Conor McGregor thread (MMA Talk Only - Read 1st Post Before Posting)

Axwell

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Axwell

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hatrickpatrick

So assuming the retirement tweet was indeed a publicity stunt or bargaining counter, Dana is having absolutely none of it judging by his reaction. So it would seem that any chances of fans getting to see him fight in 2019 hinges entirely upon Conor backing down from whatever his current grievance is, and that anyone else backing down is highly unlikely.

Quite the rollercoaster if, like me, you got excited over the "we're looking at July 2019" stuff and then got hit with this retirement announcement later that same day!

Conor has had more retirements than title defenses. Since April 2016 he has had the same amount of wins as retirements. I'm not sure that his heart is still in it as much as it was pre-Mayweather. Hard to find that hunger I suppose when you're worth 9 figures.

Mellor

Deleted User wrote: »

Conor has had more retirements than title defenses. Since April 2016 he has had the same amount of wins as retirements.

He's has never actually been retired. If he actually did he's be out of the USADA pool.
He's either taking the piss, bargaining, talking about getting a stake again, or just rambling.

It’s mad how people choose to take stuff he says seriously, when it fits a certain narrative. Even though since day one, he’s been saying mad stuff all the time.

Autecher

Dana said Conor will never be made a part owner in the way he wants. His exact words are "Listen, if you want to own a piece of the company, you have to put up the money to buy a piece of the company," White explained ... "That's how it works." Seems about right to me.


In other kind of news Artem was asked if Conor is leaving SBG


"No, Conor is still with us, we are all still a part of SBG. The thing is that many of the SBG fighters that have kind of retired now or whatever, they have opened their own SBG gyms. So we all will often train not only at the main SBG but other SBG gyms. For example, Peter Queally opened SBG Naas and that’s a great facility, so Conor and many of us would often train there. There’s SBG D24 with Paddy Holohan; we’ve got many SBGs now so as a result it may seem sometimes that we’re not all there at SBG HQ, but we still are all a part of SBG."

Effects

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm not sure that his heart is still in it as much as it was pre-Mayweather.

Nobody thinks his heart is still in it like it was. Literally nobody.

AlmightyCushion

Autecher wrote: »

Dana said Conor will never be made a part owner in the way he wants. His exact words are "Listen, if you want to own a piece of the company, you have to put up the money to buy a piece of the company," White explained ... "That's how it works." Seems about right to me.

He could always take a percentage of the company instead of his show money/PPV points money. I assume Conor is looking for show money, PPV points and a cut of the company though.

Andy Magic

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Wrongway1985

Andy Magic wrote: »

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Old news, just being reported in the US now looks like you need to go have a read of the OP though.

Although is there much point in an MMA related Mcgregor thread now he has called it quits.

Effects

Andy Magic wrote: »

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It's even in the New York Times FFS.

Everybody knows.

Everybody knows you can't talk about it here.

It's not even fight related.

Effects

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Although is there much point in an MMA related Mcgregor thread now he has called it quits.

We can still discuss the various McGregors of the past.
Staph infection Conor, Eddie Conor, Aldo Conor, Touch Butt Conor.

I rewatched the fight with Siver a couple of weeks ago.
Siver McGregor was one of my favourite versions of McGregor.

BigMo1

Effects wrote: »

We can still discuss the various McGregors of the past.
Staph infection Conor, Eddie Conor, Aldo Conor, Touch Butt Conor.

I rewatched the fight with Siver a couple of weeks ago.
Siver McGregor was one of my favourite versions of McGregor.

Can't forget cornrow McGregor against Poirier.

hatrickpatrick

For anyone reading too much into Dana White's comments:

hatrickpatrick

Can someone who understands the ins and outs of USADA's rules explain something: The last time he announced his retirement (prior to Diaz II) there was a lot of comment about how he would have to decide fairly quickly whether it was for real or not, due to the requirement for fighters who have any possibility of fighting again in the near future being signed up with USADA for random drug testing, in and out of competition.

How often are these tests done, roughly speaking, and more importantly, how long does a fighter have to be signed up to them before they can be cleared to fight? For instance, let's suppose Conor stops being tested and legitimately retires for six months, and then decides to "come out of retirement" for a fight. Once he announces this, he'll obviously again be subject to the USADA regime, but since the tests are random and presumably need to be done a few times in order to ensure that someone really is entirely clean, how long after re-submitting to the testing regime would he be allowed to fight? I presume there's a minimum time requirement between initially signing up to those tests, and being allowed to step into the Octagon or even announce a fight?

Essentially I'm just wondering, if he does follow through on this and pull out of all his drug testing requirements as a result, what sort of timeframe then becomes the absolute minimum between deciding to return, and actually being allowed to. I presume it's at least a month or two?

EDIT: Yikes. The info was easier to find than I had expected, and apparently it's six full months between re-submitting to USADA and being allowed to compete :eek:

https://www.usada.org/athletes/retire/

He has to formally write to them to withdraw and officially retire, so basically there are two possibilities here:

(a) He's serious about it for the time being at least, and will therefore withdraw from testing and thus face a minimum six month wait from the day he decides to come back, if he does - or,
(b) He's either not serious at all, or he's serious about it, but he'll discreetly continue to be tested on the basis that he might decide to come back.

So assuming the announcement is legit, it basically depends whether his mindset has any finality to it, or whether he's already decided privately that he might be open to changing his mind. If it's the former, we could be looking at a looooooooong wait to see him fight again, if he actually pulls the trigger on withdrawing from USADA for retirement.

cletus

I'd put money on him not having contacted USADA to formally withdraw from the testing pool

hatrickpatrick

cletus wrote: »

I'd put money on him not having contacted USADA to formally withdraw from the testing pool

I'm assuming this retirement announcement is another power struggle so I'd feel the same way - the only issue is, and others might know more than I do here, how discreet are USADA / how susceptible to leaks are they? In other words, if he's announced retirement but he decides to remain in the testing pool just in case, how likely is it that this would leak to the public? Furthermore, I presume a competitive organisation like the UFC has more or less instant access to USADA information on people contracted to them, so would this not weaken his bargaining position (assuming that's what he's after with this announcement) - IE, they'll be able to quickly verify with USADA that he hasn't withdrawn, and thus go into any negotiations with a guarantee that this whole thing is a bluff and therefore they don't need to take him seriously?

Not that they were ever going to cave in to him anyway, but if he was thinking they might, you'd imagine this would have crossed his mind. Seems like an easy way for the organisation to verify whether or not his retirement is legitimate.

Ush1

Some hoop on yer wan in his latest Instagram post.

Mellor

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

how likely is it that this would leak to the public?

Test counts are publicly reported.
Conor has been tested twice this year. if he's tested a third, it confirms he's still in the pool (there's really no doubt that he is though)

Conor is so good at retiring..

Frank Bullitt

Deleted User wrote: »

Conor is so good at retiring..

Has more retirements than title defences.

Autecher

Kavanagh on the "retirement"


Not that long ago but feels like a different lifetime. 2 lads (1 with a dodgy lip ring) travelling economy around the world trying to make a dream become reality. I dont know what the future holds but I do know because of @thenotoriousmma I've done more in the last 5 years than I would have ever imagined I'd do in a lifetime #grateful 🙏🏼


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bvj84AkniLj/

Wheeliebin30

Autecher wrote: »

Kavanagh on the "retirement"


Not that long ago but feels like a different lifetime. 2 lads (1 with a dodgy lip ring) travelling economy around the world trying to make a dream become reality. I dont know what the future holds but I do know because of @thenotoriousmma I've done more in the last 5 years than I would have ever imagined I'd do in a lifetime #grateful ðŸ™ðŸ¼


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bvj84AkniLj/

But they fell out and Kavanagh is embarrassed by him.

Zero-Cool

I see he spent the night reminiscing and looking to have records changed

https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/1111796425870983168?s=19

Fromvert

Someone should tell him that clock isnt the official time

Has-been behavior..

evil_seed

He's typing about retirement with the left hand and making contract talks with the right "before anymore talks commence." :rolleyes::rolleyes:

The Nal

Its an amazing sport when you think about it. Global megastar based on 10 fights in 3 and a half years and one fight in the last 2 and a half years in the UFC. About an hour and 15 minutes in total in a UFC Octagon. The equivalent of 2 full boxing matches.

sonofenoch

The Nal wrote: »

Its an amazing sport when you think about it. Global megastar based on 10 fights in 3 and a half years and one fight in the last 2 and a half years in the UFC. About an hour and 15 minutes in total in a UFC Octagon. The equivalent of 2 full boxing matches.

More the individual than the the sport, nobody else could have had the impact he's had........like him or loathe him he's a 1 in a million character

TerrorFirmer

And in fairness McGregor has a record of 21-4 with 18 tko/ko, a lot of it in a weight class that isn't known for knockouts. He was/is a great fighter, on top of the major personality he's created for himself.

monty_python

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Zero-Cool

Dana likely to meet Conor in a few weeks face to face to make a deal. No shares but he said they'll work something out. So, there you go, Conor's never fighting in the UFC again.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2019/4/1/18291226/dana-white-doesnt-believe-conor-mcgregor-is-retired

Axwell

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Dana likely to meet Conor in a few weeks face to face to make a deal. No shares but he said they'll work something out. So, there you go, Conor's never fighting in the UFC again.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2019/4/1/18291226/dana-white-doesnt-believe-conor-mcgregor-is-retired

Sure in the tweet you posted the other day about the record for the KO he said "I demand it corrected before anymore talks commence." Not exactly the words of a retired man.

Zero-Cool

Axwell wrote: »

Sure in the tweet you posted the other day about the record for the KO he said "I demand it corrected before anymore talks commence." Not exactly the words of a retired man.

Ha, imagine if that's one of the conditions he signs a contract, gets the ko time changed to 12 seconds :pac:

ASOT

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Ha, imagine if that's one of the conditions he signs a contract, gets the ko time changed to 12 seconds :pac:

Wouldn't even surprise me in the slightest

Mellor

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Ha, imagine if that's one of the conditions he signs a contract, gets the ko time changed to 12 seconds :pac:

It's happened before.

https://www.mmamania.com/2012/1/7/2683038/fastest-knockout-in-ufc-duane-ludwig-jonathan-goulet-6-seconds-mma

Effects

Axwell wrote: »

Sure in the tweet you posted the other day about the record for the KO he said "I demand it corrected before anymore talks commence." Not exactly the words of a retired man.

Sounds like a retired person just trying to amuse themselves.

dave1982

Check out @TheNotoriousMMA’;s Tweet: https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/1113268011157401602?s=09

Man Vs ManUre

Conor has asked Khabib for rematch again in his latest tweet.
I can see this fight happening in September or whenever Khabib is back. In fact, the only way this fight doesn’t happen is if Khabib refuses it as punishment to Conor.

MrStuffins

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

Conor has asked Khabib for rematch again in his latest tweet.
I can see this fight happening in September or whenever Khabib is back. In fact, the only way this fight doesn’t happen is if Khabib refuses it as punishment to Conor.

Might he have been aiming that at Paulie?

BigMo1

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

Conor has asked Khabib for rematch again in his latest tweet.
I can see this fight happening in September or whenever Khabib is back. In fact, the only way this fight doesn’t happen is if Khabib refuses it as punishment to Conor.

He'll fight who The UFC tells him to.

pastorbarrett

To be honest, I'm not surprised he wants to run Khabib back immediately. Consensus view seems to be he's otherwise busy with whiskey/ wealth/ fame etc, but I suspect no other fight would really pique his interest at this point. I'd wager it's naive to think that the loss is doing anything other than eating away at him.

If he eventually takes a Diaz/ Cowboy or similar, it will be for the sake of activity and with a view to rematching Khabib in optimum condition. For better or worse, he'll be looking past any other match-ups.

Whether above is wise or outcome will vary, who's to say...

ASOT

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AbusesToilets

pastorbarrett wrote: »

To be honest, I'm not surprised he wants to run Khabib back immediately. Consensus view seems to be he's otherwise busy with whiskey/ wealth/ fame etc, but I suspect no other fight would really pique his interest at this point. I'd wager it's naive to think that the loss is doing anything other than eating away at him.

If he eventually takes a Diaz/ Cowboy or similar, it will be for the sake of activity and with a view to rematching Khabib in optimum condition. For better or worse, he'll be looking past any other match-ups.

Whether above is wise or outcome will vary, who's to say...

He has to get some other fights in before he faces Khabib again, both for his sake and the not ****ing over the rest of the division.

Tazzimus

AbusesToilets wrote: »

He has to get some other fights in before he faces Khabib again, both for his sake and the not ****ing over the rest of the division.

This.

Plus, there's a good few decent fights for him.
Holloway
Poirer
Cowboy
Lee
Iaquinta, maybe.

He's no shortage of good fights to pick from.

eagle eye

Man Vs ManUre wrote:

Conor has asked Khabib for rematch again in his latest tweet. I can see this fight happening in September or whenever Khabib is back. In fact, the only way this fight doesn’t happen is if Khabib refuses it as punishment to Conor.

Well if he refuses Conor then he should have to face Ferguson and I think he loses to Ferguson.

Effects

Tazzimus wrote: »

Holloway
Poirer
Cowboy
Lee
Iaquinta, maybe.
.

None of those give him the same money, and they would diminish his chances of a fight and big payday with Khabib, should he lose to any of them.

Money is his main motivating factor. Winning fights is second to that.

Eircom_Sucks

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Keep it to the off topic thread. Only so many times people are going to be told..

0ph0rce0

Khabibs latest tweet. Deffo a fight coming

creeper1

Ok. UFC just got interesting again.

Imagine how boring it would be if Conor retires!

I hope he won’t be forced to say “it’s only business “ again.