Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

riddles

This delta variant is there any information on the impact of it on teens medically speaking. Are people < 20 being hospitalised with it in Ireland?

HerrKapitan

Richard Hillman wrote: »

We were predicting this earlier in the week and it was described as "Fiction".

August comes and it will be all about the schools.
Cases go up because schools are back but the kids won't be vaccinated twice, so we gotta keep those cases down. October-November comes and the months are getting colder. We can't have what happened last year, we need to save Christmas. Cases go up anyway. Then they'll have to decide on Christmas.

Come January and the cases in 4 figures, the over 80s and vulnerable will need their booster shots. Then the over 60s will need their boosters. Hold Firm folks, 2 more weeks.

Wash, rinse, repeat.


Of course the HSE Data hack will still be going and we'll have no idea how many people are actually dieing.

You haven't described what exact date and time those are going to be announced and what colour tie MM will be wearing, so they must be fiction and next to impossible to be true.

PTH2009

Vaccines would be our way out of it but not in Ireland our experts are not happy that it's only 95% protection

What are going to do

Eivor

PTH2009 wrote: »

Vaccines would be our way out of it but not in Ireland our experts are not happy that it's only 95% protection

What are going to do

Emigrate! I was offered a job in Sweden at the start of the week and I’m finding it hard to come up with reasons not to leave this country.

MrMusician18

MrMusician18 wrote: »

What is the wrong decision? To slow down the opening of indoor dining for 2.5 weeks? In the grand scheme of things it's not even in the same league of some of the decisions made to date in terms of impact on the population.

Many of the businesses affected by your "slowing down for 2.5 weeks" are now in their eighteenth month of being prohibited from operating.

Airily waving your hand and dismissing it as "just two more weeks" is complete mendacity.

These are people's lives. People's jobs. People's homes. People's businesses. People's families. People's pensions. People's futures.

That you people are wilfully ignoring that and trying to paint is as "lol yous are a bunch of drunks angry you can't have a pint for two weeks!" is gaslighting hundreds of thousands of people who've been lied to and led on for almost a year and a half.

Here's a challenge. Pick any indoor-only "wet bar" in Dublin. Any one of the hundreds. Your choice.

You're insistent that that bar will be open in two and a half weeks.

Pick your bar. If it's still banned from operating three weeks today, the 22nd of July - more than your "two and a half weeks", you donate €1000 to charity.

Put your money where your mouth is, or close the latter and give up the cheerleading lies.

thebaz

PTH2009 wrote: »

Vaccines would be our way out of it but not in Ireland our experts are not happy that it's only 95% protection

What are going to do

lockdown indefinitly or forever, or at least until the money runs out

RobitTV

Holohan is becoming increasingly unhinged. He is not in a fit state to be offering any sort of advice.

This country is on the brink of real trouble. We have a massive leadership vacuum and now we have an unhinged medical officer throwing his weight around the corridors of government.

We are ****ed.

Santan

I would have been a sinn fein supporter since 1996 and admired their work on the peace process when every other main party just wanted to shut them up, but they kept going. I will now never support them looking at how their stance over the last 16 months. This is a party that if they had won the election would have had no problem in taking away a hell of a lot more of my rights than the shower that have been in there throughout all this. It does frighten me as to how quickly so many basic rights have tested from this virus, even thought ironically I would have agreed with most at the beginning but now I see how difficult it is to wrestle those powers back for elected people.

Fandymo

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

So, tell me tipp gunner, is there an acceptable level of death????

148 fatalities from collisions on Irish roads in 2020. Should we ban motor vehicles?

Is there an acceptable level of death??

namloc1980

PTH2009 wrote: »

Vaccines would be our way out of it but not in Ireland our experts are not happy that it's only 95% protection

What are going to do

That 95% "stat" that Nolan put out there is very worrying the more you think about it. If every man, woman and child in the country were vaccinated we'd still be told, "ah but 5% are still vulnerable, that's 250,000 people. We must protect them". There's no way out of this with the stuff coming out of NPHET members these last few days.

RobitTV

Michael Martin got a roasting last night at the FF parliamentary meeting.

FF TD Marc MacSharry said he has “no confidence” in the Taoiseach or Health Minister Stephen Donnelly and that he was “appalled” by what he termed as the “utter incompetence of recent days”

RobitTV

Remember folks - NPHET always know better than the rest of Europe.

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1410338765772623876

normanoffside

Tony denies NPHET is anti Alcohol then proceed to praise himself on his anti alcohol stance then goes off on how the virus loves alcohol with all his anecdotes

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1410640086279000073?s=21

RobitTV

normanoffside wrote: »

Tony denies NPHET is anti Alcohol then proceed to praise himself on his anti alcohol stance then goes off on how the virus loves alcohol with all his anecdotes

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1410640086279000073?s=21

This guy is better than Jimmy Carr when it comes to comedy.

funnydoggy

normanoffside wrote: »

Tony denies NPHET is anti Alcohol then proceed to praise himself on his anti alcohol stance then goes off on how the virus loves alcohol with all his anecdotes

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1410640086279000073?s=21

I won't be convinced until every person at that table does a shot together live on TV.

shockframe

normanoffside wrote: »

Tony denies NPHET is anti Alcohol then proceed to praise himself on his anti alcohol stance then goes off on how the virus loves alcohol with all his anecdotes

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1410640086279000073?s=21

The virus loves alcohol. Seems to hate schoolkids.

Sure Tony.

Zebra3

lawrencesummers wrote: »

He actually said on Tv

“If enough young people get COVID-19 Delta then someone somewhere will need to be hospitalized”

I agree. :cool:

Can arrange too.

RobitTV

“If enough young people get COVID-19 Delta then someone somewhere will need to be hospitalized”

"Someone somewhere will need to be hospitalized"

Sweet Jesus, this is incredibly concerning!

Level 5 needed now.

gozunda

retro:electro wrote: »

Tony on the news just there giving it welly about how deadly this new variant is, scaremongering galore and then when asked about Delta’s new symptoms he says “yes people are experiencing a range of mild symptoms. I’d urge anyone presenting with typical cold like symptoms to get tested”

What do you even say. Actual lol.

Did he say 'deadly?

I think one of the main things making the government concerned atm is the fact that the Delta variant is known to pose a risk of symptomatic infection for those with just one dose of vaccine but also those with none.

Atm vulnerable groups who are not yet fully vaccinated and remain at significant risk to the severe impact of covid include the 75% of 60-69 year olds and & 46% 50-59 year olds who have not yet received second dose; cohort 7 not yet complete.

That said saw this earier on the types of impact the Delta variant can have on an another wise healthy individual. He was interviewed on Sky but this is the gist of his experience of the illness.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irish-sky-news-correspondent-enda-24438092

I agree there's no need for scaremongering just a bit of common sense.

bloopy

Is there any way to know what the vaccine take up was in the under 40's.
The way they have been talking for the last day or two makes it look like this has less to do with indoor dining and more to do with 'encouraging' the young folk to get the vaccine.

gozunda

bloopy wrote: »

Is there any way to know what the vaccine take up was in the under 40's.
The way they have been talking for the last day or two makes it look like this has less to do with indoor dining and more to do with 'encouraging' the young folk to get the vaccine.

The 30s age group is currently scheduled for vaccination at MVCs. 20s are next. I'd say most of that type data for those cohorts would not be in yet.

RobitTV

RobitTV wrote: »

Remember folks - NPHET always know better than the rest of Europe.

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1410338765772623876

That's not on NPHET I'd say. It's just complete and utter incompetence/laziness on behalf of the people who should be working to implement it.

namloc1980

normanoffside wrote: »

Tony denies NPHET is anti Alcohol then proceed to praise himself on his anti alcohol stance then goes off on how the virus loves alcohol with all his anecdotes

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1410640086279000073?s=21

Reporter: Did yours and NPHETs stance on alcohol play any part in your recommendation to keep indoor hospitality closed?
Tony: Of course not, we didn't even discuss it. *Proceeds to give detailed answer where his stance on alcohol did indeed play a key role and trots out the "virus loves alcohol" line

A comedian is our Tony.

Whatsisname

Eivor wrote: »

Emigrate! I was offered a job in Sweden at the start of the week and I’m finding it hard to come up with reasons not to leave this country.

I emigrated 3 and a half years ago, 6 months after getting my degree. Haven’t looked back since. You won’t regret it.

They have planted the seeds of pubs and restaurants closing by the August bank holiday with that independent story. It's inevitable. Very frustrating.

PTH2009

More GAA games been used as 'trial events' this weekend but what is actually been trialed ?

Are they going to check up on every ticket holder a few days after the event to see if they went for a covid test etc

RobitTV

The news gets better and better - they are going to spend the next few weeks spreading fear

Link

Irish Independent: Nphet warns of ‘very significant transmission’ ahead of summer Delta wave as restrictions ‘not ruled out’

Health chiefs declined to rule out further restrictions later on in the summer.
“We’re going to experience very significant transmission,” said Chief Medical Officer Dr Tony Holohan.

buried

bloopy wrote: »

Is there any way to know what the vaccine take up was in the under 40's.
The way they have been talking for the last day or two makes it look like this has less to do with indoor dining and more to do with 'encouraging' the young folk to get the vaccine.

Went for my first vaccination last Sunday (early 40's) the public health nurse at the centre I went to told me the uptake in my age group was extremely low and there was a lot of N/A's to go with it. I also know 3 men who I work with, men in their mid 30's who have told me they won't be taking any vaccination under any circumstances.

Stheno

[Deleted User] wrote: »

They have planted the seeds of pubs and restaurants closing by the August bank holiday with that independent story. It's inevitable. Very frustrating.

What article?

buried

buried wrote: »

Went for my first vaccination last Sunday (early 40's) the public health nurse at the centre I went to told me the uptake in my age group was extremely low and there was a lot of N/A's to go with it. I also know 3 men who I work with, men in their mid 30's who have told me they won't be taking any vaccination under any circumstances.

I don't think there is any excuse to not take the vaccine. (Apart from medical condition) If you don't take the vaccine, you have no right to complain about lockdowns. They are a bigger problem than Tony Holohan.