Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

Movementarian

Kumejima wrote: »

By deplatforming Trump, you are by implication, deplatforming the 75 million people who voted for him. Moreover, you are deplatforming and silencing the duly elected leader of your country. If you cannot see the dangerous implications of this, not merely in terms of free speech but purely in terms of any hopes of unifying the country you're hopelessly biased. If you say to people, "Your politics are unacceptable and are to be silenced, your views are bigoted and must be suppressed, your very existence and ability to speak must be removed from our collective airwaves", what then do you expect them to do exactly? Create your own platform a la Parler. Oops no, the Left will ban that too.

If you don't give people an option to air their grievances or call them bigoted racists when they do, what other recourse then is left to them to seek justice?

"**** em" - yeah you can get away with that sort of if you're dealing with a small minority with no power, purely pragmatically speaking.
This however is literally half your electorate, many of whom are heavily armed. How can you have "HEALING" as Biden called for, when only one side is allowed to speak and one side is denied any opportunity to express anything?

"A riot is the language of the unheard" is a phrase by Martin Luther King trotted out during the BLM protests. When the conservative white guys start rioting, as I believe they will, the Left will go " See - white males are the greatest terrorist threat in this country" and use it as an excuse to clamp down on their enemies even more. But you've left them literally no other avenue of expression to be heard.

No offence but thats a stupid take on this. Complete overeaction to what happened. Lookk at what Twitter and others have allowed Trump and his family/supporters to post not only in the last 4 years but before that. Have you forgotten Trump used twitter to spread the birther conspiracy on Obama? None of that was taken down.

The only time they have 'silenced' him is when he is directly inciting violence. Violence which directly caused the deaths of 5 people I might add.

So no, it is not their policies or politics that is being silenced. Use your brain.

The Inbetween is mine

Smee_Again wrote: »

Trump used Twitter to incite a terrorist attack on his own government during which 5 people died and people think Twitter are wrong to ban him?

FFS what world are you living in?

Imagine recently decreased Michel McKevitt had been using Twitter when planning to bomb Omagh, would Twitter be wrong to ban him too?

Decreased?... You mean he's not dead.. just smaller.....kinda like the 'ra

osarusan

osarusan wrote: »

On the one hand, it's not great for companies like Twitter and Facebook to be removing the president's platform.

On the other hand, they let him spoof any kind of crap at all for 4 years, and only when he was literally encouring people to attack the very centre of legislature did they remove that platform.

It remains a very high bar.

There is a principle there, and the deplatforming sits uneasily with me in that regard, but in another way it's hard to argue with it, seeing as people have died, and Trumpm showed no signs of toning down his rhetoric until the ban.

It's not just limited to the owners of Twitter. What about a lot of Republicans who sat quietly protecting their patch, knowing full well that Donald was not a fit president - it was mass group-think coupled with a bully of a president who would threaten their careers if they didn't comply. With only days to go before he leaves office, Republicans are coming out of the woodwork to condemn him- way too little and way too late.

it's genuinely frightening how he was allowed stay in office for so long without his party reigning him in- it just shows how easy it can be for tyranny to become the key leadership style -at least the checks and balances of the American democratic system appear to have worked on this occasion, but in my view, any republicans appearing to reject Trump now is simplly rats leaving a sinking ship - nothing more.

walshb

Deleted User wrote: »

It's not just limited to the owners of Twitter. What about a lot of Republicans who sat quietly protecting their patch, knowing full well that Donald was not a fit president - it was mass group-think coupled with a bully of a president who would threaten their careers if they didn't comply. With only days to go before he leaves office, Republicans are coming out of the woodwork to condemn him- way too little and way too late.

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I have said it from day 1.....

Trump is diseased, but worse are those who allowed the disease in, encouraged it, used it, bolstered it....

He has had an army of people peddling and pushing his badness and madness.

It is the dictionary definition of team effort....

And yes, there were plenty of good republicans who were disgusted that this man was allowed in. Just not enough to stop it...

Endintheclowns

Twitter have just given Trump supporters more reason to believe the world is against Trump and them. Incredibly dangerous move they've made and to see celebs and others celebrate it is silly. Trump is a very dangerous man but the story isn't Trump it's the 75m Americans that voted for him even after the last 4 years and aren't going away in 11 days time.

alchemist33

Interesting twitter thread here where a user (with help) tries to identify the attempted kidnapper in the Capitol. He's sent the info to the FBI. Strong Tennessee link


https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1347011413101998080?s=20

Tell me how

Rush Limbaugh has deleted his Twitter account.

I expect we could see a flood of them move away as they look to regroup and gather their thoughts amongst some like minded souls whether that be on parler (doesn't look like it) or wherever.

salmocab

Endintheclowns wrote: »

Twitter have just given Trump supporters more reason to believe the world is against Trump and them. Incredibly dangerous move they've made and to see celebs and others celebrate it is silly. Trump is a very dangerous man but the story isn't Trump it's the 75m Americans that voted for him even after the last 4 years and aren't going away in 11 days time.

They don’t need more reasons so it matters not.

walshb

Endintheclowns wrote: »

Twitter have just given Trump supporters more reason to believe the world is against Trump and them. Incredibly dangerous move they've made and to see celebs and others celebrate it is silly. Trump is a very dangerous man but the story isn't Trump it's the 75m Americans that voted for him even after the last 4 years and aren't going away in 11 days time.

What do you think they should have done?

Allowed the man to continue to whip up a mob and create more hate and incite anarchy and violence and whatever else...

The man has no morals whatsoever.....not a shred of empathy towards people...

Means nothing to him to see/hear of people killing and fighting, once he is safe...

Juicee

What about the takedown of multiple high profile conservative/anti-leftist twitter accounts yesterday.

Apple talking about banning Parler from App Store if they don’t follow suit.

This is about a lot more than Trump it’s a political movement it is wide scale Censorship by big tech.

Anyone who genuinely values democracy should be very worried about this no matter why you think of trump.

If you support this type of censorship you are very much a part of the problem.

Pelosi and the rest of the leftist political and media mob directly incited murder riots and looting of cities during summer anyone remember that?? They weren’t they censored???

People should check themselves for hypocrisy here

sydthebeat

Endintheclowns wrote: »

Twitter have just given Trump supporters more reason to believe the world is against Trump and them. Incredibly dangerous move they've made and to see celebs and others celebrate it is silly. Trump is a very dangerous man but the story isn't Trump it's the 75m Americans that voted for him even after the last 4 years and aren't going away in 11 days time.

The vast majority of those 70ish million are cards carrying republicans who will vote red even if vlad the impaler was running....

The disaffected rioting nutter nazi types that stormed the capitol are very much in the minority thankfully. They need to be watched, but more importantly they need to be deplatformed to stop their numbers from spreading to other ignorant gullible people (for example see the Karen who couldn't believe she was maced while trying to carry out a "revolution).
Gullible people need to be given truthful boring facts and the conspiracy theories consigned to the deepest darkest corners of the Web, away from main stream consumption.

ILoveYourVibes

walshb wrote: »

What do you think they should have done?

Allowed the man to continue to whip up a mob and create more hate and incite anarchy and violence and whatever else...

The man has no morals whatsoever.....not a shred of empathy towards people...

Means nothing to him to see/hear of people killing and fighting, once he is safe...

He is in a bubble.

This was filmed after he gave that speech inciting the rioting and was filmed backstage as they watched the rioters on a screen.

Watch this ...that is Kimberly Guilfoyle dancing around like a loola


Look at the atmosphere.

On that screen in front of Ivanka ...are the riots happening in real time.

walshb

Juicee wrote: »

What about the takedown of multiple high profile conservative/anti-leftist twitter accounts yesterday.

Apple talking about banning Parler from App Store if they don’t follow suit.

This is about a lot more than Trump it’s a political movement it is wide scale Censorship by big tech.

Anyone who genuinely values democracy should be very worried about this no matter why you think of trump.

If you support this type of censorship you are very much a part of the problem.

I have 0 issue with any people/companies banning others who are menaces to society......actual menaces....

People censor every day in every walk of life...it's human nature

We all censor....it's what makes us human

Example: some lowlife enters your life and starts abusing you, threatening you and causing you fear and pain......what do you do? I know what I do....

I fooking censor them....

This is just a larger censoring

Nobody is asking everyone to be Mary Poppins here....but some decency and standards have to exist.

Samsonsmasher

sydthebeat wrote: »

Literal nazis storm the capitol building.

Ted cruz stands up for them

QED

At least understand why Trump was elected to begin with what he actually stood for and what MAGA is actually about before lazily labelling them as Nazis.

Why was Trump elected?

Obama presided over the slowest economic recovery since the Great Depression. The economy was growing but too slowly. Poverty homelessness business closures crime and drug use was rampant. Manufacturing jobs were relocating from rust belt states to Mexico China and elsewhere. American cities were rotting and infrastructure crumbling. On his watch on the southern border millions were crossing although millions were being deported every year. Islamic terrorists with their base in the Islamic Caliphate were running rampant after disastrous interventions in Afghanistan Iraq Libya and Syria since 2001. North Korea Iran Russia and China were openly defying Obama. Political correctness and cancel culture and identity politics were running rampant on college campuses and beginning to cross into the real world as millenials and generation z became adults.
America was in deep deep sh*t.
The Democrats and Republicans were a busted flush and Trump identified these problems and promised to solve them.

Trump cut taxes and business regulations and the economy took off. Small business grew dramatically. Millions of new manufacturing jobs were created as Trump encouraged American companies to hire Americans and the deficit hole was being filled in. Trump fought a trade war with China and won. He clamped down on illegal immigration and began building the border wall with Mexico. Trafficking and ill crossings fell dramatically. He cooperated with Russia to defeat ISIS and the Islamic Caliphate was wiped out. He forced NATO countries to increase their part instead of leaning America to protect them in Europe. He began the withdrawal from Afghanistan. He threatened fire and fury against North Korea forcing Kim Jong Un to back down and reign in his nuclear program. He defied political correctness and woke culture standing up for American traditions of God faith patriotism individualism and capitalism.

The covid crisis caused millions to lose their jobs and businesses and the Black Lives Matter and Antifa violence destroyed billions of dollars of property damage and brought about a collapse of law and order in major American cities.
Statues of Washington Jefferson and Lincoln were torn down the American flag was burned and the left screamed they wanted to establish a Marxist state.
Hysterical Democrats had for 4 years tried to take out President Trump firstly with a bogus investigation into Russian collusion in the the 2016 election and secondly tried to impeach him over his request that Hunter Biden be investigated by the Ukrainian government over his appointment to Barisma because of their financial relationship to his father Joe Biden.
The media fed their liberal viewers an unrelentingly biased and negative narrative that Trump was basically Hitler.

Trump rightly was concerned that Biden's victory was stolen because of the notorious corruption in Milwaukee Detriot Pittsburgh Philadelphia and Atlanta where unlikely results in those cities gave him victory in the swing states and the Presidency.

Biden promises high taxes lockdowns reparations from whites for bogus black greviences and other anti American insanity from the extreme left and kowtows to China. He has cheered on Big Tech censorship. He plans to go after the 5th Ammendment.
The hysterical deranged Pelosi wants to impeach Trump yet again.

Is it any wonder the MAGA crowd stormed the Capitol?

Going forward Biden the Democrats and Republicans and the media are opposed by the best part of 70 million Americans who voted for Trump and his agenda.
Many believe as Trump does the election was rigged and that the Supreme Court Senate Congress have betrayed the constitution.

Hoop66

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

He is in a bubble.

This was filmed after he gave that speech inciting the rioting and was filmed backstage as they watched the rioters on a screen.

Watch this ...that is Kimberly Guilfoyle dancing around like a loola


Look at the atmosphere.

On that screen in front of Ivanka ...are the riots happening in real time.

BEFORE he gave the speech. Try not to get caught up in the hysteria.

Juicee

walshb wrote: »

I have 0 issue with any people/companies banning others who are menaces to society......actual menaces....

People censor every day in every walk of life...it's human nature

We all censor....it's what makes us human

Example: some lowlife enters your life and starts abusing you, threatening you and causing you fear and pain......what do you do? I know what I do....

I fooking censor them....

This is just a larger censoring

Nobody is asking everyone to be Mary Poppins here....but some decency and standards have to exist.

Pelosi and the rest of the leftist political and media mob directly incited murder riots and looting of cities during summer anyone remember that?? They weren’t they censored???

People should check themselves for hypocrisy here

Tell me how

Juicee wrote: »

What about the takedown of multiple high profile conservative/anti-leftist twitter accounts yesterday.

Apple talking about banning Parler from App Store if they don’t follow suit.

This is about a lot more than Trump it’s a political movement it is wide scale Censorship by big tech.

Anyone who genuinely values democracy should be very worried about this no matter why you think of trump.

If you support this type of censorship you are very much a part of the problem.

Pelosi and the rest of the leftist political and media mob directly incited murder riots and looting of cities during summer anyone remember that?? They weren’t they censored???

People should check themselves for hypocrisy here

The people banned on these accounts, or the actions taken by the owners of the platform are entirely appropriate given the nature of the communications which were posted on the accounts and the actions which happened in the real world.

Should Twitter allow people to openly advertise the selling of illegal substances which can kill people if they are unlucky enough when they take them?

Let me know what you think.

Juicee

Tell me how wrote: »

The people banned on these accounts, or the actions taken by the owners of the platform are entirely appropriate given the nature of the communications which were posted on the accounts and the actions which happened in the real world.

Should Twitter allow people to openly advertise the selling of illegal substances which can kill people if they are unlucky enough when they take them?

Let me know what you think.

Pelosi and the rest of the leftist political and media mob directly incited murder riots and looting of cities during summer anyone remember that?? They weren’t they censored???

People should check themselves for hypocrisy here

ILoveYourVibes

Hoop66 wrote: »

BEFORE he gave the speech. Try not to get caught up in the hysteria.

No it wasn't.

Hoop66

Samsonsmasher wrote: »

At least understand why Trump was elected to begin with what he actually stood for and what MAGA is actually about before lazily labelling them as Nazis.

Why was Trump elected?

Obama presided over the slowest economic recovery since the Great Depression. The economy was growing but too slowly. Poverty homelessness business closures crime and drug use was rampant. Manufacturing jobs were relocating from rust belt states to Mexico China and elsewhere. American cities were rotting and infrastructure crumbling. On his watch on the southern border millions were crossing although millions were being deported every year. Islamic terrorists with their base in the Islamic Caliphate were running rampant after disastrous interventions in Afghanistan Iraq Libya and Syria since 2001. North Korea Iran Russia and China were openly defying Obama. Political correctness and cancel culture and identity politics were running rampant on college campuses and beginning to cross into the real world as millenials and generation z became adults.
America was in deep deep sh*t.
The Democrats and Republicans were a busted flush and Trump identified these problems and promised to solve them.

Trump cut taxes and business regulations and the economy took off. Small business grew dramatically. Millions of new manufacturing jobs were created as Trump encouraged American companies to hire Americans and the deficit hole was being filled in. Trump fought a trade war with China and won. He clamped down on illegal immigration and began building the border wall with Mexico. Trafficking and ill crossings fell dramatically. He cooperated with Russia to defeat ISIS and the Islamic Caliphate was wiped out. He forced NATO countries to increase their part instead of leaning America to protect them in Europe. He began the withdrawal from Afghanistan. He threatened fire and fury against North Korea forcing Kim Jong Un to back down and reign in his nuclear program. He defied political correctness and woke culture standing up for American traditions of God faith patriotism individualism and capitalism.

The covid crisis caused millions to lose their jobs and businesses and the Black Lives Matter and Antifa violence destroyed billions of dollars of property damage and brought about a collapse of law and order in major American cities.
Statues of Washington Jefferson and Lincoln were torn down the American flag was burned and the left screamed they wanted to establish a Marxist state.
Hysterical Democrats had for 4 years tried to take out President Trump firstly with a bogus investigation into Russian collusion in the the 2016 election and secondly tried to impeach him over his request that Hunter Biden be investigated by the Ukrainian government over his appointment to Barisma because of their financial relationship to his father Joe Biden.
The media fed their liberal viewers an unrelentingly biased and negative narrative that Trump was basically Hitler.

Trump rightly was concerned that Biden's victory was stolen because of the notorious corruption in Milwaukee Detriot Pittsburgh Philadelphia and Atlanta where unlikely results in those cities gave him victory in the swing states and the Presidency.

Biden promises high taxes lockdowns reparations from whites for bogus black greviences and other anti American insanity from the extreme left and kowtows to China. He has cheered on Big Tech censorship. He plans to go after the 5th Ammendment.
The hysterical deranged Pelosi wants to impeach Trump yet again.

Is it any wonder the MAGA crowd stormed the Capitol?

Going forward Biden the Democrats and Republicans and the media are opposed by the best part of 70 million Americans who voted for Trump and his agenda.
Many believe as Trump does the election was rigged and that the Supreme Court Senate Congress have betrayed the constitution.

Somebody watches Fox.

salmocab

Samsonsmasher wrote: »

At least understand why Trump was elected to begin with what he actually stood for and what MAGA is actually about before lazily labelling them as Nazis.

Why was Trump elected?

Obama presided over the slowest economic recovery since the Great Depression. The economy was growing but too slowly. Poverty homelessness business closures crime and drug use was rampant. Manufacturing jobs were relocating from rust belt states to Mexico China and elsewhere. American cities were rotting and infrastructure crumbling. On his watch on the southern border millions were crossing although millions were being deported every year. Islamic terrorists with their base in the Islamic Caliphate were running rampant after disastrous interventions in Afghanistan Iraq Libya and Syria since 2001. North Korea Iran Russia and China were openly defying Obama. Political correctness and cancel culture and identity politics were running rampant on college campuses and beginning to cross into the real world as millenials and generation z became adults.
America was in deep deep sh*t.
The Democrats and Republicans were a busted flush and Trump identified these problems and promised to solve them.

Trump cut taxes and business regulations and the economy took off. Small business grew dramatically. Millions of new manufacturing jobs were created as Trump encouraged American companies to hire Americans and the deficit hole was being filled in. Trump fought a trade war with China and won. He clamped down on illegal immigration and began building the border wall with Mexico. Trafficking and ill crossings fell dramatically. He cooperated with Russia to defeat ISIS and the Islamic Caliphate was wiped out. He forced NATO countries to increase their part instead of leaning America to protect them in Europe. He began the withdrawal from Afghanistan. He threatened fire and fury against North Korea forcing Kim Jong Un to back down and reign in his nuclear program. He defied political correctness and woke culture standing up for American traditions of God faith patriotism individualism and capitalism.

The covid crisis caused millions to lose their jobs and businesses and the Black Lives Matter and Antifa violence destroyed billions of dollars of property damage and brought about a collapse of law and order in major American cities.
Statues of Washington Jefferson and Lincoln were torn down the American flag was burned and the left screamed they wanted to establish a Marxist state.
Hysterical Democrats had for 4 years tried to take out President Trump firstly with a bogus investigation into Russian collusion in the the 2016 election and secondly tried to impeach him over his request that Hunter Biden be investigated by the Ukrainian government over his appointment to Barisma because of their financial relationship to his father Joe Biden.
The media fed their liberal viewers an unrelentingly biased and negative narrative that Trump was basically Hitler.

Trump rightly was concerned that Biden's victory was stolen because of the notorious corruption in Milwaukee Detriot Pittsburgh Philadelphia and Atlanta where unlikely results in those cities gave him victory in the swing states and the Presidency.

Biden promises high taxes lockdowns reparations from whites for bogus black greviences and other anti American insanity from the extreme left and kowtows to China. He has cheered on Big Tech censorship. He plans to go after the 5th Ammendment.
The hysterical deranged Pelosi wants to impeach Trump yet again.

Is it any wonder the MAGA crowd stormed the Capitol?

Going forward Biden the Democrats and Republicans and the media are opposed by the best part of 70 million Americans who voted for Trump and his agenda.
Many believe as Trump does the election was rigged and that the Supreme Court Senate Congress have betrayed the constitution.

Always someone else’s fault

ILoveYourVibes

Juicee wrote: »

Pelosi and the rest of the leftist political and media mob directly incited murder riots and looting of cities during summer anyone remember that?? They weren’t they censored???

People should check themselves for hypocrisy here

The left should have zero sympathy for the right.

It should be done.

The softly softly approach led us to this point.

Absolutely its time for the far right to be properly censored. Its well over due.

Im a hypocrite ..fine by me.

walshb

Juicee wrote: »

Pelosi and the rest of the leftist political and media mob directly incited murder riots and looting of cities during summer anyone remember that?? They weren’t they censored???

People should check themselves for hypocrisy here

I was very much against the looting and violence here

I agreed with Trump on the take around the BLM riots....

I could well get behind anyone not forcefully condemning these riots/protests, as therefore inciting them....I thought this at the time...

There was a lot of deflecting...too much sitting back with inaction for my liking.

At least Trump came out firm on it..but then a U tuen earlier this week in encouraging people to attack......madness....

Doctor Jimbob

salmocab wrote: »

Always someone else’s fault

The entire post you quoted is essentially as follows:

Everything good is thanks to Trump.

Everything bad is because lefties.

Something something Marxism.

everlast75

Samsonsmasher wrote: »

At least understand why Trump was elected to begin with what he actually stood for and what MAGA is actually about before lazily labelling them as Nazis.

Why was Trump elected?

Obama presided over the slowest economic recovery since the Great Depression. The economy was growing but too slowly. Poverty homelessness business closures crime and drug use was rampant. Manufacturing jobs were relocating from rust belt states to Mexico China and elsewhere. American cities were rotting and infrastructure crumbling. On his watch on the southern border millions were crossing although millions were being deported every year. Islamic terrorists with their base in the Islamic Caliphate were running rampant after disastrous interventions in Afghanistan Iraq Libya and Syria since 2001. North Korea Iran Russia and China were openly defying Obama. Political correctness and cancel culture and identity politics were running rampant on college campuses and beginning to cross into the real world as millenials and generation z became adults.
America was in deep deep sh*t.
The Democrats and Republicans were a busted flush and Trump identified these problems and promised to solve them.

Trump cut taxes and business regulations and the economy took off. Small business grew dramatically. Millions of new manufacturing jobs were created as Trump encouraged American companies to hire Americans and the deficit hole was being filled in. Trump fought a trade war with China and won. He clamped down on illegal immigration and began building the border wall with Mexico. Trafficking and ill crossings fell dramatically. He cooperated with Russia to defeat ISIS and the Islamic Caliphate was wiped out. He forced NATO countries to increase their part instead of leaning America to protect them in Europe. He began the withdrawal from Afghanistan. He threatened fire and fury against North Korea forcing Kim Jong Un to back down and reign in his nuclear program. He defied political correctness and woke culture standing up for American traditions of God faith patriotism individualism and capitalism.

The covid crisis caused millions to lose their jobs and businesses and the Black Lives Matter and Antifa violence destroyed billions of dollars of property damage and brought about a collapse of law and order in major American cities.
Statues of Washington Jefferson and Lincoln were torn down the American flag was burned and the left screamed they wanted to establish a Marxist state.
Hysterical Democrats had for 4 years tried to take out President Trump firstly with a bogus investigation into Russian collusion in the the 2016 election and secondly tried to impeach him over his request that Hunter Biden be investigated by the Ukrainian government over his appointment to Barisma because of their financial relationship to his father Joe Biden.
The media fed their liberal viewers an unrelentingly biased and negative narrative that Trump was basically Hitler.

Trump rightly was concerned that Biden's victory was stolen because of the notorious corruption in Milwaukee Detriot Pittsburgh Philadelphia and Atlanta where unlikely results in those cities gave him victory in the swing states and the Presidency.

Biden promises high taxes lockdowns reparations from whites for bogus black greviences and other anti American insanity from the extreme left and kowtows to China. He has cheered on Big Tech censorship. He plans to go after the 5th Ammendment.
The hysterical deranged Pelosi wants to impeach Trump yet again.

Is it any wonder the MAGA crowd stormed the Capitol?

Going forward Biden the Democrats and Republicans and the media are opposed by the best part of 70 million Americans who voted for Trump and his agenda.
Many believe as Trump does the election was rigged and that the Supreme Court Senate Congress have betrayed the constitution.

Imagine taking the time to type all that out and for it to be utter nonsense at the end of it.

Hoop66

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

No it wasn't.

It literally says "before he gave the speech" on the video.

It was filmed inside the marquee Trump was in before he gave his speech. After he gave his speech he was very quickly away to safety.

I'm not, god forbid, trying to defend the cunt here. I'm just saying stick with facts.

Amirani

Juicee wrote: »

What about the takedown of multiple high profile conservative/anti-leftist twitter accounts yesterday.

Apple talking about banning Parler from App Store if they don’t follow suit.

This is about a lot more than Trump it’s a political movement it is wide scale Censorship by big tech.

This is an inevitability of capitalism really.

Big tech platforms aren't public utilities. They're private companies and hence you can't force them to host content they don't want to host.

US traditional media for years have done the same thing, they host and distribute who and want they want. This isn't particularly new, it's just bigger scale and there's more people involved.

Juicee

The hypocrisy of the leftist mob calling in 6th events insurrection after what they got up to last summer is simply breathtaking

ILoveYourVibes

Hoop66 wrote: »

It literally says "before he gave the speech" on the video.

It was filmed inside the marquee Trump was in before he gave his speech. After he gave his speech he was very quickly away to safety.

I'm not, god forbid, trying to defend the cunt here. I'm just saying stick with facts.

Im going with the 'its more important to be morally right than factually right.'

Tell me how

Samsonsmasher wrote: »

At least understand why Trump was elected to begin with what he actually stood for and what MAGA is actually about before lazily labelling them as Nazis.

Why was Trump elected?

Obama presided over the slowest economic recovery since the Great Depression. The economy was growing but too slowly. Poverty homelessness business closures crime and drug use was rampant. Manufacturing jobs were relocating from rust belt states to Mexico China and elsewhere. American cities were rotting and infrastructure crumbling. On his watch on the southern border millions were crossing although millions were being deported every year. Islamic terrorists with their base in the Islamic Caliphate were running rampant after disastrous interventions in Afghanistan Iraq Libya and Syria since 2001. North Korea Iran Russia and China were openly defying Obama. Political correctness and cancel culture and identity politics were running rampant on college campuses and beginning to cross into the real world as millenials and generation z became adults.
America was in deep deep sh*t.
The Democrats and Republicans were a busted flush and Trump identified these problems and promised to solve them.

Trump cut taxes and business regulations and the economy took off. Small business grew dramatically. Millions of new manufacturing jobs were created as Trump encouraged American companies to hire Americans and the deficit hole was being filled in. Trump fought a trade war with China and won. He clamped down on illegal immigration and began building the border wall with Mexico. Trafficking and ill crossings fell dramatically. He cooperated with Russia to defeat ISIS and the Islamic Caliphate was wiped out. He forced NATO countries to increase their part instead of leaning America to protect them in Europe. He began the withdrawal from Afghanistan. He threatened fire and fury against North Korea forcing Kim Jong Un to back down and reign in his nuclear program. He defied political correctness and woke culture standing up for American traditions of God faith patriotism individualism and capitalism.

The covid crisis caused millions to lose their jobs and businesses and the Black Lives Matter and Antifa violence destroyed billions of dollars of property damage and brought about a collapse of law and order in major American cities.
Statues of Washington Jefferson and Lincoln were torn down the American flag was burned and the left screamed they wanted to establish a Marxist state.
Hysterical Democrats had for 4 years tried to take out President Trump firstly with a bogus investigation into Russian collusion in the the 2016 election and secondly tried to impeach him over his request that Hunter Biden be investigated by the Ukrainian government over his appointment to Barisma because of their financial relationship to his father Joe Biden.
The media fed their liberal viewers an unrelentingly biased and negative narrative that Trump was basically Hitler.

Trump rightly was concerned that Biden's victory was stolen because of the notorious corruption in Milwaukee Detriot Pittsburgh Philadelphia and Atlanta where unlikely results in those cities gave him victory in the swing states and the Presidency.

Biden promises high taxes lockdowns reparations from whites for bogus black greviences and other anti American insanity from the extreme left and kowtows to China. He has cheered on Big Tech censorship. He plans to go after the 5th Ammendment.
The hysterical deranged Pelosi wants to impeach Trump yet again.

Is it any wonder the MAGA crowd stormed the Capitol?

Going forward Biden the Democrats and Republicans and the media are opposed by the best part of 70 million Americans who voted for Trump and his agenda.
Many believe as Trump does the election was rigged and that the Supreme Court Senate Congress have betrayed the constitution.

It would take me all day to answer all the falsehoods in this but I'll start with the first paragraph.

US GDP 1980 - 2020 (last 2 years excluded



US unemployment 2006 - 2019



Can you show me the point in either graph which shows just exactly the positive steps which Trump took and the impact they had on these metrics.