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Lunchtime Live with Ciara Kelly [Mod warning post #1]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Heard somebody on the radio the other day waxing on about Ciara Kelly's prog and how it was great to have a show with no PC bull - and there was me thinking that (Dr) Ciara Kelly was PC personified.

    On my pet hates list - on a recent show she repeatedly referred to Pearse Street Station, and today she seemed to be even worse than usual with her pronunciation of News as Noos - two more reasons not to like the show. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭Conservative


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Heard somebody on the radio the other day waxing on about Ciara Kelly's prog and how it was great to have a show with no PC bull - and there was me thinking that (Dr) Ciara Kelly was PC personified.

    On my pet hates list - on a recent show she repeatedly referred to Pearse Street Station, and today she seemed to be even worse than usual with her pronunciation of News as Noos - two more reasons not to like the show. :D

    Think she always pronounces it noos? Chris Donoghue does it too.

    Is it a speech impediment of some sort? Seems odd when you work for NEWStalk.

    Haven't heard her new show yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    It took me a while to figure out the outrage, I guess the massive problem, for which she should obviously be fired for, is the fact she was referring to the train station which is just Pearse Station, as opposed to the garda station which is Pearse Street.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Heard somebody on the radio the other day waxing on about Ciara Kelly's prog and how it was great to have a show with no PC bull

    Were they having a laugh?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,373 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERE'S Katie. *cue outrage*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Were they having a laugh?

    Sadly they were serious. I warmed to her a bit today when she admitted liking the Barrys Tea Christmas Ad but it was shortlived as she launched into some other pc bull that I can't even remember now. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Sadly they were serious. I warmed to her a bit today when she admitted liking the Barrys Tea Christmas Ad but it was shortlived as she launched into some other pc bull that I can't even remember now. :D

    Seriously though, how could they arrive at that position? Did they listen to one minute of one show where the host happened not to be in PC-mode?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    I take it the Thursday song bit is gone completely, don't think I've ever heard it in the new show.

    I don't remember hearing the film bit and the Wed story from the past bit, I take it they're gone too.

    All 3 were very good bits, sad to see them go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭i71jskz5xu42pb


    quintana76 wrote: »
    Probably a tactic by NewsTalk to finally nail the lack of female presenters bullying. They have turned Hook's former show into Women's Hour(s) which will turn off a lot of the previous listenership. When the JLNR figures drop dramatically next time round they can say we tried, it was not a sucess, we are a business, we are not RTE and we have to make a profit. Only the extreme feminist ideologues could argue with that. They can say it was a well meaning experiment that failed.

    You seriously think Newstalk are running a show that it thinks will fail in JNLR (and by extension fail with advertisers), all the time paying a presumably good salary to CK & team just so Newstalk can bin it all because it is afraid of "bullying" as you call it? That's some serious 4D chess manoeuvre. Especially given Newstalk didn't seem to have had any issue giving short shrift to Sarah McInerney, Sarah Carey & Dil Wickremasinghe and had no problem giving the Irish Times the two fingers when called out on sexism. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,176 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    You seriously think Newstalk are running a show that it thinks will fail in JNLR (and by extension fail with advertisers), all the time paying a presumably good salary to CK & team just so Newstalk can bin it all because it is afraid of "bullying" as you call it? That's some serious 4D chess manoeuvre. Especially given Newstalk didn't seem to have had any issue giving short shrift to Sarah McInerney, Sarah Carey & Dil Wickremasinghe and had no problem giving the Irish Times the two fingers when called out on sexism. :rolleyes:

    This part worries me. Dennis O Brian owns most of the print media & Newstalk. I don't like that he tries to use this muscle silence other points of view.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭i71jskz5xu42pb


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    This part worries me. Dennis O Brian owns most of the print media & Newstalk. I don't like that he tries to use this muscle silence other points of view.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I agree with their actions, I'd have the same concerns you have about media control.
    I am saying however that their stance is a good indication that they don't have an issue with "bullies".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,176 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Did anyone else think that Ciara went overboard today looking for a victim of the foot fans?

    I thought she hand the jailing of the sports journalist and rape victims very well. Even the abuse against female celebrities I thought was good for the most part. But today I thought she took the cause a little bit too far


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Did anyone else think that Ciara went overboard today looking for a victim of the foot fans?

    I thought she hand the jailing of the sports journalist and rape victims very well. Even the abuse against female celebrities I thought was good for the most part. But today I thought she took the cause a little bit too far

    I heard some of the show today and she spoke to some woman, (didn't catch her name), in connection with the Victoria's Secrets incident. I thought her attempt to get this woman to condemn the action of the fans was pathetic. When that failed she tried to get the woman caller to say that she must have had some experience of sexual harassment in the past. The caller, to her credit, said no, nothing that she could recall. Kelly gave up at that point.
    Kelly seems to have an agenda and has no time for anyone who doesn't go along with it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 41 aivilo


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    I heard some of the show today and she spoke to some woman, (didn't catch her name), in connection with the Victoria's Secrets incident. I thought her attempt to get this woman to condemn the action of the fans was pathetic. When that failed she tried to get the woman caller to say that she must have had some experience of sexual harassment in the past. The caller, to her credit, said no, nothing that she could recall. Kelly gave up at that point.
    Kelly seems to have an agenda and has no time for anyone who doesn't go along with it.
    Looking for something to be outraged at. She does my head in. The Victoria Secret thing was great fun and the woman on her way out of the shop saw the funny side .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    I heard some of the show today and she spoke to some woman, (didn't catch her name), in connection with the Victoria's Secrets incident. I thought her attempt to get this woman to condemn the action of the fans was pathetic. When that failed she tried to get the woman caller to say that she must have had some experience of sexual harassment in the past. The caller, to her credit, said no, nothing that she could recall. Kelly gave up at that point.
    Kelly seems to have an agenda and has no time for anyone who doesn't go along with it.

    She seemed to be suggesting that the fans would have turned menacing if the woman hadn't reacted lightheartedly like she did. Which is complete balls imo.

    I thought she'd be a good addition but she has been very heavy on the gender politics which doesn't particularly interest me on a lunchtime slot. Also, the repetition of content between her show and Ivan's means I'm getting to hear hysteria over non-issues twice a day now.

    What they were thinking getting rid of that hour off Moncrieff, I don't know…


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,721 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    Jesus.

    Some guy is a pr*ck on twitter.

    That's because he's a pr*ck, not because men are bastards.

    This is getting a bit much now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Proof that people hear what they want to hear. There was no all men are bastards. And you would have also heard in the story of the sexualisation of children one of the examples used was what a woman said.


  • Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭Conservative


    I wasn't aware of this story until now. I presumed he was some kind of sex creep from the tone of the conversation.

    He called a couple of women "bitches" on Twitter. Is that what they are prattling on about?

    My second and final time listening to this show. It is dreadful, she is dreadful and I look forward to her inevitable failure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Yeah, because calling random women bitches on Twitter is an ok for anyone to do, nevermind a man with the position he holds.

    Wtf is wrong with you?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,721 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Proof that people hear what they want to hear. There was no all men are bastards. And you would have also heard in the story of the sexualisation of children one of the examples used was what a woman said.

    Wait now. You're using evidence from a different interview to tell me I hear what I want to hear?

    Fair enough.

    Anyway, one thing I am sure of is that hunters are pr*cks, all of them. Weirdos.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    My point that she wasn't all men are bastards, she wouldn't have used the example of what that model said if she was pushing that narrative.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 MikeenRonanJr


    I have to say I miss Michael Graham. The way he used to make Finley or Kelly squirm whenever they filled in for George was wonderfully entertaining.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,035 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    It' hilarious how often people get her name wrong. She's Sheila today, she was Claire the other day.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Is it just me or is there a bit or slots repeating.

    Today they started with the "election" but then they also ended with the "election" and had a bit of an "election" chat in the middle too.

    Tom Humphries was discussed for a few days too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,176 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    She was at it again yesterday. Trying to get her guests & callers to back up her belief that FF had been planning this all along. Most presenters would start a program like that by how it all started. Yet I didn't once hear her tell the listeners about lying in the dail or what a disaster she was as Minister for Justice or in fact that it's not the first time her honesty has been brought into question

    She nailed her colours firmly to the FG flag yesterday


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    In fairness you would assume that listeners of news based radio station don't need a recap. I don't necessarily agree with her opinion but there really wasn't any point rehashing story that was all over the media for days before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,176 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    meeeeh wrote:
    In fairness you would assume that listeners of news based radio station don't need a recap. I don't necessarily agree with her opinion but there really wasn't any point rehashing story that was all over the media for days before.


    Well there was when she took the stance that FF had orchestrated this out of nowhere.

    I get that she has herself own political opinions and agenda but she totally whitewashed the facts. This is over a year in the making. Fitzgerald should have been sacked a year ago. This isn't the first time she's been selective with the truth.

    Have a listen back to yesterday's show. Remembering that MaCabe is the victim here not Fitzgerald, Ciara did a terrible job yesterday.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    McCabe is a man though and Fitzgerald is a woman


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,176 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    I really thought ciara did a great job on the child grooming, and sexual abuse of women. But since then I'm feeling it's very light weight. Almost like the old magazine Woman's Own, only a radio show version. It's more suited to 2fm in a morning slot to replace Gerry Ryan.

    I'm asking myself is her show suitable for a News station? That's not to say that it doesn't have a market but news and current affairs? I don't think so


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,028 ✭✭✭✭ButtersSuki


    Only caught a small segment of the segment on bitcoin this lunchtime but Kelly (as ever) acted as if she knew more than the contributor (from Deloitte), referred to JP Morgan as a person more than once ("he said" etc.) and came across about as clueless as one could possibly come across on this subject, despite the aforementioned implied knowledge.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Only caught a small segment of the segment on bitcoin this lunchtime but Kelly (as ever) acted as if she knew more than the contributor (from Deloitte), referred to JP Morgan as a person more than once ("he said" etc.) and came across about as clueless as one could possibly come across on this subject, despite the aforementioned implied knowledge.

    Anything outside her immediate sphere of interest (medical issues or feminism) she seems to have little to no knowledge of. Makes for painful listening, especially when it's blindingly obvious that she's winging it.

    Same issue as when NT shoehorned David McWilliams into the breakfast slot years ago, the man knows a lot about economics, but f*ck all about anything else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,373 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Jarlath Regan is really kinda awful. Smug git


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    The good doctor has really got her feet under the table now and is never on her own show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,524 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    was anyone listening to that sexist load of horse manure she was on about today. she was on about women(no mention of me) not being able to work due to kids so she had some hippy on that wanted employers to allow mothers(no mention of fathers) to bring their kids to work and that employers need to pay to have safe spaces for the mothers to breast feed and look after the kids.


    I wonder would these workers be willing to be paid an appropriate percentage of their collegues wages that represents all the time lost looking after the kids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    was anyone listening to that sexist load of horse manure she was on about today. she was on about women(no mention of me) not being able to work due to kids so she had some hippy on that wanted employers to allow mothers(no mention of fathers) to bring their kids to work and that employers need to pay to have safe spaces for the mothers to breast feed and look after the kids.


    I wonder would these workers be willing to be paid an appropriate percentage of their collegues wages that represents all the time lost looking after the kids.

    It was her stand-in, Andrea Gilligan, who presented the show today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,524 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    It was her stand-in, Andrea Gilligan, who presented the show today.

    sorry forgot to mention that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭CUCINA


    Amusing moment on the show today when Ciara had a guest on to talk about how to convey your sexual preferences to your partner, without being too blunt about it.
    "So should he or she just say it, just spit it out?"

    Ouch!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭anthonyjmaher


    Did anybody read this:

    https://www.independent.ie/opinion/dr-ciara-kelly-should-old-acquaintances-be-forgot-at-midnight-36444263.html

    "The real high was getting Lunchtime Live, my radio show on Newstalk. It was for me actually, like winning the Lotto. I'd worked towards it and wanted it for a very long time. But media isn't like other jobs where you get a gig based on seniority or qualifications".

    She stood silently by as George, her old mentor and friend, was vilified and hounded out of his job by the usual liberal bullies that seem to have taken over our media. And for her this is a personal victory. Ciara, I wouldn't go celebrating your ill-gotten gains just yet, because if your first few months are anything to go by, you will be back in the surgery before the end of the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,176 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    She stood silently by as George, her old mentor and friend, was vilified and hounded out of his job by the usual liberal bullies that seem to have taken over our media. And for her this is a personal victory. Ciara, I wouldn't go celebrating your ill-gotten gains just yet, because if your first few months are anything to go by, you will be back in the surgery before the end of the year.


    Ciara publicly stuck up for George. I heard her being interviewed for ages on Radio One. She most definitely did stick up for him. If you heard the interview she actually puts you in George's shoes and you feel for what he & his family were going through.

    I do agree that the show is a mess under her control but I do take exception to anyone claiming that she stood idly by & did nothing. I hear her defend him. Not his words because they were wrong but she definitely stood up for him

    Link to interview : http://www.rte.ie/radio1/marian-finucane/programmes/2017/0916/904979-marian-finucane-saturday-16-september-2017/?clipid=102605021


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭i71jskz5xu42pb


    She stood silently by

    No she didn't stand silently by.

    She was a pretty vocal friend of George at the time despite what he said.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭anthonyjmaher


    No she didn't stand silently by. She was a pretty vocal friend of George at the time despite what he said.

    She only spoke about it when
    a) George had already been suspended.
    b) She had already taken over his job.
    Speaking out at this late stage was a contrived, self serving act and was effectively the same as saying nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    Oh good. This discussion again. Hurray.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,176 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    She only spoke about it when a) George had already been suspended. b) She had already taken over his job. Speaking out at this late stage was a contrived, self serving act and was effectively the same as saying nothing.


    That's simply not true.
    First off she nor anyone else have come forward defending what George said. He said it was wrong to say it, Pat Kenny, Ciara kelly and everyone else said that he was in the wrong for what he said.

    She, Pat Kenny etc came forward to defend his character not what he said.

    The interview linked above on previous post she did not have his job at that stage & she went into great detail defending him.

    At the end of the day George got himself into hot water. No one else can be blamed for his mistakes. To my knowledge not a single TV or radio personality has defended what George said because it was wrong. I think it very unfair to lay any blame on ciaras shoulders.

    Personally I don't think she'll last long on the lunchtime slot. I'd imagine they have lost a ton of listeners. She's too lightweight in that slot imo.

    It's a shame that this thread has so many posts taking about her rather than the show or her in the show


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,373 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Oh right, Ian O' Doherty. Preparing the audience for Hooky?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    Anyway where is George these days and when is he due to start again??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭clevtrev


    BarryD2 wrote: »
    Anyway where is George these days and when is he due to start again??

    tomorrow at 08:00-10:00


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭anthonyjmaher


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    That's simply not true.
    First off she nor anyone else have come forward defending what George said. He said it was wrong to say it, Pat Kenny, Ciara kelly and everyone else said that he was in the wrong for what he said.

    We're obviously not going to agree on this one Sleeper, but I think the strongest evidence for my case is when Kelly was on with George the Monday after the whole thing erupted hugely. She proceeded to make a statement at the start of the interview with regard to what he said (which was fair enough), but then proceeded to treat him like something that she scraped off the bottom of her shoe for the rest of the interview. There was no preface like "George, I know I owe you my entire broadcasting career, but I disagree ...." or "George, you have been a very good friend to me, but I disagree.... ". Her treatment of him in that interview buried him.

    Only was he was fully out of the way and she was in the job, did memories of their friendship come flooding back to her. People, let's not be naive here. She saw the opportunity, and she took it. That is my reading of the situation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭anthonyjmaher


    I see there is no upload of the Vegan interview from earlier. I think they have pulled it or may have been asked to pull it by the Vegan person.

    http://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/Lunchtime_Live/


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,022 ✭✭✭anthonyjmaher


    Oh and for the George fans he was on with Neil Prendeville

    http://www.redfm.ie/on-air/podcasts/neil-prendeville-on-redfm/

    It's the top link, but he's not on it until about 30 minutes from the end of the show. Looking forward to his show tomorrow, hoping that he hasn't been completely castrated altogether before going in to the studio.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    I see there is no upload of the Vegan interview from earlier. I think they have pulled it or may have been asked to pull it by the Vegan person.

    http://www.newstalk.com/podcasts/Lunchtime_Live/

    I listened to a couple of seconds of it but it wasn't for me at all, so what happened?


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