COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

MethMartin

titan18 wrote: »

Something not factored into the predictions is people and now the EU going on about donating vaccines to Africa. It could set us back if that happens

I don't see it happening and it should not happen. Won't all EU countries need to agree?

They can get our excess vaccines after every adult in Ireland receives their vaccine.

Goldengirl

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I thought I'd be part of the group accelerated from group 7 but its not to be!

Yep, I know a well controlled diabetic who is contemplating falling off the wagon atm ! :pac:

ACitizenErased

Goldengirl wrote: »

Yep, I know a well controlled diabetic who is contemplating falling off the wagon atm ! :pac:

I'd be more concerned if not for how ambitious our vaccine programme is so I can wait a bit more!

marno21

According to the post by Apogee above, we'll have enough doses by the end of June to fully vaccinate 2.8m people excluding CureVac.

This in effect means we'll have received enough doses to fully vaccinate our entire adult population by some stage in July, even taking into account that AstraZeneca are acting like Stephen Donnelly is their CEO.

Full return to normality by August should be a reasonable assumption to make.

Dressoutlet

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I thought I'd be part of the group accelerated from group 7 but its not to be!

I'm happy to say I am now in group 4. Its not often Im happy to have my problems but I'll make the exception.

Goldengirl

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I'd be more concerned if not for how ambitious our vaccine programme is so I can wait a bit more!

Yes, the groups' change might not have moved some up , but the proposed rollout is reason to be optimistic alright,, fingers crossed.
Might yet have a decent summer ?

dominatinMC

Jesus Christ, Fergal Bowers on RTE news there saying there could be a need for restrictions next Winter - citing pressure on the hospital system as the effect of vaccines on transmission is unknown.
FFS, so frustrating. First, by then, won't the majority of the population be protected through vaccination and herd immunity. Of course there will still be cases and people will unfortunately get sick, some may regrettably pass, but that's inevitable and not justification for locking the bloody country. This was actually my fear all along, give the medics too much power and they'll never relent. It was some solace to hear the UK admit yesterday that they are reopening knowing that there will still be cases, illness, and even deaths post-vaccination. But that these incidences will not be significant enough post-vaccination to justify any more restrictions.
Secondly, and crucially, doesn't all evidence thus far show that vaccines are reducing transmission. There seems to be a reluctance in Ireland to acknowledge this.
It will be a damning indictment of the government if there are still restrictions next winter.

Water John

Yevon wrote: »

Is there any way of finding out if someone on an immunosuppressant is covered under the new Cohort 4? Is that a Gp decision?

There is a list, Dr Glynn said he believed it would be published. Not a GP decision.

Water John

dominatinMC wrote: »

Jesus Christ, Fergal Bowers on RTE news there saying there could be a need for restrictions next Winter - citing pressure on the hospital system as the effect of vaccines on transmission is unknown.
FFS, so frustrating. First, by then, won't the majority of the population be protected through vaccination and herd immunity. Of course there will still be cases and people will unfortunately get sick, some may regrettably pass, but that's inevitable and not justification for locking the bloody country. This was actually my fear all along, give the medics too much power and they'll never relent. It was some solace to hear the UK admit yesterday that they are reopening knowing that there will still be cases, illness, and even deaths post-vaccination. But that these incidences will not be significant enough post-vaccination to justify any more restrictions.
Secondly, and crucially, doesn't all evidence thus far show that vaccines are reducing transmission. There seems to be a reluctance in Ireland to acknowledge this.
It will be a damning indictment of the government if there are still restrictions next winter.

We don't close down for a flu outbreak. Covid will be like a heavy cold next winter if you're vaccinated.
Might be no harm doing the social distancing and masks in a flu outbreak.

Cork2021

dominatinMC wrote: »

Jesus Christ, Fergal Bowers on RTE news there saying there could be a need for restrictions next Winter - citing pressure on the hospital system as the effect of vaccines on transmission is unknown.
FFS, so frustrating. First, by then, won't the majority of the population be protected through vaccination and herd immunity. Of course there will still be cases and people will unfortunately get sick, some may regrettably pass, but that's inevitable and not justification for locking the bloody country. This was actually my fear all along, give the medics too much power and they'll never relent. It was some solace to hear the UK admit yesterday that they are reopening knowing that there will still be cases, illness, and even deaths post-vaccination. But that these incidences will not be significant enough post-vaccination to justify any more restrictions.
Secondly, and crucially, doesn't all evidence thus far show that vaccines are reducing transmission. There seems to be a reluctance in Ireland to acknowledge this.
It will be a damning indictment of the government if there are still restrictions next winter.

I’m an optimistic person the majority of the time, I’ve flicked through and read some of the ‘plan’
They’ve a full paragraph about the winter of 21/22 basically their worried about covid buts Influenza that’s the worry, now I’m 32 years old, not once in my lifetime or my parents or grandparents has the country lockdown for influenza (we do have vaccines) also and this could be bull, but doesn’t our flu season start with people bringing it into the country from Oceania and Asia? With travel restrictions still most likely in place we still stop a good shot of it and of course people personal hygiene will have improved all areas of work will continue with hand sanitizer everywhere going forward... and some people will still wear masks as it’ll probably become advice to wear one if sick or in danger of catching it.( I’m being optimistic about having the choice to wear one or not)

Gael23

Gael23 wrote: »

I was in group 7 in the original rollout but now I’m in the general population group

You'll be in cohort 7 at worst if you were originally in group 7.

I'm not one to praise the government or HSE much, but I'm very glad to see they have revised the groups a bit, I had felt some very vulnerable people would be waiting too long but the revised groups seem to correct this.

Mental Mickey

Myself and my wife both have disabilities and underlying health conditions.......we were in group 7, what group of people are we in now?

titan18

Think that puts me into group 7. Funnily, I would not have been this time last year but my BMI has increased since then cos of all the lockdowns. Definitely over 35 now.

Might also qualify cos of the severe depression category but not sure how they'll decide on that.

Bubbaclaus

Mental Mickey wrote: »

Myself and my wife both have disabilities and underlying health conditions.......we were in group 7, what group of people are we in now?

Either 4 or still in 7 depending on how high risk you are.

Micky 32

“” The Covid-19 restrictions in England could be lifted sooner than 21 June if real-world data on the effect of vaccines is better than expected, The Telegraph newspaper is reporting, citing British government sources.””

“” If the positive results from an early Public Health Scotland study on vaccines is replicated in England, "that would change the calculations on the timings””

Mental Mickey

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Either 4 or still in 7 depending on how high risk you are.

I was told that I'm high risk. Have been in and out of work numerous times over the last year on the advice of my GP. I'm currently out again......waiting for my GP to advise me further

Water John

Micky 32 wrote: »

“” The Covid-19 restrictions in England could be lifted sooner than 21 June if real-world data on the effect of vaccines is better than expected, The Telegraph newspaper is reporting, citing British government sources.””

“” If the positive results from an early Public Health Scotland study on vaccines is replicated in England, "that would change the calculations" on the tim ings””

We'll be getting there then too. All the elderly and vulnerable will be vaccinated at that point. We'll be vaccinating young adults at that point.

iamwhoiam

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You'll be in cohort 7 at worst if you were originally in group 7.

I'm not one to praise the government or HSE much, but I'm very glad to see they have revised the groups a bit, I had felt some very vulnerable people would be waiting too long but the revised groups seem to correct this.

Do you know where I can see the revised plan please ?

iamwhoiam

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Do you know where I can see the revised plan please ?

I'm not sure where it is on Gov websites but Gavan Reilly tweeted an image of the revised groups:

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1364314580588130314?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

noplacehere

I wonder what those changes have done to the numbers in the group and when those groups are expected to begin/end. Who are we vaccinating right now? Group 3? When is that expected to end?

ACitizenErased

noplacehere wrote: »

I wonder what those changes have done to the numbers in the group and when those groups are expected to begin/end. Who are we vaccinating right now? Group 3? When is that expected to end?

Its a weird one. They've recommended mRNA for group 4 as well so does it wait until the over 70s are done? Or do they start with group 5 using astrazeneca? No idea

Turtwig

That revised list is going generate a lot of unnecessary phone calls to gps at a time where they're not needed.

A detailed document needs to be published.

Water John

Turtwig wrote: »

That revised list is going generate a lot of unnecessary phone calls to gps at a time where they're not needed.

A detailed document needs to be published.

One suspects they'll get an email.

iamwhoiam

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm not sure where it is on Gov websites but Gavan Reilly tweeted an image of the revised groups:

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1364314580588130314?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Thank you very much

RugbyLad11

dominatinMC wrote: »

Jesus Christ, Fergal Bowers on RTE news there saying there could be a need for restrictions next Winter - citing pressure on the hospital system as the effect of vaccines on transmission is unknown.
FFS, so frustrating. First, by then, won't the majority of the population be protected through vaccination and herd immunity. Of course there will still be cases and people will unfortunately get sick, some may regrettably pass, but that's inevitable and not justification for locking the bloody country. This was actually my fear all along, give the medics too much power and they'll never relent. It was some solace to hear the UK admit yesterday that they are reopening knowing that there will still be cases, illness, and even deaths post-vaccination. But that these incidences will not be significant enough post-vaccination to justify any more restrictions.
Secondly, and crucially, doesn't all evidence thus far show that vaccines are reducing transmission. There seems to be a reluctance in Ireland to acknowledge this.
It will be a damning indictment of the government if there are still restrictions next winter.

Tin foil hats were laughed at when they said lockdowns are here to stay. Now I can imagine the government telling us that we need to lockdown in winter because hospitals are busy with flu patients.

Squeaksoutloud

Micky 32 wrote: »

“” The Covid-19 restrictions in England could be lifted sooner than 21 June if real-world data on the effect of vaccines is better than expected, The Telegraph newspaper is reporting, citing British government sources.””

“” If the positive results from an early Public Health Scotland study on vaccines is replicated in England, "that would change the calculations on the timings””

I really think the front loading effect of the vaccines as well as their abilities to reduce transmission are really being underestimated at this moment in time. It's like the government expect another Christmas event to happen of relaxing restrictions when all indications from every stat and graph I have seen is that logically we will be in a much better.place by mid April. Obviously we need to hope UK plan comes together as it will indicate where we are heading a few weeks after them.

Gael23

Deleted User wrote: »

You'll be in cohort 7 at worst if you were originally in group 7.

I'm not one to praise the government or HSE much, but I'm very glad to see they have revised the groups a bit, I had felt some very vulnerable people would be waiting too long but the revised groups seem to correct this.

Yes your right it looks like I’m still in group 7.

Those in group 4 are the ones that would die if they get the virus which should have been spotted long before now

Happydays2020

Gael23 wrote: »

Yes your right it looks like I’m still in group 7.

Those in group 4 are the ones that would die if they get the virus which should have been spotted long before now

Was nuts they were not prioritised on the initial list.

rubberdungeon

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Do you know where I can see the revised plan please ?

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0223/1198926-vaccine-rollout-strategy/

There’s some information on the RTÉ website

lucernarian

Goldengirl wrote: »

Yep, I know a well controlled diabetic who is contemplating falling off the wagon atm ! :pac:

I hope they don't. That's kinda like "Imma make myself much more vulnerable than I am just to get a vaccine quicker".