We wont see a RED CENT of that money here, so dont be planning anything.It will go to Europe in ,fines and other hoover up manouvers to be distributed for "the common good."

All the more reason to move if you are, to New Zealand.

If there was such a thing as a "Class Action" legal procedure in this country, they would be more easily brought to heel.

As it is, every single individual would have to take them to court individually.

Cass wrote: »

Jesus wept.

Our unelected leader was on the radio a few days back, and i quote, "calling for banks to rectify the tracker mortgage issue, and apologise to customers". I see today he is quoted in the Times as saying that if the banks continued to ignore the scandal of tracker mortgages he would instruct Paschal to bring in the bank bosses to "admonish" them.

Seriously!! I mean WTF.

Admonish them, for theft on a grand scale. If i steal money i go to jail. They steal it from tens of thousands of people and are asked, nicely, by the government to get it sorted and apologise for doing it.

Why in the name of all that is holy are these people not being arrested, prosecuted and jailed, the banks fined heavily, the customers refunded immediately and their original mortgage rate reinstated.

It is beyond me how this is allowed to go on. We sit back and take it EVERY SINGLE TIME.

People have gone from being able to afford their homes to not being able, to struggling, to being in debt, to loosing sleep and incurring health issues because of this. I don't doubt there has been repossessions and possible suicide/suicidal thoughts because of this. And what do we get from our so called leaders? A "call" for the banks to fix this.

A thorough disgrace.

Simply because everyone in power here has their hands in each other's pockets and all the "people that be important" have their hands in there as well, so we have the great Irish circle jerk [off]. All these people meet and mingle in the same circles, events, society soirees, orgies, mistresses etc.You are not going to demand off your pals the banker that they cop on to themselves, or they will be doing a Bernie Madoff frogmarch from their office in the Docklands to a squad car. Elections are expensive things and come around pretty often, and that personal loan for your campaign mightn't be that easy to get once your pal is sitting in jail? why do you think massive personal debt suddenly became a govt problem, in reality, OUR, the taxpayer's problem on the night in Nov about 7 years ago?? The banks simply said to a man dying of cancer and was unfit for the job."If we go down, the country and your govt is coming along for the ride!" Everyone has dirt on everyone else in these circles, and no one wants to be seen as the bad guy and possibly involved in some scandal.It's why incompetence is awarded here and not punished.throw someone else's money at the problem and it goes away..
It's why we will never have a Trump-like figure in Ireland.Anyone with enough money to challenge the system, will be bought and sold by the system that created their wealth here.Unless someone wins the biggest euro millions possible and is patriotic or crazy enough to want to change Irish politics.if you have that sort of money, would you waste it or be arsed enough to do it or be bothered?

I see that The Herald are reporting that the gun carried by the career criminal in Tallagh yesterday was a "9mm 8 guage".

This must be a rare beast indeed! Especially as the photos show something resembling a MP 40.

Shocking waste of resources and now Garda time.
He had a gun, he had showed intent, taxpayer saves 70K per year for the hotel on the North Circular road.

The press are ill informed muppets..

Resistance is futile wrote: »

Not much research done there . I'm not an expert but it look like an old British Army Sterling 9 mm Typical journalists trying for the explosive quote

No checked it out definitely its a 9mm 8 gauge, looks like a suppressed variant dating from the 1970's. Id say it came from the batch that was stolen and buried by the UVFF. If you look a bit closer you can see that its designed for an under slung PIAT.

Its an old pps-43 it aint a 9mm its a 7.62x25 tokarev (like the old tt-33 pistols)

Full auto fires from an open bolt its a 7.62x25 tokarev a bit more lively than a 9mm actually i think it would pierce soft body armor for pistol calibers
Heaps of these guns just like all soviet arms of the time were produced for the eastern front war against the Nazi s they were made after too the finns made some but they were a upgraded(most Finnish firearms of the periods were improved Russian designs) with straight mags. the Chinese made em for a while under some type designation you'll see some north Korean troops still using them
There are probably thousands of them in circulation in Europe hidden in roofs and basements like most WW2 small arms
If you want more info go to youtube and visit the -forgotten weapons- channel

Uinseann_16 wrote: »

Its an old pps-43 it aint a 9mm its a 7.62x25 Tokarev (like the old tt-33 pistols)

Err Nope! They can be converted to 9mm.The Germans did so with tens of thousands of them and reissued them as "Beute waffen"[Trans captured weapons] MP 717.Changed out the barrel to 9mm, and widened the ejector window abit more as the Tokarev cartridge is close to the Mauser 7.63X25 the precursor of the 9mm.All of a 3 min operation to change calibres back and forth. My German grandfather used one on the Eastern front, said may German soldiers picked them up as secondary weapons of the Bolsheviks for up close and personal encounters.

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Err Nope! They can be converted to 9mm.The Germans did so with tens of thousands of them and reissued them as "Beute waffen"[Trans captured weapons] MP 717.Changed out the barrel to 9mm, and widened the ejector window abit more as the Tokarev cartridge is close to the Mauser 7.63X25 the precursor of the 9mm.All of a 3 min operation to change calibres back and forth. My German grandfather used one on the Eastern front, said may German soldiers picked them up as secondary weapons of the Bolsheviks for up close and personal encounters.

Ya my mistake didnt realize they had 9mm conversions radom in poland seems to have made em in 9mm from factory too