman for)

the back and fourth from this will be a huge PPV, IMO the biggest in UFC history.

Either that or

Masvidal - international fight week

ferg or Khabib - Nov in NYC

all saying this is grand its also Conor and he could go missing for another year or 2

Tazzimus · 29-11-2019 2:29pm

Mellor wrote: »

This is just two LWs who agreed to not having to cut weight.

Ssshh don't be making sense in here.

eagle eye · 29-11-2019 2:30pm

Sofiztikated wrote:

Yay, here come the crowds to tell us how much of a ****heel Conor is, and that he has no chance.

Wtf are you on about. It's the likes of you that is constantly bickering and ruining threads for the rest of us.
People have a right to air their opinion whether you like it or not.
I'm a fan of Conor for many years but I don't like the heel character he has acted as over the past four or so years.
I want to see Conor win but I'm concerned with him fighting at welterweight. I think he should beat Cowboy but beyond that I'd be very concerned for him at that weight.
I don't like the fact that it appears he is chasing that worthless belt like some sort of gangsta.

Tazzimus · 29-11-2019 2:38pm

eagle eye wrote: »

Wtf are you on about. It's the likes of you that is constantly bickering and ruining threads for the rest of us.
People have a right to air their opinion whether you like it or not.
I'm a fan of Conor for many years but I don't like the heel character he has acted as over the past four or so years.
I want to see Conor win but I'm concerned with him fighting at welterweight. I think he should beat Cowboy but beyond that I'd be very concerned for him at that weight.
I don't like the fact that it appears he is chasing that worthless belt like some sort of gangsta.

He's fighting at his natural weight, sans weight cut.
He nearly always weighs 170, or close to it, in fights.
It's not like he's facing some 200lb welterweight cutting down for it.

pastorbarrett · 29-11-2019 2:38pm

Tazzimus wrote: »

Ssshh don't be making sense in here.

Recall Cowboy saying he used to walk around approx 180 for LW - this several years back. It's possible he's over that now. Not a sizeable WW, but a WW nevertheless.

Tazzimus · 29-11-2019 2:39pm

pastorbarrett wrote: »

Recall Cowboy saying he used to walk around approx 180 for LW - this several years back. It's possible he's over that now. Not a sizeable WW, but a WW nevertheless.

Conor walks around at 170, possibly may be more now.
Most of the lightweights are natural welterweights

Ush1 · 29-11-2019 2:41pm

Tazzimus wrote: »

He's fighting at his natural weight, sans weight cut.
He nearly always weighs 170, or close to it, in fights.
It's not like he's facing some 200lb welterweight cutting down for it.

But it obviously makes a difference in the fight, hence they are fighting sans weight cut. That's why this seems like a pointless thing unless he thinks he can be WW champ.

eurokev · 29-11-2019 2:43pm

If Cowboy shows up like he did against iaquinta, which I think he will, he is going to stop Conor with ease. Conor is just not tough enough.

Cowboys body kicks are going to have Conor gassing very very quickly.
He'll go for the takedown then and get subbed pretty soon after. Although id love if Cerrone landed a headkick.

I can't believe how much I want to see McGregor badly beaten and condemned to history. Only a couple of years ago I had so so much admiration for him. I used to feel like I knew him and routed for him so much. I used to be constantly checking for news about him and the lead up to his fights would almost consume me. Now he just fills me with disgust, embarrasses our culture on a worldwide stage, and makes me angry that he fooled me for so long.

Tazzimus · 29-11-2019 2:46pm

Ush1 wrote: »

But it obviously makes a difference in the fight, hence they are fighting sans weight cut. That's why this seems like a pointless thing unless he thinks he can be WW champ.

Likely neither fancy having a lean Christmas so decided on a "welterweight" fight so they wouldn't have to cut.

pastorbarrett · 29-11-2019 2:47pm

Tazzimus wrote: »

Conor walks around at 170, possibly may be more now.
Most of the lightweights are natural welterweights

Given the gulf in UFC weight-classes, it's not unusual to have size discrepancy come fight night. If it was boxing, they'd likely naturally be a weight class apart.

It's probably reasonable to say that Cowboy is going to attempt to make the most of something of a size advantage on McGregor.

155 would seem to favour McGregor more for this fight.

29-11-2019 2:51pm

eurokev wrote: »

Only a couple of years ago I had so so much admiration for him. I used to feel like I knew him and routed for him so much. I used to be constantly checking for news about him and the lead up to his fights would almost consume me. Now he just fills me with disgust, embarrasses our culture on a worldwide stage, and makes me angry that he fooled me for so long.

Take a chill pill, man. I've close family members that don't affect me that much.

Ush1 · 29-11-2019 2:52pm

Tazzimus wrote: »

Likely neither fancy having a lean Christmas so decided on a "welterweight" fight so they wouldn't have to cut.

Possibly but my point is that people who are saying they are just lightweights without a weight cut, so what? Weight cuts make a huge difference and could easily favour one fighter more over another. Same goes for lack of a weight cut.

I'd question there long term motivation also if they just don't want to cut weight because it's Christmas but sure we don't know if that's the case.

Tazzimus · 29-11-2019 3:04pm

pastorbarrett wrote: »

Given the gulf in UFC weight-classes, it's not unusual to have size discrepancy come fight night. If it was boxing, they'd likely naturally be a weight class apart.

It's probably reasonable to say that Cowboy is going to attempt to make the most of something of a size advantage on McGregor.

155 would seem to favour McGregor more for this fight.

He'll have a slight height and reach advantage (I think), doubt he'll have much, if any, of a weight advantage seeing as he's back fighting at 155 so has to keep his weight somewhat in check.

Ush1 wrote: »

Possibly but my point is that people who are saying they are just lightweights without a weight cut, so what? Weight cuts make a huge difference and could easily favour one fighter more over another. Same goes for lack of a weight cut.

I'd question there long term motivation also if they just don't want to cut weight because it's Christmas but sure we don't know if that's the case.

Weight cutting sucks balls, especially over Christmas. I imagine that's their main motivation for it.
They're both in or around the same weight out of camp, so it shouldn't have a huge effect. Both might have a tiny cut to hit 170, but it won't be like Till trying to make it or that.

eagle eye · 29-11-2019 3:06pm

McGregor was unstoppable at featherweight, not as strong at lightweight, don't see how welterweight will be good for him.

Ush1 · 29-11-2019 3:09pm

Tazzimus wrote: »

Weight cutting sucks balls, especially over Christmas. I imagine that's their main motivation for it.
They're both in or around the same weight out of camp, so it shouldn't have a huge effect. Both might have a tiny cut to hit 170, but it won't be like Till trying to make it or that.

Maybe in terms of the weight difference but it can make a huge difference in the fight. I personally think McGregor looks better with a weight cut, I believe both him and JK have said as much in the past.

Tazzimus · 29-11-2019 3:13pm

Ush1 wrote: »

Maybe in terms of the weight difference but it can make a huge difference in the fight. I personally think McGregor looks better with a weight cut, I believe both him and JK have said as much in the past.

I think it's more of a state of mind with him. He'll probably do a small weight cut, similar to Diaz 2

hots · 29-11-2019 3:23pm

eagle eye wrote: »

McGregor was unstoppable at featherweight, not as strong at lightweight, don't see how welterweight will be good for him.

Long term, definitely a poor call, but for this I think it's more of a case of them both agreeing to enjoy christmas and not break their balls, I think they're both at their best at 155. It will be really interesting though to see if Cerrone bulks above 170 and cuts down much, to make him noticeably bigger come fight night.

sc86 · 29-11-2019 3:57pm

bmcc10 wrote: »

The funniest part of all this is just how overrated Masvidal has become.

hes a excellent fighter

JJayoo · 29-11-2019 4:03pm

Cowboy isn't a 'smart' fighter, McG will trash talk him and mess with his head, just look at cowboy Vs Diaz and how the game plan went out the window

Richard tea · 29-11-2019 4:41pm

Oh yes baby its on. It doesnt matter if you are pro or anti Mcgregor the main thing is the entertainment value leading up to this event will be epic. It will be a massive PPV. Im backing Conor for this one but its a close one to call. I cant believe some are posting saying cowboys is a gimme:mad:

Sweet.Science · 29-11-2019 4:59pm

Weird how the UFC announced it and not him .Its strange how silent he is. Seems like they are forcing his hand to me

ASOT · 29-11-2019 5:09pm

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Weird how the UFC announced it and not him .Its strange how silent he is. Seems like they are forcing his hand to me

https://touch.boards.ie/forum/576

He annouced January 18th over a month ago btw.

Bigmac1euro · 29-11-2019 5:13pm

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Weird how the UFC announced it and not him .Its strange how silent he is. Seems like they are forcing his hand to me

He announced he was fighting on January 18th a month ago. He seemed like he was hyped for it as well. Not sure how your getting this. The ufc haven’t got the power to force his hand anymore. His whiskey sales alone in the US would keep him minted.

Sofiztikated · 29-11-2019 5:17pm

eagle eye wrote: »

Wtf are you on about. It's the likes of you that is constantly bickering and ruining threads for the rest of us.
People have a right to air their opinion whether you like it or not.
I'm a fan of Conor for many years but I don't like the heel character he has acted as over the past four or so years.
I want to see Conor win but I'm concerned with him fighting at welterweight. I think he should beat Cowboy but beyond that I'd be very concerned for him at that weight.
I don't like the fact that it appears he is chasing that worthless belt like some sort of gangsta.

Ah, EE, you know I meant the people that don't frequent the MMA forum at all, or the troll low post count lads.

Sweet.Science · 29-11-2019 5:22pm

Bigmac1euro wrote: »

He announced he was fighting on January 18th a month ago. He seemed like he was hyped for it as well. Not sure how your getting this. The ufc haven’t got the power to force his hand anymore. His whiskey sales alone in the US would keep him minted.

Nothing from him at all when it was officially announced and his opponent was announced who is coming off a number of losses. Seems fishy to me

CatFromHue · 29-11-2019 6:28pm

JJayoo wrote: »

Cowboy isn't a 'smart' fighter, McG will trash talk him and mess with his head, just look at cowboy Vs Diaz and how the game plan went out the window

That was 8 years ago.

He's seen what McGregor does and has been on the receiving end of it before, at that big press conference, so he should be much more equipped for it. At this stage McGregor's trash talk is boring. Khabib rose to it as, I suppose the best way to put it is that his people trigger easily in the Western World. Slagging someone's Dad in this part of the world is playground stuff, in Dagestan seemingly it's actually pretty serious.

Frank Bullitt · 29-11-2019 7:59pm

bmcc10 wrote: »

The funniest part of all this is just how overrated Masvidal has become.

eagle eye · 29-11-2019 8:07pm

Sweet.Science wrote:

Weird how the UFC announced it and not him .Its strange how silent he is. Seems like they are forcing his hand to me

He was hinting at it for quite a while but said he could not reveal anything. Cowboy put up a picture of himself with a bottle of proper and I believe Conor retweeted it. This was over a month ago.

Frank Bullitt · 29-11-2019 8:15pm

Worthwhile throwing up this glorious combo gif of Cerrone. At 170 as well.

Fromvert · 29-11-2019 8:33pm

Cerrone looks good standing against guys that have poor striking (see Rick Storey gif above) and when you look through his wins there's not many accomplished strikers (Barboza one of the very few, won by sub in round 1).

McGregor is going to back him up and pick him off against the fence and when Cowboy does throw back, he's going to miss and be countered. If he survives long enough to accept his striking isn't up to it against McGregor's he'll start shooting but it'll be too late.

Sofiztikated · 29-11-2019 8:39pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

That was 8 years ago.

He's seen what McGregor does and has been on the receiving end of it before, at that big press conference, so he should be much more equipped for it. At this stage McGregor's trash talk is boring. Khabib rose to it as, I suppose the best way to put it is that his people trigger easily in the Western World. Slagging someone's Dad in this part of the world is playground stuff, in Dagestan seemingly it's actually pretty serious.

Should be, but a Conor presser against an opponent is an onslaught, it's something that he's good at. Well, used to be. I reckon there won't be the same venom against Cerrone, Khabib was the upstart taking his limelight as the "Killer prospect."

And if you started having a pop at peoples parents around here like that, you wouldn't be long about getting a jab about the ears all the same. It's playground stuff, and that was by no means his wittiest/funniest, and didn't work out at all.

Still Ill · 29-11-2019 8:59pm

'Smell of ****e off yer da' really was one for the ages. What a witticism.

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