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Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 82,254 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Yep.

    We've had four years of appeasing these idiots and look where that got us.

    Isn't it incredible the "**** your feelings" crowd all of a sudden want to talk reconciliation, when they lost the senate and the White House.

    America has been in an abusive relationship with Trump for the last 4 years and has finally woken up.

    **** his supporters and **** trump.

    When they lost the senate and the White House and tried to steal electors from the states, steal an election from the electors and seem ambivalent to the reality the President just incited a violent coup d’êtait, you mean.

    Fuhck them and their feelings. The party of “done with PC bull****” “make him a one term president;” and so, so many other things I could recriminate that make it loud and clear they have no interest in Unity.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,860 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Strumms wrote: »
    The dems need to draw a line under it... service normality... they need to starve the right of any and all oxygen.

    No lines should be drawn. It's should be strangled. Cut off at the head.

    The only thing insurrection understands being stopped immediately. If they hug it the smell of weakness will be extensive. More of the same can be expected then.

    What stopped these terrorists entering the offices of law makers yesterday was a woman being shot by law enforcement. Had that not happened they would have over run that wing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 382 ✭✭oldtimeyfella


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Yep.

    We've had four years of appeasing these idiots and look where that got us.

    Isn't it incredible the "**** your feelings" crowd all of a sudden want to talk reconciliation, when they lost the senate and the White House.

    America has been in an abusive relationship with Trump for the last 4 years and has finally woken up.

    **** his supporters and **** trump.

    Well, best of luck with all that. I'm not sure that doubling down is the best move in this situation but some people seem to think that provoking 70 million odd pissed off people is a good idea.

    Biden and Harris would want to make sure to deliver so that they don't add any more fuel to that fire.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,115 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Fûckin nutsville, what a time to be alive...

    A global pandemic, a complete psycho tool in the whitehouse, threats to subvert democracy here... fukkk


  • Registered Users Posts: 875 ✭✭✭JohnFalstaff


    When Trump told his supporters '' to be strong, to go down there and cheer on the republicans , not so much some of them '' .... no one was in shock and falling out of their chair.
    If it was such a shocking statement at the time why didn't they act to protect the Capitol Building. CNN is playing that clip over and over and over. I don't get it, shocking now, but not at the time.?

    I don't even know how you can use those words against him.

    This is one of the biggest questions about the whole shocking debacle.

    If it turns out there is evidence that Trump tried to put measures in place to delay the National Guard then it starts looking more like a coup and he is facing accusations of treason.

    There were some serious operators at play on the floor of the Capitol on that day who were carrying cable ties and hand guns. They were there with orders and an agenda.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,222 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Tony EH wrote: »

    Trump AND the Republicans were reckless in the extreme and not only has it lost them the Presidency (to a Democratic candidate that would have lost any other year), they've lost everything else as well. They gambled for power only and not the good of the country and fully deserve to be in the position that they find themselves now. A position they're trying to crawl back from to save as much face as they can.

    I think people need a bit of a history lesson.
    Trump entered the presidential race for the GOP nomination in 2016 and no one took him seriously. Everyone thought that the ultimate race would be Jebb Bush (remember him) vs Hillary Clinton....
    Trump enters the race and destroys them all. He ****ed over the GOP establishment...
    ... then he went on to win the White House against the Clinton machine..

    Unbelievable stuff tbh, one of the biggest political upsets in history.

    Even with everything that happened this year, he did well enough in the presidential elections, falling short in a few key states.

    One more thought. It has been concluded by the vast majority of data scientists and pollsters that if it were not for Covid-19 Trump would be reinaugurated on Jan 20th easily.

    It had to take a one in a 100-year pandemic to force him from office.

    This is why the Democrats are going for the juggler now with the impeachment process. They still fear him, and what he stands for. They want to try and slay the beast once and for all but if they do, they could make things a hell of a lot worse for themselves in the long run.

    One thing the Democrats and the left always do, they overreach and believe their own morality is superior to anyone else. This is all political showmanship dressed up as morality. They are thinking about the next 10 years, which they want to dominate politically and bend the GOP to their will.

    Again, overreaching because in 2022 when the midterms will be on us, many of them will be ****ed out of office, just like what happened in 2010 with Obama and 96 with Clinton.

    Dont believe me?

    It is common knowledge now that the way the Democrats handled the SCOTUS nomination of Brett Kavanaugh cost the Democrats the Senate in 2018. And because of that, they lost another pick at the Supreme Court....

    It's like a universal law of physics, the Democrats will overreach.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,300 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Overheal wrote: »
    When they lost the senate and the White House and tried to steal electors from the states, steal an election from the electors and seem ambivalent to the reality the President just incited a violent coup d’êtait, you mean.

    Fuhck them and their feelings. The party of “done with PC bull****” “make him a one term president;” and so, so many other things I could recriminate that make it loud and clear they have no interest in Unity.

    They need to be bitch slapped for at least two years, for the dems to be utterly ruthless.

    Show them what it's like to be on the receiving end of partisan politics.

    After that, *maybe* talk cooperation but until then, no mercy


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,931 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Everything proves a conspiracy theory right. That is the beauty of conspiracy theories. Also means other people shouldn't really be worried about what they think since nothing will alter it in any case.

    Unless people believe you should be able to incite a violent (badly organised) coup on twitter I fail to see the issue. Should we also force twitter, a private company to allow jihadist attacks to organise via their servers? People seemed to have a different view of free speech then.

    Turns out small government people want a big government to tell the companies they don't like what they can and can't do.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,860 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    everlast75 wrote: »
    They need to be bitch slapped for at least two years, for the dems to be utterly ruthless.

    Show them what it's like to be on the receiving end of partisan politics.

    After that, *maybe* talk cooperation but until then, no mercy


    They should push the party of law and order and the working man. That's a better direction.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭crazy 88


    combat14 wrote: »
    apparently twitter execs gave millions to biden campaign probably be court cases galore over this yet

    Is that you vlad?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,300 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    listermint wrote: »
    They should push the party of law and order and the working man. That's a better direction.

    They can do both.

    Ram through massive reform.

    Gun control, voter rights, electoral reform.

    Get it all done in the first 2 years, then offer the hand shake.

    Bring ruthless is the only thing Republicans acknowledge.

    The Dems will be respected more.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Robert ninja


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Yep.

    We've had four years of appeasing these idiots and look where that got us.
    Appeasing? You mean every major corporation, big tech player and media outlet heavily censoring conservatives, blacklisting alt tech, non stop orange man bad content. Yeah... look where it got you.
    "It's not working, we need MORE censorship!". F'ing insanity.

    Interesting how the left don't survive on platforms that don't thoroughly support them or have minimum moderation. The boot lickers need big tech and big government.
    everlast75 wrote: »
    Here are the tweets which were taken down
    "When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.” - George R.R. Martin


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 382 ✭✭oldtimeyfella


    listermint wrote: »
    They should push the party of law and order and the working man. That's a better direction.

    They can't do that whilst also supporting BLM/Antifa/unfettered illegal immigration.

    No work-a-day schlub is going to buy the party of the coastal elites suddenly being on their side.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,300 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    They can't do that whilst also supporting BLM/Antifa/unfettered illegal immigration.

    No work-a-day schlub is going to buy the party of the coastal elites suddenly being on their side.

    Coastal elites?

    That made me spit out my tea.

    Wtf is Trump?

    Jfc


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,931 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Appeasing? You mean every major corporation, big tech player and media outlet heavily censoring conservatives, blacklisting alt tech, non stop orange man bad content. Yeah... look where it got you.
    "It's not working, we need MORE censorship!". F'ing insanity.

    Interesting how the left don't survive on platforms that don't thoroughly support them or have minimum moderation. The boot lickers need big tech and big government.


    "When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say.” - George R.R. Martin

    " Big tech" have bent over backwards to seem balanced in the face of repeated lies, hatred and disinformation from the far right. The attempted coup overplayed their hands and forced them to act against those who have been breaking the terms of service for years.

    Yeah the left don't do as well when it comes down who shouts the loudest and has the more ridiculous lies. Go figure.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 382 ✭✭oldtimeyfella


    everlast75 wrote: »
    They can do both.

    Ram through massive reform.

    Gun control, voter rights, electoral reform.

    Get it all done in the first 2 years, then offer the hand shake.

    Bring ruthless is the only thing Republicans acknowledge.

    The Dems will be respected more.

    A recipe to get demolished in the mid terms and put out of your misery in the next general election.

    The Republicans would sit back and let them do all of this disastrous nonsense with nary a thought of compromise because they wouldn't need it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    markodaly wrote: »

    Even with everything that happened this year, he did well enough in the presidential elections, falling short in a few key states.

    One more thought. It has been concluded by the vast majority of data scientists and pollsters that if it were not for Covid-19 Trump would be reinaugurated on Jan 20th easily.

    It had to take a one in a 100-year pandemic to force him from office.

    I'm sure you will be along any second with the evidence to back up "the vast majority of data scientists and pollsters." claim
    But I won't hold my breath.
    That you think impeachment after what has happened in the last few days is overreach sums up exactly what is wrong with conservatism, doesn't matter what damage is done as long as you can stick to the libs.
    And you try and project about thinking they are morally superior..... don't make laugh, that's all we hear from conservatives and look at how they constantly show themselves up, they are a laughing stock at this stage.
    It's seriously head in the sand from you lot, as usual.


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭Kumejima


    By deplatforming Trump, you are by implication, deplatforming the 75 million people who voted for him. Moreover, you are deplatforming and silencing the duly elected leader of your country. If you cannot see the dangerous implications of this, not merely in terms of free speech but purely in terms of any hopes of unifying the country you're hopelessly biased. If you say to people, "Your politics are unacceptable and are to be silenced, your views are bigoted and must be suppressed, your very existence and ability to speak must be removed from our collective airwaves", what then do you expect them to do exactly? Create your own platform a la Parler. Oops no, the Left will ban that too.

    If you don't give people an option to air their grievances or call them bigoted racists when they do, what other recourse then is left to them to seek justice?

    "**** em" - yeah you can get away with that sort of if you're dealing with a small minority with no power, purely pragmatically speaking.
    This however is literally half your electorate, many of whom are heavily armed. How can you have "HEALING" as Biden called for, when only one side is allowed to speak and one side is denied any opportunity to express anything?

    "A riot is the language of the unheard" is a phrase by Martin Luther King trotted out during the BLM protests. When the conservative white guys start rioting, as I believe they will, the Left will go " See - white males are the greatest terrorist threat in this country" and use it as an excuse to clamp down on their enemies even more. But you've left them literally no other avenue of expression to be heard.


  • Registered Users Posts: 82,254 ✭✭✭✭Overheal




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Robert ninja


    Christy42 wrote: »
    " Big tech" have bent over backwards to seem balanced .


    What a joke. Big tech are almost all exclusively far left woke machines and they do not try to hide it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 82,254 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Coastal elites?

    That made me spit out my tea.

    Wtf is Trump?

    Jfc

    Sounds like someone is hitting too much of the Hannity


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,222 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Too little, too late with the Twitter ban at this stage. Just reinforces the conspiracy theory amongst his supporters. Trump has been moving his campaign to the likes of Parlour for months now.

    His supporters get their news and content from the likes of Parlour now, which no responsible persons have any control over. Twitter and Facebook are just used for trolling.

    Expect a massive upsurge in the use of Parlour. I'm considering getting it myself as someone who likes to keep abreast of what is being discussed amongst Trump supporters and right wing extremists in general.

    It's important that we know what their narrative is. Driving discussion underground and pretending it isn't happening is just asking for a catastrophe to happen.


    This.

    The banning of his Twitter Account is just willy-waving, but I love the irony of self-identifying left-wingers preach about the right of capitalist corporations being allowed to do what they want.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,878 ✭✭✭Robert ninja




  • Registered Users Posts: 19,115 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Trump AND the Republicans were reckless in the extreme and not only has it lost them the Presidency (to a Democratic candidate that would have lost any other year), they've lost everything else as well. They gambled for power only and not the good of the country and fully deserve to be in the position that they find themselves now. A position they're trying to crawl back from to save as much face as they can.
    markodaly wrote: »
    I think people need a bit of a history lesson.
    Trump entered the presidential race for the GOP nomination in 2016 and no one took him seriously. Everyone thought that the ultimate race would be Jebb Bush (remember him) vs Hillary Clinton....
    Trump enters the race and destroys them all. He ****ed over the GOP establishment...
    ... then he went on to win the White House against the Clinton machine..

    Unbelievable stuff tbh, one of the biggest political upsets in history.

    Even with everything that happened this year, he did well enough in the presidential elections, falling short in a few key states.

    One more thought. It has been concluded by the vast majority of data scientists and pollsters that if it were not for Covid-19 Trump would be reinaugurated on Jan 20th easily.

    It had to take a one in a 100-year pandemic to force him from office.

    This is why the Democrats are going for the juggler now with the impeachment process. They still fear him, and what he stands for. They want to try and slay the beast once and for all but if they do, they could make things a hell of a lot worse for themselves in the long run.

    One thing the Democrats and the left always do, they overreach and believe their own morality is superior to anyone else. This is all political showmanship dressed up as morality. They are thinking about the next 10 years, which they want to dominate politically and bend the GOP to their will.

    Again, overreaching because in 2022 when the midterms will be on us, many of them will be ****ed out of office, just like what happened in 2010 with Obama and 96 with Clinton.

    Dont believe me?

    It is common knowledge now that the way the Democrats handled the SCOTUS nomination of Brett Kavanaugh cost the Democrats the Senate in 2018. And because of that, they lost another pick at the Supreme Court....

    It's like a universal law of physics, the Democrats will overreach.

    You're not putting forth any history lessons.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,347 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Coastal elites?

    That made me spit out my tea.

    Wtf is Trump?

    Jfc

    Trump's are the working class family that are leading the populist movement against the coastal elites

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    A good riddance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,222 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Tony EH wrote: »
    You're not putting forth any history lessons.

    Maybe my comment was wasted seeing as some just want to vent and slay some dragons.

    Personally, it will be interesting to see come the latter half of the year how the people can sustain the same level of outrage when the evil one, Trump will be well gone from the scene.

    Eventually, Biden and Co. will have to govern and actually do some policy work.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭fash


    Congrats to twitter for making sure we get a much worse version of Trump in 4 years time.



    They just couldn't help themselves and they had to pull the trigger early. They've played right into the narrative that he and his supporters are being silenced.
    Really don't see this - a more feral Trump cult will only split the republican vote and push those in the middle/moderates towards the democrats. This turkey is done.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,115 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    markodaly wrote: »
    Maybe my comment was wasted seeing as some just want to vent and slay some dragons.

    Personally, it will be interesting to see come the latter half of the year how the people can sustain the same level of outrage when the evil one, Trump will be well gone from the scene.

    Eventually, Biden and Co. will have to govern and actually do some policy work.

    Your post is essentially bUt tHe LeFt, and you're talking about "slaying dragons".


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