COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

is_that_so

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

I'm hoping the backlash will be strong and the government will force them to re-adjust the age restrictions to something more proportionate. Madness.

Where is this backlash going to come from?

Russman

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

I'm hoping the backlash will be strong and the government will force them to re-adjust the age restrictions to something more proportionate. Madness.

Who gets to decide what’s appropriate on a medical issue ?

Multipass

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

I'm hoping the backlash will be strong and the government will force them to re-adjust the age restrictions to something more proportionate. Madness.

There won’t be a backlash - Irrational health anxiety has become a national pastime, and they’ve moved on from fear of covid onto fear of the vaccines. I’m almost looking forward to the next wave, when side effects from Pfizer get publicity.

IRISHSPORTSGUY

is_that_so wrote: »

Where is this backlash going to come from?

Communication from constituents
Social media reaction
The media
TDs (hopefully Cabinet Ministers) with a bit of cop on

Some scientists in their cushy public sector jobs needs to touch base with the real world here.

maviesk

Vaccine press conference at 7.30pm..

User1998

hmmm wrote: »

Allow people to sign waivers and get the AZ vaccine if there is unused surplus.

The idea that a "couple of weeks" delay in the vaccination programme is trivial is unreal. A quarter of the country is out of work.

There shouldn’t even be a waiver. The chance of blood clotting is so small. If thats the case then you should be signing a waiver for every prescription/medicine/vaccine you ever take.

Ridiculous

Rebelbrowser

maviesk wrote: »

Vaccine press conference at 7.30pm..

Given Fergal Bowers story was published at lunchtime and there's been no confirmation since I wouldn't be surprised if its a different story at this press conference. Clearly there has been a lot of talking since 1pm. Whatever issues we can see with this decision, those involved in the vaccine rollout will have seen many fold more. Hopefully sense has prevailed and its over 55s or 50s.

funnydoggy

Where's the press conference happening online?

Russman

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

Communication from constituents
Social media reaction
The media
TDs (hopefully Cabinet Ministers) with a bit of cop on

Some scientists in their cushy public sector jobs needs to touch base with the real world here.

Replace medical experts with effective mob rule ?

IRISHSPORTSGUY

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

Communication from constituents
Social media reaction
The media
TDs (hopefully Cabinet Ministers) with a bit of cop on

Some scientists in their cushy public sector jobs needs to touch base with the real world here.

Some of us are quite happy to trust the experts here. Again, it's not just Ireland. Most of Western Europe, Canada and Australia are doing similar. It's not going to impact the rollout as badly as some are claiming.

bodhrandude

funnydoggy wrote: »

Where's the press conference happening online?

I presume RTE News Now or something like that.

Turtwig

Russman wrote: »

Replace medical experts with effective mob rule ?

You got it in one!:D What couldn't go wrong with this?

Godot.

Insanity. People are more likely to develop a blood clot from a contraceptive pill than the AZ vaccine.

60+ is far too restrictive.

lbj666

Rebelbrowser wrote: »

Given Fergal Bowers story was published at lunchtime and there's been no confirmation since I wouldn't be surprised if its a different story at this press conference. Clearly there has been a lot of talking since 1pm. Whatever issues we can see with this decision, those involved in the vaccine rollout will have seen many fold more. Hopefully sense has prevailed and its over 55s or 50s.

It warrants a press conference regardless of whether there is inconsistency or not.

Rebelbrowser

lbj666 wrote: »

It warrants a press conference regardless of whether there is inconsistency or not.

Sure. But if the second meeting, which Fergal Bowers said was ongoing in an article published at ca. 2pm, was just rubber stamping an earlier decision, the press conference would surely have been at 4pm or some such, not 7.30pm. I'm just speculating that the second meeting turned out to be much longer and, therefore, may have involved a rethink....

Godot.

Godot. wrote: »

Insanity. People are more likely to develop a blood clot from a contraceptive pill than the AZ vaccine.

60+ is far too restrictive.

They are very different types of clot. One in four CVST cases from the AZ vaccine result in death. Mortality rates for VTEs from the pill are nowhere near that.

ddarcy

Rebelbrowser wrote: »

Sure. But if the second meeting, which Fergal Bowers said was ongoing in an article published at ca. 2pm, was just rubber stamping an earlier decision, the press conference would surely have been at 4pm or some such, not 7.30pm. I'm just speculating that the second meeting turned out to be much longer and, therefore, may have involved a rethink....

There’s ramifications from the decision that will need to be dealt with.

On the restrictions. A quick Google search has:
Germany above 60
Italy above 60
France above 55
Canada above 55
Australia above 50
Greece above 30
UK above 30

Obviously I’m not putting in upper limits as I’m too lazy to find them, but those are the current lower limits.

Beasty

New Megathreads splitting between:
Testing
and
Vaccines