COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

MerlinSouthDub

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1364286688084840449?s=20

That's great. Things are going to look an awful lot better by end April. I'm still very optimistic it's going to be a fantastic summer!

VonLuck

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

Who is David Higgins and on what does he base his assertion pubs will definitely open on?

Also, summer.

Summer in Ireland is an opinion. It can be between April and September depending on your take on it.

The pubs should be open yesterday, but the vaccine timeframe means that by right they should be open by late April- all vulnerable plus some vaccinated.

He's an economist. I don't believe he ever said they will definitely open.

JP Liz V1

VACCINATIONS - Taoiseach has said he expects 82% of adults to have had their first dose by the end of June.
He said 1.2 million first doses would be administered by the end of March and 1.1 million doses during April, May and June.

funnydoggy

Jesus above I swore I'd not look on Twitter anymore.

A post by someone saying that Micheal calling the variant a new virus is "bull****" and not to believe it. Grand.

In the same conversation, he said "I feel he's hinting at something the vaccine makers are unwilling to admit ahead of a sizable proportion of the public being vaccinated."


Mother of god, these people..

funnydoggy

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

VACCINATIONS - Taoiseach has said he expects 82% of adults to have had their first dose by the end of June.
He said 1.2 million first doses would be administered by the end of March and 1.1 million doses during April, May and June.

Hope you're feeling okay!

JTMan

eoinbn wrote: »

AstraZeneca - 80-90m was what I was expecting given their problems. They might be able to exceed that.
Curevac could start shipping in the second half of Q2 but it won't make a huge difference.
Novavax are boosting about some huge production numbers - 150m a month from May. The EU hasn't signed a contract yet but there is a chance we could see some vaccines from them in May/June.

The government vaccine projection figures seem like highly conservative estimates.

Novavax are excluded from the estimates. AZ figures are at the bottom end of expectations.

If 82% of adults (will more than 82% want it?) will have had their first dose by the end of June is based on the conservative estimates, then maybe the reality will be early to mid June when all adults who want the vaccine have their first dose, when the additional supply is factored in.

Knex*

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1364286688084840449?s=20

Deathofcool wrote: »

Nice graphic here

https://twitter.com/FineGael/status/1364289259788791809?s=19

I'm starting to get excited.

JTMan

Interesting WSJ article today here (paywall) on the Novavax vaccine.

- Novavax says it could produce a couple billion doses over the next year, beginning around April, equal to or more than those expected from Pfizer, Moderna, and AstraZeneca.
- Vaccine believed to have better durability.
- Its vaccine approach is similar to those of proven vaccines, such as those for shingles and hepatitis B.
- Company was running out of cash last year. CEO told Trump "we need money” and was granted significant sums from the US and from a Norway-based nonprofit.
- Relatively low dose level that should support mass production and enable supplies to be stretched out.
- Results of the large U.S.-based trial could be available by late March.

Cork2021

The vaccine is going to have a great effect before the end of March. Already seeing it with a lot less HCW and long term facilities outbreaks

Mullaghteelin

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

Also, summer.

Summer in Ireland is an opinion. It can be between April and September depending on your take on it.

That's general ignorance. A sunny day or two in April and Irish people suddenly start calling it Summer!
Summer is June to August inclusive, the warmest months being July & August.

Stark

Traditionally, "summer" in Ireland has been May, June, July.

Danzy

Mullaghteelin wrote: »

That's general ignorance. A sunny day or two in April and Irish people suddenly start calling it Summer!
Summer is June to August inclusive, the warmest months being July & August.

They are often very bad weather wise,

hynesie08

Mullaghteelin wrote: »

That's general ignorance. A sunny day or two in April and Irish people suddenly start calling it Summer!
Summer is June to August inclusive, the warmest months being July & August.

Unless you follow the Irish school system, then it's may - July

speckle

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It is below normal up to day 7 as known cases will not be getting the vaccine. It tends to the mean as unknown cases on vaccination or those who contact it just after vaccination but before immune response show up in the data, and then rapidly declines as immunity kicks in

Thanks I was thinking along those lines but I am a bit out of the loop. It was also why I was asking CM re if everyone waited the 15 minutes together in a small un ventillated room.. seems like a weak point? Maybe GP practises should use their largest room or more than one with maxium ventillation?

Micky 32

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I must admit I'm surprised at how ambitious the vaccine rollout is from the Taoiseach's speech. I hope he delivers!

…and his statement “ the end is now truly in sight”

lee_baby_simms

Micky 32 wrote: »

…and his statement “ the end is now truly in sight”

He was referring to his own political career there.

irishgeo

They haven't included J&J vaccine in the figures. I think the lack of people to dish out the vaccine is going to be the issue rather than a lack of vaccine.

hmmm

eoinbn wrote: »

Novavax are boosting about some huge production numbers - 150m a month from May. The EU hasn't signed a contract yet but there is a chance we could see some vaccines from them in May/June.

Novavax I'll believe it when I see it.

A wildcard here is the US. Gottlieb thinks that by the end of April they will be facing "demand problems". Potentially you have a US which has very little virus and a huge manufacturing capacity and will begin exporting. Pfizer & Moderna alone are aiming for a combined 28 million doses a week in the US.

Stheno

hmmm wrote: »

Novavax I'll believe it when I see it.

A wildcard here is the US. Gottlieb thinks that by the end of April they will be facing "demand problems". Potentially you have a US which has very little virus and a huge manufacturing capacity and will begin exporting. Pfizer & Moderna alone are aiming for a combined 28 million doses a week in the US.

Demand problems due to people not wanting the vaccine?

beggars_bush

Mullaghteelin wrote: »

That's general ignorance. A sunny day or two in April and Irish people suddenly start calling it Summer!
Summer is June to August inclusive, the warmest months being July & August.

May was the warmest month last year

stephenjmcd

irishgeo wrote: »

They haven't included J&J vaccine in the figures. I think the lack of people to dish out the vaccine is going to be the issue rather than a lack of vaccine.

They have, 200k a month from April

marno21

Too much vaccine not enough people to vaccinate/not able to vaccinate as fast as they receive it in.

The US and UK will have surplus vaccines by mid summer. The supply issues we've been facing will diminish meaning even more vaccine for us.

One of the reasons Pfizer has been slow at delivering vaccines to the EU is that due to the US export vaccines, Canada and some other countries that were meant to get Pfizer vaccine from the plant in Michigan have to get it from the plant in Belgium instead.

Outside of our well informed boards bubble, I don't think the general public realise how much the vaccine output is going to mushroom in Q2.

hmmm

Stheno wrote: »

Demand problems due to people not wanting the vaccine?

His argument was that about 40% of the population have already had the virus, so it won't take many vaccinations before disease levels start to drop - particularly with the better weather in Spring/Summer. We might already be seeing that.

He thinks that during April the US may find itself with more vaccines than they have people who want them.

They're at about 13% vaccinated last time I looked.

titan18

Something not factored into the predictions is people and now the EU going on about donating vaccines to Africa. It could set us back if that happens

stephenjmcd

New priority list

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1364314580588130314?s=19

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Gael23

I was in group 7 in the original rollout but now I’m in the general population group

ACitizenErased

I thought I'd be part of the group accelerated from group 7 but its not to be!

ACitizenErased

mRNA have been recommended for the highly vulnerable people now too:
"NIAC has also recommended that while any of the three currently authorised vaccines can be given to adults aged 16-69, mRNA vaccines should be preferentially given to those aged 16-69 years at very high or high risk who have certain medical conditions which may limit their immune response to the vaccine"

Apogee

Vaccine forecasted supply from the updated government plan:
https://t.co/yTVEpN0HjE?amp=1

Manach

As an update to earlier post about an over 85 year old who is housebound. The GP made contact today and confirmed that the HSE have now placed them on a list. However no feedback yet as to when the vaccine will be available to people in these circumstances or who is to administer it.