Turas Nua

refusetolose · 30-06-2019 09:51PM

Worztron wrote: »

Hi AT. What does EA stand for?

reckon he means personal advisor

Always Tired · 30-06-2019 09:54PM

Employment Advisor which is what they call them up here.

Cherry Blossom · 30-06-2019 10:59PM

Just to be pedantic, jobpath isn't run by Turas Nua in Donegal, its run by People 1st.

Always Tired · 01-07-2019 04:14AM

Cherry Blossom wrote: »

Just to be pedantic, jobpath isn't run by Turas Nua in Donegal, its run by People 1st.

I know that, I was responding to AiryFairy who was asking about Seetec, which is People 1st.

If anyone wants a real insight into either company have a look at what former employees have to say on the glassdoor site. Both say that the companies are afraid of ever being audited by the DSP as they are totally lying about their success rates and stats.

My favorite one has the headline "Attributes needed to progress in company: delusion, proficient liar, bully & a fraudulent character"

It also says their contract ends in 2020 so hopefully it will be going the way of Jobbridge consigned to the dustbin. Both awful, abusive schemes that wasted a ton of money and didn't get anyone into work that couldn't have gotten it anyway.

Worztron · 01-07-2019 10:18AM

Always Tired wrote: »

Employment Advisor which is what they call them up here.

Ok, thanks.

Always Tired · 06-07-2019 10:17PM

Anyway, according to an article dated May 26 in the times UK Ireland section Jobpath is definitely being scrapped end of this year.

IMO this didnt get covered enough in the Irish news. 2nd failed Job____ scheme by this government.

Considering I already did 12 months on it once I think it's ridiculous I have to still go until the end of the year when they can deliver nothing for me or for the 96% that havent got work since starting it.

182 million well spent to be sure.

Video · 10-07-2019 04:11PM

I had to go to the group session last week after signing on 2 weeks ago, i have a meeting tomorrow with a case officer, how often am i to expect this sort of thing?

Wanderer78 · 10-07-2019 04:34PM

Video wrote:

I had to go to the group session last week after signing on 2 weeks ago, i have a meeting tomorrow with a case officer, how often am i to expect this sort of thing?

Couple of times a week I believe, could be wrong there, but somebody who has experienced this will probably reply soon.

Consider creating an exclusive email address just for this process, delete it upon completion

Consider getting another phone/sim, destroy upon completion

Best of luck with it

splinter65 · 10-07-2019 04:46PM

Video wrote: »

I had to go to the group session last week after signing on 2 weeks ago, i have a meeting tomorrow with a case officer, how often am i to expect this sort of thing?

You’re not busy during the day at all during the week so it could be as much as 3 times a week until your successful in finding full time work.

Wanderer78 · 10-07-2019 04:52PM

splinter65 wrote:

Youâ€™re not busy during the day at all during the week so it could be as much as 3 times a week until your successful in finding full time work.

Do you know video personally?

splinter65 · 10-07-2019 04:56PM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Do you know video personally?

No. People who are looking for and available for full time work are available to attend JobPath sessions. It’s a condition of being in receipt of a Jobseekers payment.
If your not available for JobPath then you can’t get Jobseekers.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 10-07-2019 04:58PM

splinter65 wrote: »

You’re not busy during the day at all during the week so it could be as much as 3 times a week until your successful in finding full time work.

And if you are busy with something stupid like a job interview you might get written up for missing your very important turas nua appointment where they personally hand you the letter detailing your next appointment.

And anyways you're not working so there's no possible reason to object to travelling 25 minutes to wait 15 minutes for a 5 minute appointment, it's a perfectly fine use of everyone's time!

Video · 10-07-2019 05:04PM

splinter65 wrote: »

You’re not busy during the day at all during the week so it could be as much as 3 times a week until your successful in finding full time work.

Yes i am, going to job interviews and searching for work. You may not but i have more productive things to do with my time.

El_Bee · 10-07-2019 05:05PM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Do you know video personally?

Reading his input on these threads it's very clear he works for Seetec/Social protection.

splinter65 · 10-07-2019 05:11PM

Video wrote: »

Yes i am, going to job interviews and searching for work. You may not but i have more productive things to do with my time.

If you have the evidence of the job interviews then there’ll be no problem with changing the time of your JobPath session. You can search for work at the TN office and they might have suggestions of other potential employers.
I’d be glad of it if it were me.

splinter65 · 10-07-2019 05:13PM

El_Bee wrote: »

Reading his input on these threads it's very clear he works for Seetec/Social protection.

No I don’t . I’m not even a he. I work at a job where I hear a lot of people very frustrated at having to be available for work.

splinter65 · 10-07-2019 05:14PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Why?

If I were looking for a job and had got nothing after a couple of weeks and someone was offering to help me to find something then I’d give it a chance.

splinter65 · 10-07-2019 05:16PM

Zaylee Inexpensive Traffic wrote: »

And if you are busy with something stupid like a job interview you might get written up for missing your very important turas nua appointment where they personally hand you the letter detailing your next appointment.

And anyways you're not working so there's no possible reason to object to travelling 25 minutes to wait 15 minutes for a 5 minute appointment, it's a perfectly fine use of everyone's time!

But you get traveling expenses so what’s the problem ?

El_Bee · 10-07-2019 05:25PM

splinter65 wrote: »

No I don’t . I’m not even a he. I work at a job where I hear a lot of people very frustrated at having to be available for work.

I don't believe you, you're way too knowledgeable and too invested in defending them.

Video · 10-07-2019 05:25PM

splinter65 wrote: »

No I don’t . I’m not even a he. I work at a job where I hear a lot of people very frustrated at having to be available for work.

If you don't work for Social Protection and you have a job why are you speaking on a Turas Nua thread ? have you got anything better to be doing than assuming people unemployed for 2 weeks have nothing to do during the week? .. Just here for the thrills are you?

splinter65 · 10-07-2019 05:41PM

El_Bee wrote: »

I don't believe you, you're way too knowledgeable and too invested in defending them.

I’m knowledgeable about entitlements and benefits and rights in all the government departments because it’s my job to direct people to the right area to get help.
It’s also my job to tell people that there are obligations and conditions with all entitlements.
Some people don’t want to hear that part of it.
It’s totally unimportant to me or anyone else here wether you believe me or not.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 10-07-2019 05:44PM

I wonder if your posts and interactions here would be of interest to your employer? Are you this incredulous, dismissive and rude to people's faces when you're dealing with them and just have to get a bit extra in in the evenings or is it more of a keyboard warrior thing?

splinter65 · 10-07-2019 05:47PM

Video wrote: »

If you don't work for Social Protection and you have a job why are you speaking on a Turas Nua thread ? have you got anything better to be doing than assuming people unemployed for 2 weeks have nothing to do during the week? .. Just here for the thrills are you?

This is a discussion forum. There are no restrictions on who can comment where about what.
Why did you think otherwise?
I don’t assume you have nothing better to do then look for work. When you applied for Jobseekers you agreed that you were available for an looking for full time work. So you can easily be in Seetec/TN for a couple of hours a week.
It’s part of your contract with DEASP anyway.

splinter65 · 10-07-2019 05:49PM

Zaylee Inexpensive Traffic wrote: »

I wonder if your posts and interactions here would be of interest to your employer? Are you this incredulous, dismissive and rude to people's faces when you're dealing with them and just have to get a bit extra in in the evenings or is it more of a keyboard warrior thing?

Well you’ll just have to find out who I am. Find out where I live. Find out where I work. Find out who my boss is.
And write them a letter.

El_Bee · 10-07-2019 06:35PM

splinter65 wrote: »

I’m knowledgeable about entitlements and benefits and rights in all the government departments because it’s my job to direct people to the right area to get help.
It’s also my job to tell people that there are obligations and conditions with all entitlements.
Some people don’t want to hear that part of it.
It’s totally unimportant to me or anyone else here wether you believe me or not.

So you work for citizens information, sitting around looking up stuff on google all day, nice work if you can find it, and by that I mean have a relative who works there to get you in.

Conall Cernach · 10-07-2019 07:04PM

Zaylee Inexpensive Traffic wrote: »

And if you are busy with something stupid like a job interview you might get written up for missing your very important turas nua appointment where they personally hand you the letter detailing your next appointment.

And anyways you're not working so there's no possible reason to object to travelling 25 minutes to wait 15 minutes for a 5 minute appointment, it's a perfectly fine use of everyone's time!

You can contact them beforehand to tell them you have an interview that day and they will rearrange the meeting.

I was on Jobpath and found them to be fairly useless but also harmless as long as I filled out their forms and attended meetings. I was applying for jobs so I had no problem putting that down on the forms. In saying that I lived within walking distance of the office so I can see how people who had to travel miles would have their whole day disrupted for a 5 minute meeting.

splinter65 · 10-07-2019 07:05PM

El_Bee wrote: »

So you work for citizens information, sitting around looking up stuff on google all day, nice work if you can find it, and by that I mean have a relative who works there to get you in.

I don’t work for citizens information either.
You’ll have to guess again.
But I do know two sisters close to me who do.
And I don’t think you’d like it El Bee.
Lots of abuse from people who don’t like the answers they’re being given.
Lots of form filling for people who can’t speak English despite being in Ireland for 10+ years.
Being blamed when people are refused things they’ve applied for.
Of course if you want to work in one of these fab jobs there’s absolutely nothing you for going for the next vacancy. Is there?

El_Bee · 10-07-2019 07:13PM

splinter65 wrote: »

I don’t work for citizens information either.
You’ll have to guess again.
But I do know two sisters close to me who do.
And I don’t think you’d like it El Bee.
Lots of abuse from people who don’t like the answers they’re being given.
Lots of form filling for people who can’t speak English despite being in Ireland for 10+ years.
Being blamed when people are refused things they’ve applied for.
Of course if you want to work in one of these fab jobs there’s absolutely nothing you for going for the next vacancy. Is there?

Show me one vacancy for citizen information, there are none, it's a closed shop for friends and relatives, like 90% of the public sector, must be nice to be handed a do nothing makework job then look down your noses at people struggling to find work.

splinter65 · 10-07-2019 07:54PM

El_Bee wrote: »

Show me one vacancy for citizen information, there are none, it's a closed shop for friends and relatives, like 90% of the public sector, must be nice to be handed a do nothing makework job then look down your noses at people struggling to find work.

Here you go. Knock yourself out. Hope you get it.
http://www.citizensinformationboard.ie/en/news/vacancies/cisio20190704.html

Funny. I don’t see anything in the job description about sitting around googling stuff, but go ahead anyway.

10-07-2019 09:40PM

splinter65 wrote: »

Here you go. Knock yourself out. Hope you get it.
http://www.citizensinformationboard.ie/en/news/vacancies/cisio20190704.html

Funny. I don’t see anything in the job description about sitting around googling stuff, but go ahead anyway.

Thanks for the link and pay no heed to the begrudgers

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