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Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    briany wrote: »
    ...and he still needs to be watched for the next two weeks at the very least.

    Ah the echoes of the Bishops of old - they need to be monitored.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,861 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Going to be a complete sh1tshow on the 20th. If Trump get's impeached literally anything can happen then.

    I’d be hard pressed to see how he can’t be impeached.... what the fûck will happen is right..

    I’ve family in NY state and Florida, I’m feeling a bit concerned... the NY gang are rural enough and let’s say, not without protection and resources, but my Aunt in Florida is 85, good health ok, still active, healthy and driving etc but her nearest daughter a widow also is an hour away...

    I’m stating to believe this whole fûcking thing is orchestrated... Trump, covid, election, fallout.... Russia ? Are Russia backing the Donald ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Robert ninja


    briany wrote: »
    Deplatforming is a good tool to stifle further radicalisation
    - the radical left


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,116 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Anyone with a functioning brain knows it's not a good idea to prove conspiracy theorists right whilst simultaneously pushing them to the darker corners of the Internet.

    These people don't just magically cease to exist because they can't leave mean replies on AOCs tweets any more. You've just shoved them off to various other places where they are much harder to keep track of.

    Yep.

    We've had four years of appeasing these idiots and look where that got us.

    Isn't it incredible the "**** your feelings" crowd all of a sudden want to talk reconciliation, when they lost the senate and the White House.

    America has been in an abusive relationship with Trump for the last 4 years and has finally woken up.

    **** his supporters and **** trump.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,813 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    CNN saying he tired to use another account, and twitter shut it down too .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,412 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Anyone with a functioning brain knows it's not a good idea to prove conspiracy theorists right whilst simultaneously pushing them to the darker corners of the Internet.

    These people don't just magically cease to exist because they can't leave mean replies on AOCs tweets any more. You've just shoved them off to various other places where they are much harder to keep track of.

    But that's where they came from. And it was grand before.

    Push them back..


    No one needs their Ma to be a right wing radical on Facebook. No one.


    Back off to Tor with them . The notion that the majority of spanners will follow is laughable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,127 ✭✭✭This is it


    When Trump told his supporters '' to be strong, to go down there and cheer on the republicans , not so much some of them '' .... no one was in shock and falling out of their chair.
    If it was such a shocking statement at the time why didn't they act to protect the Capitol Building. CNN is playing that clip over and over and over. I don't get it, shocking now, but not at the time.?

    I don't even know how you can use those words against him.

    Is there any point in someone responding to you? Throughout the thread you claim you're not a Trump supporter. You make wild accusations and assertions, and when called on you then disappear for a few hours before returning to do the same again a few hours later. Yesterday Trump's concession was a "DeepFake" video according to you :rolleyes:

    Trump incited the taking over of the Capitol;
    Speaking to an agitated crowd just before many in the crowd began marching to the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday, the president and several of his closest allies reiterated baseless claims that the White House was being fraudulently stolen from Trump.

    "We're just not going to let" Joe Biden become president, Trump declared. "We're going to have to fight much harder. … We're going to walk down to the Capitol, and … you have to show strength, and you have to be strong."


    Trump's son Donald Trump Jr. told the crowd, "If you just roll over, if you don't fight in the face of glaring irregularities and statistical impossibilities … if you're going to be the zero and not the hero, we are coming for you."

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/dont-expect-charges-trump-allies-inciting-capitol-siege/story?id=75141278


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,861 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    That's not going to happen. The next 4 years will be a victory lap for the Democrats after they vanquished Hitler 2.0 and everything they **** up will still be his fault and everything they achieve will be in spite of "post Trump difficulties".

    Then comes the surprised pikachu face when Ted Cruz or Alex Jones or whoever murders them in the 2024 election.

    The dems need to draw a line under it... service normality... they need to starve the right of any and all oxygen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    I wonder if the non sequiter deflection gibberish here will get a little more varied now without himself or a lot of the Q Bots on social media to call the tune?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,062 ✭✭✭✭briany




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    Strumms wrote: »
    The dems need to draw a line under it... service normality... they need to starve the right of any and all oxygen.

    Historically I'm not aware of a single time appeasement has worked after a failed putsch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,116 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Here are the tweets which were taken down

    https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1347718683351601152?s=19

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    CNN saying he tired to use another account, and twitter shut it down too .

    Tried to Tweet from the @POTUS account and they deleted the Tweets. :D

    Has issued a statement though: https://twitter.com/alexsalvinews/status/1347720480904466434/photo/1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Yep.

    We've had four years of appeasing these idiots and look where that got us.

    Isn't it incredible the "**** your feelings" crowd all of a sudden want to talk reconciliation, when they lost the senate and the White House.

    America has been in an abusive relationship with Trump for the last 4 years and has finally woken up.

    **** his supporters and **** trump.

    When they lost the senate and the White House and tried to steal electors from the states, steal an election from the electors and seem ambivalent to the reality the President just incited a violent coup d’êtait, you mean.

    Fuhck them and their feelings. The party of “done with PC bull****” “make him a one term president;” and so, so many other things I could recriminate that make it loud and clear they have no interest in Unity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,412 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Strumms wrote: »
    The dems need to draw a line under it... service normality... they need to starve the right of any and all oxygen.

    No lines should be drawn. It's should be strangled. Cut off at the head.

    The only thing insurrection understands being stopped immediately. If they hug it the smell of weakness will be extensive. More of the same can be expected then.

    What stopped these terrorists entering the offices of law makers yesterday was a woman being shot by law enforcement. Had that not happened they would have over run that wing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 382 ✭✭oldtimeyfella


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Yep.

    We've had four years of appeasing these idiots and look where that got us.

    Isn't it incredible the "**** your feelings" crowd all of a sudden want to talk reconciliation, when they lost the senate and the White House.

    America has been in an abusive relationship with Trump for the last 4 years and has finally woken up.

    **** his supporters and **** trump.

    Well, best of luck with all that. I'm not sure that doubling down is the best move in this situation but some people seem to think that provoking 70 million odd pissed off people is a good idea.

    Biden and Harris would want to make sure to deliver so that they don't add any more fuel to that fire.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,861 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Fûckin nutsville, what a time to be alive...

    A global pandemic, a complete psycho tool in the whitehouse, threats to subvert democracy here... fukkk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 898 ✭✭✭JohnFalstaff


    When Trump told his supporters '' to be strong, to go down there and cheer on the republicans , not so much some of them '' .... no one was in shock and falling out of their chair.
    If it was such a shocking statement at the time why didn't they act to protect the Capitol Building. CNN is playing that clip over and over and over. I don't get it, shocking now, but not at the time.?

    I don't even know how you can use those words against him.

    This is one of the biggest questions about the whole shocking debacle.

    If it turns out there is evidence that Trump tried to put measures in place to delay the National Guard then it starts looking more like a coup and he is facing accusations of treason.

    There were some serious operators at play on the floor of the Capitol on that day who were carrying cable ties and hand guns. They were there with orders and an agenda.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,313 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Tony EH wrote: »

    Trump AND the Republicans were reckless in the extreme and not only has it lost them the Presidency (to a Democratic candidate that would have lost any other year), they've lost everything else as well. They gambled for power only and not the good of the country and fully deserve to be in the position that they find themselves now. A position they're trying to crawl back from to save as much face as they can.

    I think people need a bit of a history lesson.
    Trump entered the presidential race for the GOP nomination in 2016 and no one took him seriously. Everyone thought that the ultimate race would be Jebb Bush (remember him) vs Hillary Clinton....
    Trump enters the race and destroys them all. He ****ed over the GOP establishment...
    ... then he went on to win the White House against the Clinton machine..

    Unbelievable stuff tbh, one of the biggest political upsets in history.

    Even with everything that happened this year, he did well enough in the presidential elections, falling short in a few key states.

    One more thought. It has been concluded by the vast majority of data scientists and pollsters that if it were not for Covid-19 Trump would be reinaugurated on Jan 20th easily.

    It had to take a one in a 100-year pandemic to force him from office.

    This is why the Democrats are going for the juggler now with the impeachment process. They still fear him, and what he stands for. They want to try and slay the beast once and for all but if they do, they could make things a hell of a lot worse for themselves in the long run.

    One thing the Democrats and the left always do, they overreach and believe their own morality is superior to anyone else. This is all political showmanship dressed up as morality. They are thinking about the next 10 years, which they want to dominate politically and bend the GOP to their will.

    Again, overreaching because in 2022 when the midterms will be on us, many of them will be ****ed out of office, just like what happened in 2010 with Obama and 96 with Clinton.

    Dont believe me?

    It is common knowledge now that the way the Democrats handled the SCOTUS nomination of Brett Kavanaugh cost the Democrats the Senate in 2018. And because of that, they lost another pick at the Supreme Court....

    It's like a universal law of physics, the Democrats will overreach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,116 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Overheal wrote: »
    When they lost the senate and the White House and tried to steal electors from the states, steal an election from the electors and seem ambivalent to the reality the President just incited a violent coup d’êtait, you mean.

    Fuhck them and their feelings. The party of “done with PC bull****” “make him a one term president;” and so, so many other things I could recriminate that make it loud and clear they have no interest in Unity.

    They need to be bitch slapped for at least two years, for the dems to be utterly ruthless.

    Show them what it's like to be on the receiving end of partisan politics.

    After that, *maybe* talk cooperation but until then, no mercy

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Everything proves a conspiracy theory right. That is the beauty of conspiracy theories. Also means other people shouldn't really be worried about what they think since nothing will alter it in any case.

    Unless people believe you should be able to incite a violent (badly organised) coup on twitter I fail to see the issue. Should we also force twitter, a private company to allow jihadist attacks to organise via their servers? People seemed to have a different view of free speech then.

    Turns out small government people want a big government to tell the companies they don't like what they can and can't do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,412 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    everlast75 wrote: »
    They need to be bitch slapped for at least two years, for the dems to be utterly ruthless.

    Show them what it's like to be on the receiving end of partisan politics.

    After that, *maybe* talk cooperation but until then, no mercy


    They should push the party of law and order and the working man. That's a better direction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭crazy 88


    combat14 wrote: »
    apparently twitter execs gave millions to biden campaign probably be court cases galore over this yet

    Is that you vlad?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,116 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    listermint wrote: »
    They should push the party of law and order and the working man. That's a better direction.

    They can do both.

    Ram through massive reform.

    Gun control, voter rights, electoral reform.

    Get it all done in the first 2 years, then offer the hand shake.

    Bring ruthless is the only thing Republicans acknowledge.

    The Dems will be respected more.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Robert ninja


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Yep.

    We've had four years of appeasing these idiots and look where that got us.
    Appeasing? You mean every major corporation, big tech player and media outlet heavily censoring conservatives, blacklisting alt tech, non stop orange man bad content. Yeah... look where it got you.
    "It's not working, we need MORE censorship!". F'ing insanity.

    Interesting how the left don't survive on platforms that don't thoroughly support them or have minimum moderation. The boot lickers need big tech and big government.
    everlast75 wrote: »
    Here are the tweets which were taken down
    "When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.” - George R.R. Martin


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 382 ✭✭oldtimeyfella


    listermint wrote: »
    They should push the party of law and order and the working man. That's a better direction.

    They can't do that whilst also supporting BLM/Antifa/unfettered illegal immigration.

    No work-a-day schlub is going to buy the party of the coastal elites suddenly being on their side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,116 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    They can't do that whilst also supporting BLM/Antifa/unfettered illegal immigration.

    No work-a-day schlub is going to buy the party of the coastal elites suddenly being on their side.

    Coastal elites?

    That made me spit out my tea.

    Wtf is Trump?

    Jfc

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Appeasing? You mean every major corporation, big tech player and media outlet heavily censoring conservatives, blacklisting alt tech, non stop orange man bad content. Yeah... look where it got you.
    "It's not working, we need MORE censorship!". F'ing insanity.

    Interesting how the left don't survive on platforms that don't thoroughly support them or have minimum moderation. The boot lickers need big tech and big government.


    "When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.” - George R.R. Martin

    " Big tech" have bent over backwards to seem balanced in the face of repeated lies, hatred and disinformation from the far right. The attempted coup overplayed their hands and forced them to act against those who have been breaking the terms of service for years.

    Yeah the left don't do as well when it comes down who shouts the loudest and has the more ridiculous lies. Go figure.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 382 ✭✭oldtimeyfella


    everlast75 wrote: »
    They can do both.

    Ram through massive reform.

    Gun control, voter rights, electoral reform.

    Get it all done in the first 2 years, then offer the hand shake.

    Bring ruthless is the only thing Republicans acknowledge.

    The Dems will be respected more.

    A recipe to get demolished in the mid terms and put out of your misery in the next general election.

    The Republicans would sit back and let them do all of this disastrous nonsense with nary a thought of compromise because they wouldn't need it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,082 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    markodaly wrote: »

    Even with everything that happened this year, he did well enough in the presidential elections, falling short in a few key states.

    One more thought. It has been concluded by the vast majority of data scientists and pollsters that if it were not for Covid-19 Trump would be reinaugurated on Jan 20th easily.

    It had to take a one in a 100-year pandemic to force him from office.

    I'm sure you will be along any second with the evidence to back up "the vast majority of data scientists and pollsters." claim
    But I won't hold my breath.
    That you think impeachment after what has happened in the last few days is overreach sums up exactly what is wrong with conservatism, doesn't matter what damage is done as long as you can stick to the libs.
    And you try and project about thinking they are morally superior..... don't make laugh, that's all we hear from conservatives and look at how they constantly show themselves up, they are a laughing stock at this stage.
    It's seriously head in the sand from you lot, as usual.


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