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Steps to get good friday alcohol ban overturned.

  • 17-03-2017 7:23pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭


    I am not Catholic, I don't believe I will go to hell for drinking alcohol on
    Good Friday. I know I am a minority in Ireland in this regard but why are my rights ignored on Good Friday and what if any steps could I take to get this overturned?

    Note: its not about the alcohol, its about imposing religious dogma on non
    religious citizens.


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  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Pubs are closed Christmas day as well.
    Should they open?
    Why the hate for good Friday closing?
    I'm sure if i had a pub or worked in one, i wouldn't mind a couple of days a year with the pub closed!


  • Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭jackwigan


    Good Friday is April 14th. Today is March 17th. You have nearly a month to prepare.

    My advice on Thursday the 16th of March go into an off-licence. Buy enough alcohol to last you during Friday. Problem solved, you're welcome.

    *Note: This also works for Christmas


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,847 ✭✭✭Armchair Andy


    I spent more time reading OP's user handle than the the OP itself.
    I need a drink.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    I'd bring back the alcohol ban on Paddy's day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Just rebrand it for what it is. 'National how can I get round the drinking ban day'.

    People love this day, if they didn't they'd just STFU and go shopping in the preceding days.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,986 ✭✭✭mikeym


    Sports clubs serve alcohol on Good Friday.

    And staying in is the new going out so stock up on drink the night before.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,937 ✭✭✭SteM


    Alchos getting jittery already, it's over a month away ffs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭Allinall


    I am not Catholic, I don't believe I will go to hell for drinking alcohol on
    Good Friday. I know I am a minority in Ireland in this regard but why are my rights ignored on Good Friday and what if any steps could I take to get this overturned?

    Note: its not about the alcohol, its about imposing religious dogma on non
    religious citizens.

    What rights are being ignored?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    Note: its not about the alcohol

    It is though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭ygolometsipe


    Its not about "stocking up". It would be nice to go for a meal on Friday and
    have some wine with food.

    The ban is about imposing religious dogma, it does't matter if its one day
    or 100 days, if you are religious then don't drink but you have no right to stop others.

    Forcing you religious view on people is not ok!

    Christmas day should apply too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 504 ✭✭✭Vex Willems


    bubblypop wrote: »
    Pubs are closed Christmas day as well.
    Should they open?
    Why the hate for good Friday closing?
    I'm sure if i had a pub or worked in one, i wouldn't mind a couple of days a year with the pub closed!

    If you own it, you can close it whatever days you want.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don't really drink much. It doesnt bother me at all that you cant purchase alcohol on that day. I like it, i think its a good 'Irish' thing. Like the angelus (even though i believe thats gone now, and im not at all religious either). I don't see why the rush to turn us into "Generic Euro Country #12".

    I like the little 'irish' things that appear.


    That said, even as a non-drinker, i think the restricted sale times for alcohol are a bit stupid and only hit the innocent people and not the people with alcohol issues (ie; the joe soap that fancies a drink but works shift work so cant juts pop in and buy it on the way home, etc).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Its not about "stocking up". It would be nice to go for a meal on Friday and
    have some wine with food.

    The ban is about imposing religious dogma, it does't matter if its one day
    or 100 days, if you are religious then don't drink but you have no right to stop others.

    Forcing you religious view on people is not ok!

    Christmas day should apply too.

    It's nothing to do with religion. So get over it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭XsApollo


    All things religion should be a choosing of the people that wish to follow it.
    Not forced on people that don't care.
    Which is happening slowly in this country , but getting there.
    Mainly helped by all the **** that has went on :-).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,011 ✭✭✭enricoh


    The ones I know that go on about good Friday drinking wouldn't be in a pub from one month to the next. Gives em something else to moan about I suppose!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 646 ✭✭✭hungry hypno toad


    It is one day a year. If someone can't manage without alcohol for one day a year then they have an alcohol dependency and should seek help.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 696 ✭✭✭Noddyholder


    I am not Catholic, I don't believe I will go to hell for drinking alcohol on
    Good Friday. I know I am a minority in Ireland in this regard but why are my rights ignored on Good Friday and what if any steps could I take to get this overturned?

    Note: its not about the alcohol, its about imposing religious dogma on non
    religious citizens.



    Nowadays the closure has nothing got to do with the catholic church ,So whether you go to hell or Connaught is your own business.

    The minister if so desired could change the law very easily, as its a bit out of date, Intoxicating Liquor Act, 1927 , Tis the government you need to be throwing your wobbler at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    XsApollo wrote: »
    All things religion should be a choosing of the people that wish to follow it.
    Not forced on people that don't care.
    Which is happening slowly in this country , but getting there.
    Mainly helped by all the **** that has went on :-).

    Catholic Church are not blocking it.

    Maybe look at the headlines tomorrow to see why it won't be overturned


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭judeboy101


    Why stop with good friday? Have alcohol on sale 24hrs a day, 365 days a year. I love the fact that there are 2 days a year that there is a chance some mother or father might not head down to the pub and maybe stay sober enough to be with their family. There are lots of alcoholics who never drink in front of family and only do it in the pub.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 696 ✭✭✭Noddyholder


    It is one day a year. If someone can't manage without alcohol for one day a year then they have an alcohol dependency and should seek help.

    Personally its not great for tourism either, and does seem very strange to visitors who come here. Also if you really wanted to have a drink ya can always give 3 taps on the side window & your in.:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 646 ✭✭✭hungry hypno toad


    Personally its not great for tourism either, and does seem very strange to visitors who come here. Also if you really wanted to have a drink ya can always give 3 taps on the side window & your in.:D

    Hasn't been an issue for tourism in the past.

    So no real problem if it is that easy to bypass then. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭ygolometsipe


    It is one day a year. If someone can't manage without alcohol for one day a year then they have an alcohol dependency and should seek help.

    Who said anything about not managing? Your not only jumping to conclusions
    you leaping to them.

    If its only one day then why go to the bother of banning sale at all, it would surely save a lot of hassle.

    See its not about the day, its about the symbolism. Catholic Ireland still rules.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 646 ✭✭✭hungry hypno toad


    Who said anything about not managing? Your not only jumping to conclusions
    you leaping to them.

    If its only one day then why go to the bother of banning sale at all, it would surely save a lot of hassle.

    See its not about the day, its about the symbolism. Catholic Ireland still rules.

    Still rules? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,825 ✭✭✭lertsnim


    bubblypop wrote: »
    I'm sure if i had a pub or worked in one, i wouldn't mind a couple of days a year with the pub closed!

    Anyone who is working 363 days of the year needs to have a word with their boss. Also as previously mentioned there is nothing stopping a pub landlord from closing any day they like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭Nomis21


    If you are over 66 years old you can go on the train to Cork for free with your Free pass and get a beer in the bar on there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    Step 1: Feel offended.
    Step 2: Open up Boards.
    Step 3: Create a thread.
    Step 4: Convince yourself you have an argument.
    Step 5: Hopelessly defend yourself.
    Step 6: Lose your argument on Page 1.
    Step 7: Cop the fcuk on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭.........


    Catholic Church are not blocking it.

    Maybe look at the headlines tomorrow to see why it won't be overturned

    Indeed, the emergency services favourite day of the year. Street cleaners love the lack of blood, piss and puke as well. So do those living with domestic abuse due to alcohol abuse. One day in the year where it's reduced a little doesn't do anyone any harm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭76544567


    I'm not religious at all, and i like to drink too.
    I kind of like the good Friday and Christmas day alcohol bans.
    I think we should keep them.
    It doesn't hurt and it's kinda a nice thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    st patricks day used to be a dry day as well
    they changed it and now its national drinking day
    so if we changed good friday we could have 2 national drinking days

    yay economics

    http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/all-the-pubs-in-ireland-used-to-be-closed-on-st-patricks-day


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    76544567 wrote: »
    I'm not religious at all, and i like to drink too.
    I kind of like the good Friday and Christmas day alcohol bans.
    I think we should keep them.
    It doesn't hurt and it's kinda a nice thing.

    Why is it a nice thing? Why not ban it on the 10th of every month as well. Just to have it as a nice thing like.

    If a pub wants to close on good Friday it should be allowed to but I don't see why the law should be involved on that particular day. I mean I doubt I would go out good Friday but it is still a pointless law.


  • Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭76544567


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Why is it a nice thing? Why not ban it on the 10th of every month as well. Just to have it as a nice thing like.

    If a pub wants to close on good Friday it should be allowed to but I don't see why the law should be involved on that particular day. I mean I doubt I would go out good Friday but it is still a pointless law.

    Well we can do the 10th of every month if you want. But we already have two days and it's perfectly fine to me. But whatever you want to do about the 10ths, work away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 646 ✭✭✭hungry hypno toad


    Tigger wrote: »
    st patricks day used to be a dry day as well
    they changed it and now its national drinking day
    so if we changed good friday we could have 2 national drinking days

    yay economics

    http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/all-the-pubs-in-ireland-used-to-be-closed-on-st-patricks-day

    Why exactly would we want that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭.........


    Why exactly would we want that?

    because Diageo needs a replacement for the puke fest that was "Aurhur's Day" and Good Friday would be perfect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 646 ✭✭✭hungry hypno toad


    ......... wrote: »
    because Diageo needs a replacement for the puke fest that was "Aurhur's Day" and good Friday would be perfect.

    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Why is it a nice thing? Why not ban it on the 10th of every month as well. Just to have it as a nice thing like.

    If a pub wants to close on good Friday it should be allowed to but I don't see why the law should be involved on that particular day. I mean I doubt I would go out good Friday but it is still a pointless law.

    I totally agree. I'm a practicing Catholic and will not be drinking that week, but if the pubs were open it wouldn't be compulsory to drink. Let people drink on Good Friday if they wish.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭ygolometsipe


    Step 1: Feel offended.
    Step 2: Open up Boards.
    Step 3: Create a thread.
    Step 4: Convince yourself you have an argument.
    Step 5: Hopelessly defend yourself.
    Step 6: Lose your argument on Page 1.
    Step 7: Cop the fcuk on.

    That's a smug response.

    I lost the argument, really? Oh shucks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,430 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Its not about "stocking up". It would be nice to go for a meal on Friday and
    have some wine with food.

    Well, you seem to making the most of this Friday night champ.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,184 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    At least in the last few years, there are pubs opening and serving food. I know of one place that will be serving Irish coffee's. And having a mini market out the back. If this thread stays open for 4 weeks, I'll drip feed clues to its location.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭XsApollo


    Catholic Church are not blocking it.

    Maybe look at the headlines tomorrow to see why it won't be overturned

    I'm not saying the Catholic Church are blocking it.
    But it is a religious based reasoning on why the law is there or am I wrong?


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,184 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    I thought bit might have passed this year, but when presented to Francis Fitzgerald, she stone walled the idea. Her replacement might be more of the opinion. Who ever that may be.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,180 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    OP there is no restriction on drinking on Good Friday. The only restriction is on buying alcohol.

    If you are challenged by having to buy your alcohol up to 24 hours in advance, then I think you have bigger problems to be worrying about than Good Friday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,164 ✭✭✭Patser


    Could we organise a massive protest piss up outside the Dáil on Good Friday, where we all show up with random bottles of stuff like Raki, Ouzo, Limencello that were bought on holidays because it seemed the norm, or 6 year old bottles of Bailey's, Sheridans, sherry that we were given as Christmas presents yonks ago..

    You know, all that crap that you only drink on Good Friday anyway after you forget to stock up but get invited to a house party.

    Just imagine the technicolour vomit Ministers will have to step over even weeks later.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    On principle, I agree.

    But I still don't care that much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,444 ✭✭✭✭Skid X


    If Steps manage to get that ban overturned I'll raise a glass to them.

    Hopefully some other 90s Pop bands will join the campaign.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    bubblypop wrote: »
    Pubs are closed Christmas day as well.
    Should they open?

    If they want, yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    It's nothing to do with religion. So get over it.

    It kinda is though, in that it moves with a church day of obligation.
    Hasn't been an issue for tourism in the past.

    If you consider the pub trade to be a part of the tourism industry, it probably has been and continues to be an issue. It would be next to impossible to quantify how many tourists we lose out on due to the ban. It could be considerable, could be none.

    For the sake of tourists, I'd like to see pubs open on GF. It doesn't bother me and I can get a pint if I want anyway (probably in Connolly). A friend of mine hosts an annual 'crucifixion party' but I usually spend it with family if not working.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    You can buy weed on good friday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 646 ✭✭✭hungry hypno toad


    thee glitz wrote: »
    It kinda is though, in that it moves with a church day of obligation.



    If you consider the pub trade to be a part of the tourism industry, it probably has been and continues to be an issue. It would be next to impossible to quantify how many tourists we lose out on due to the ban. It could be considerable, could be none.

    For the sake of tourists, I'd like to see pubs open on GF. It doesn't bother me and I can get a pint if I want anyway (probably in Connolly). A friend of mine hosts an annual 'crucifixion party' but I usually spend it with family if not working.

    Who really cares? 1 day, so I'm guessing the effect in tourism is less than 1/3 of 1%. Hardly worth it.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    On Good Friday and Christmas Day, I am always envious of those in the Rovers Return having a drink.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,294 ✭✭✭thee glitz


    sugarman wrote: »
    These lads? Fair play to them

    Didn't you hear?
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