Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

Tippex

So trump gets banned from twitter.
He tweets from @potus and twitter deleted the tweets.
Them he posted the tweets on @teamtrump so they suspend that account too.
They are playing Whack-a-mole with him tonight how long before the rest of the family gets banned?

Kaybaykwah

Kumejima wrote: »

By deplatforming Trump, you are by implication, deplatforming the 75 million people who voted for him. Moreover, you are deplatforming and silencing the duly elected leader of your country. If you cannot see the dangerous implications of this, not merely in terms of free speech but purely in terms of any hopes of unifying the country you're hopelessly biased. If you say to people, "Your politics are unacceptable and are to be silenced, your views are bigoted and must be suppressed, your very existence and ability to speak must be removed from our collective airwaves", what then do you expect them to do exactly? Create your own platform a la Parler. Oops no, the Left will ban that too.

If you don't give people an option to air their grievances or call them bigoted racists when they do, what other recourse then is left to them to seek justice?

"**** em" - yeah you can get away with that sort of if you're dealing with a small minority with no power, purely pragmatically speaking.
This however is literally half your electorate, many of whom are heavily armed. How can you have "HEALING" as Biden called for, when only one side is allowed to speak and one side is denied any opportunity to express anything?

"A riot is the language of the unheard" is a phrase by Martin Luther King trotted out during the BLM protests. When the conservative white guys start rioting, as I believe they will, the Left will go " See - white males are the greatest terrorist threat in this country" and use it as an excuse to clamp down on their enemies even more. But you've left them literally no other avenue of expression to be heard.

Yes, a lot of people invested in this guy, and they are pissed off at the poor returns. I would think most of them are a lot more upset at losing to the democrats and their policies coming in than with Chump losing it. He is still a force to be reckoned with IMO. He won't be neutered unless he is legally prevented from entering another race.

Real Donald Trump

All the snowflakes can rest easy now. The big scary man is banned

jill_valentine

markodaly wrote: »

Eventually, Biden and Co. will have to govern and actually do some policy work.

This sounds like a terrific burn if you know absolutely nothing about Biden.

I remember during the election people kept demanding Biden's policies on x or y. We kept linking to them and they wouldn't read them because they were too detailed and the next page asked for them again.

We asked them to link to Trump's equivalent ones, but they... Weren't to be found at all.

So, for example, I'm sure the healthcare plan Trump announced was just around the corner any moment now for years was JUST about to be announced any moment now until he tried to end democracy in America. But in the meantime, here's Biden's -- https://joebiden.com/healthcare/

Biden started recieving his Covid 19 briefings in October btw. How many do you think Trump sat all the way through?

Junkyard Tom

markodaly wrote: »

I love the irony of self-identifying left-wingers preach about the right of capitalist corporations being allowed to do what they want.

Eh.. what was being mocked was those who claim to be champions of 'free market' capitalism crying about a private company deciding to ban Trump.

You need to send your irony-meter in for repair. Are you upset that Trump has been kicked off Twitter?

I guess we'll have to look at twitters share price on Monday. The market, and all that.

Overheal

flazio wrote: »

According to a Wikipedia article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_Codes
The Secretary of Defence cannot veto the use of the Gold codes but my reading of that is he could delay long enough for Pence to invoke the 25th Amendment.

I still had a tab open way back in thread, saw this post; I think with the 'defacto 25th' state Axios reports the WH is operating in, I DOUBT they'd indicate any and all ways what the real situation is (national security, Mutually Assured Destruction, the most serious of &#!t), but I do have strong suspicions that those gold codes would not be on his person and if they are its because he's not in a position to do something absolutely biblically insane because we honestly don't know what his state of mind is. I imagine at a certain point he might even be placed on suicide watch if not already.

markodaly

everlast75 wrote: »

They need to be bitch slapped for at least two years, for the dems to be utterly ruthless.

Show them what it's like to be on the receiving end of partisan politics.

After that, *maybe* talk cooperation but until then, no mercy

Why do you have to use misogynist language?

Where is the call for Unity that 'your' guy Biden has been talking about?

mcmoustache

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

ah yes CNN, owned by that well known socialist workers collective AT&T

Anyone thinking that corporate media is left wing really needs to take a long hard look at themselves and ask how they became the way that they are because something clearly went wrong somewhere.

markodaly

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Eh.. what was being mocked was those who claim to be champions of 'free market' capitalism crying about a private company deciding to ban Trump.

You need to send your irony-meter in for repair. Are you upset that Trump has been kicked off Twitter?

Upset? Why would I be upset about it? Its not my account and I rarely use Twitter.
There is irony on both sides here but I guess the left is neo-liberal when it suits them.

Anyway, all this does is put the squeeze on the big Silicon Valley companies. They will be broken up in due course, the EU is well on the path for a while now and this will make Silicon Valley the enemy for approx 45-47% of Americans and the GOP.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/12/11/facebook-breakup-antitrust/

The Big Tech stock ride could be bursting?

mcmoustache

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/parlertakes/status/1347680738586447872?s=19

He sounds like he's suffering from a derangement of sorts. Possibly Trump related.

markodaly

mcmoustache wrote: »

Anyone thinking that corporate media is left wing really needs to take a long hard look at themselves and ask how they became the way that they are because something clearly went wrong somewhere.

American media picks its audience and goes from there.

If there is a Republican in the WH, the likes of CNN and MSNBC will crank up the outrage.
If there is a Democrat in the WH, the likes of FoxNews and talk radio will crank up the outrage.

The open secret is that Trump has been very very good to MSM media outlets like CNN and NBC.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2020-11-23/cable-tv-news-donald-trump-fox-news-cnn-msnbc

Now that Trump is off the stage, what else can these media outlets offer rather than consistent outrage?
People will simply tune out and do some gardening or something, leaving a big hole in the balance sheet.

Its like the end of the Sopranos! What will HBO come out with next? :D
Biden may be many things but exciting, outragous and new is not one of them.

markodaly

jill_valentine wrote: »

This sounds like a terrific burn if you know absolutely nothing about Biden.

I remember during the election people kept demanding Biden's policies on x or y. We kept linking to them and they wouldn't read them because they were too detailed and the next page asked for them again.

We asked them to link to Trump's equivalent ones, but they... Weren't to be found at all.

So, for example, I'm sure the healthcare plan Trump announced was just around the corner any moment now for years was JUST about to be announced any moment now until he tried to end democracy in America. But in the meantime, here's Biden's -- https://joebiden.com/healthcare/

Biden started recieving his Covid 19 briefings in October btw. How many do you think Trump sat all the way through?

See, even in your retort, you mentioned Trump 3 times.
I guess there will be a lot of that in the next few months and years.

To be clear, I am not saying Biden has no policies, my post was about Biden actually running the country and enacting those policies with the help of Congress, rather then all arms of government focusing on who the last president was.

Strumms

Kumejima wrote: »

By deplatforming Trump, you are by implication, deplatforming the 75 million people who voted for him. Moreover, you are deplatforming and silencing the duly elected leader of your country.

If he broke twitters terms of use, they are correct to ban..

Twitter are also protecting themselves... if it kicks off, and there is a lot of collateral damage, violence or worse... Twitter could be sued.... it looks like Trump has tried to insight violence going by what twitter is saying... and his tweets... he’s been careful with his language but he’s it’s obvious he’s stoking...

basillarkin

mcmoustache wrote: »

He sounds like he's suffering from a derangement of sorts. Possibly Trump related.

Wtf was that gibberish

rossie1977

markodaly wrote: »

Upset? Why would I be upset about it? Its not my account and I rarely use Twitter.
There is irony on both sides here but I guess the left is neo-liberal when it suits them.

Anyway, all this does is put the squeeze on the big Silicon Valley companies. They will be broken up in due course, the EU is well on the path for a while now and this will make Silicon Valley the enemy for approx 45-47% of Americans and the GOP.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/12/11/facebook-breakup-antitrust/

The Big Tech stock ride could be bursting?

Big tech along with TV and talk radio have enabled far right conspiracies and recruitment for decades now.

jill_valentine

Zip Tie guys were both ID'd with Ronan Farrow's involvement, chap is having quite a streak -

https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1347764665821102084

flazio

Here's hoping....
https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1347727907142184961?s=19

Chris_Heilong

markodaly wrote: »

American media picks its audience and goes from there.

If there is a Republican in the WH, the likes of CNN and MSNBC will crank up the outrage.
If there is a Democrat in the WH, the likes of FoxNews and talk radio will crank up the outrage.

The open secret is that Trump has been very very good to MSM media outlets like CNN and NBC.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2020-11-23/cable-tv-news-donald-trump-fox-news-cnn-msnbc

Now that Trump is off the stage, what else can these media outlets offer rather than consistent outrage?
People will simply tune out and do some gardening or something, leaving a big hole in the balance sheet.

Its like the end of the Sopranos! What will HBO come out with next? :D
Biden may be many things but exciting, outragous and new is not one of them.

And the issues is that they run with narratives instead of truth, so much blood is on the medias hands at this stage as low information viewers/readers believe all they hear and get angry in situations where if they knew the truth in the situations being "reported" they would not feel this way and America as a whole would be less divided, With out the media stoking the fires Riots would not have happened over George Floyd, Riots would not have happened in Capital Hill. Twitter has a lot to answer for also as it is a right echo chamber at this stage.

jimmycrackcorm

Robert ninja wrote: »

What a joke. Big tech are almost all exclusively far left woke machines and they do not try to hide it.

Big tech is what enables alt right. Without big tech there wouldn't be the likes of Alex jones. It's not hidden.

Leroy42

I remember after Trump won in 2016 that a favorite meme of his supporters was the pic of the woman screaming.

Lots of glee at telling people to get over it, you lost. Popular vote lost, who cares it the EC that's important, that's the system.

Now look at them. Staging attempted siege of the capital, crying because twitter banned someone, saying the system is broken and their feelings need to be taken into account.

Suddenly there is a big worry about 75m that voted for Trump. I can't recall if there was the same worry about the actual majority of voters in 2016 not getting what they wanted.

And free speech? How many times has Trump refused to answer a reporters question simply because the network they worked for? How many interviews has he given CNN, MSNBC? He tried to remove peoples press privileges.

jimmycrackcorm

Kumejima wrote: »

By deplatforming Trump, you are by implication, deplatforming the 75 million people who voted for him. Moreover, you are deplatforming and silencing the duly elected leader of your country.

Trump isn't being deplatformed. He still has Fox news and Tucker. He's just being prevented from getting his sedditionists to overthrow the constitution.
Surely thats a good thing.

Im all for not silencing Tucker. People need to see the crazy.

Sonics2k

I went to sleep and woke up to find all this madness.

It's also painfully ironic to see a bunch of Republicans and Conservatives complaining about Twitter banning Trump. Those same people who support a free market, small government and keep government out of private businesses are claiming free speech is violated.

A private platform can not violate your free speech.

sydthebeat

Robert ninja wrote: »

And when they make private websites they get their hosting struck down/compromised, but they don't have a 'right' to that either. When they try to get funded the payment processors blacklist them, they don't have a right to those too? It's impossible for anyone but big corporations to set have their own hosting, DDoS protection, payment processing etc and that's just the way they like it.

Nothing stopping them grabbing a soap box and standing in a street corner.

That's free speech

listermint

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Big tech is what enables alt right. Without big tech there wouldn't be the likes of Alex jones. It's not hidden.

It's one of the great conundrums of the far right thinking plebs.

It's grown legs and allowed more people share lies and misinformation over the last 5 years than at any point in history.

Yet they are somehow at the same time surpressed......

If the 2 core platforms didn't exist at all. Brexit and trump would never have happened. And mark would be out there moaning about something else.

tigger123

Sonics2k wrote: »

I went to sleep and woke up to find all this madness.

It's also painfully ironic to see a bunch of Republicans and Conservatives complaining about Twitter banning Trump. Those same people who support a free market, small government and keep government out of private businesses are claiming free speech is violated.

A private platform can not violate your free speech.

Trump can say whatever he wants. It doesn't mean Twitter or any other platform have to broadcast it.

everlast75

flazio wrote: »

https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1347727907142184961?s=19

Says Rudy, while butt dialing another reporter and then farting down the phone.

It's the same BS argument from Republicans. They want certain rights but aren't prepared to take responsibility for those rights. They're like teenagers.

They want guns but don't want them taken away when there's a mass shooting.

They want free speech but don't want the responsibility of having that taken away when it incites a riot.

Everyone has rights under the constitution but when those rights affect others in a dangerous way, this rights are subject to being taken away.

Trump and his a hole buddies received multiple warnings. This didn't happen out of the blue.

People literally died as a direct result of what Trump et al did. There's no question of that and it is more likely that more people will die unless Trump's rhetoric was and is stopped.

It is like taking the keys off a drunk driver after he's run over a few people. Taking the keys away is the right thing to do, but you'd have some idiot Republican screaming "i have a driver's licence!".

Reminds me of that scene from Southpark - " oh I'm sorry. I thought this was america!"

Anyhoo, this was funny

https://twitter.com/faination/status/1347734360355528705?s=19

twinytwo

markodaly wrote: »

I think people need a bit of a history lesson.
Trump entered the presidential race for the GOP nomination in 2016 and no one took him seriously. Everyone thought that the ultimate race would be Jebb Bush (remember him) vs Hillary Clinton....
Trump enters the race and destroys them all. He ****ed over the GOP establishment...
... then he went on to win the White House against the Clinton machine..

Unbelievable stuff tbh, one of the biggest political upsets in history.

Even with everything that happened this year, he did well enough in the presidential elections, falling short in a few key states.

One more thought. It has been concluded by the vast majority of data scientists and pollsters that if it were not for Covid-19 Trump would be reinaugurated on Jan 20th easily.

It had to take a one in a 100-year pandemic to force him from office.

This is why the Democrats are going for the juggler now with the impeachment process. They still fear him, and what he stands for. They want to try and slay the beast once and for all but if they do, they could make things a hell of a lot worse for themselves in the long run.

One thing the Democrats and the left always do, they overreach and believe their own morality is superior to anyone else. This is all political showmanship dressed up as morality. They are thinking about the next 10 years, which they want to dominate politically and bend the GOP to their will.

Again, overreaching because in 2022 when the midterms will be on us, many of them will be ****ed out of office, just like what happened in 2010 with Obama and 96 with Clinton.

Dont believe me?

It is common knowledge now that the way the Democrats handled the SCOTUS nomination of Brett Kavanaugh cost the Democrats the Senate in 2018. And because of that, they lost another pick at the Supreme Court....

It's like a universal law of physics, the Democrats will overreach.

Yawn and if trump had been running against anyone but Clinton he wouldn't have won either.

The man is a laughing stock and a disgrace of a human being, who has clear psychological problems. He should never have been allowed hold office in the first place.

You with a straight face think Trump is fit for a second term?

Him and his family should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

everlast75

I said this before going to bed last night

https://twitter.com/ErinBrockovich/status/1347700082704003079?s=19

People on here seem to forget that there are rules of being on boards ffs. They should understand this situation and what has happened. Go check out the rules for being on here.

For Trump, it's more about that twitter was effective for him to spout bs to people who would never pick up a paper or even fact t check what he says, than host a press conference and be challenged by reporters.

listermint

twinytwo wrote: »

Yawn and if trump had been running against anyone but Clinton he wouldn't have won either.

The man is a laughing stock and a disgrace of a human being, who has clear psychological problems. He should never have been allowed hold office in the first place.

You with a straight face think Trump is fit for a second term?

Him and his family should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

I don't think that's even a concern.


He's a beacon, trump represents all of their gripes with the world and their place in it. Literally anger personified. He doesn't even have to offer solutions to their problems.


Just 'be' just 'exist'


They love the anger part .