Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

Kumejima · 09-01-2021 03:05AM

By deplatforming Trump, you are by implication, deplatforming the 75 million people who voted for him. Moreover, you are deplatforming and silencing the duly elected leader of your country. If you cannot see the dangerous implications of this, not merely in terms of free speech but purely in terms of any hopes of unifying the country you're hopelessly biased. If you say to people, "Your politics are unacceptable and are to be silenced, your views are bigoted and must be suppressed, your very existence and ability to speak must be removed from our collective airwaves", what then do you expect them to do exactly? Create your own platform a la Parler. Oops no, the Left will ban that too.

If you don't give people an option to air their grievances or call them bigoted racists when they do, what other recourse then is left to them to seek justice?

"**** em" - yeah you can get away with that sort of if you're dealing with a small minority with no power, purely pragmatically speaking.
This however is literally half your electorate, many of whom are heavily armed. How can you have "HEALING" as Biden called for, when only one side is allowed to speak and one side is denied any opportunity to express anything?

"A riot is the language of the unheard" is a phrase by Martin Luther King trotted out during the BLM protests. When the conservative white guys start rioting, as I believe they will, the Left will go " See - white males are the greatest terrorist threat in this country" and use it as an excuse to clamp down on their enemies even more. But you've left them literally no other avenue of expression to be heard.

Overheal · 09-01-2021 03:06AM

https://twitter.com/hillaryclinton/status/1347723969777045510?s=21

You crazy salty biatch you did it.

Robert ninja · 09-01-2021 03:06AM

Christy42 wrote: »

" Big tech" have bent over backwards to seem balanced .

What a joke. Big tech are almost all exclusively far left woke machines and they do not try to hide it.

Overheal · 09-01-2021 03:07AM

everlast75 wrote: »

Coastal elites?

That made me spit out my tea.

Wtf is Trump?

Jfc

Sounds like someone is hitting too much of the Hannity

markodaly · 09-01-2021 03:07AM

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Too little, too late with the Twitter ban at this stage. Just reinforces the conspiracy theory amongst his supporters. Trump has been moving his campaign to the likes of Parlour for months now.

His supporters get their news and content from the likes of Parlour now, which no responsible persons have any control over. Twitter and Facebook are just used for trolling.

Expect a massive upsurge in the use of Parlour. I'm considering getting it myself as someone who likes to keep abreast of what is being discussed amongst Trump supporters and right wing extremists in general.

It's important that we know what their narrative is. Driving discussion underground and pretending it isn't happening is just asking for a catastrophe to happen.

This.

The banning of his Twitter Account is just willy-waving, but I love the irony of self-identifying left-wingers preach about the right of capitalist corporations being allowed to do what they want.

Robert ninja · 09-01-2021 03:10AM

Overheal wrote: »

https://twitter.com/hillaryclinton/status/1347723969777045510?s=21

You crazy salty biatch you did it.

Add it to the list I guess https://i.ibb.co/nP4bnnW/clintonicide.jpg

Tony EH · 09-01-2021 03:16AM

Tony EH wrote: »

Trump AND the Republicans were reckless in the extreme and not only has it lost them the Presidency (to a Democratic candidate that would have lost any other year), they've lost everything else as well. They gambled for power only and not the good of the country and fully deserve to be in the position that they find themselves now. A position they're trying to crawl back from to save as much face as they can.

markodaly wrote: »

I think people need a bit of a history lesson.
Trump entered the presidential race for the GOP nomination in 2016 and no one took him seriously. Everyone thought that the ultimate race would be Jebb Bush (remember him) vs Hillary Clinton....
Trump enters the race and destroys them all. He ****ed over the GOP establishment...
... then he went on to win the White House against the Clinton machine..

Unbelievable stuff tbh, one of the biggest political upsets in history.

Even with everything that happened this year, he did well enough in the presidential elections, falling short in a few key states.

One more thought. It has been concluded by the vast majority of data scientists and pollsters that if it were not for Covid-19 Trump would be reinaugurated on Jan 20th easily.

It had to take a one in a 100-year pandemic to force him from office.

This is why the Democrats are going for the juggler now with the impeachment process. They still fear him, and what he stands for. They want to try and slay the beast once and for all but if they do, they could make things a hell of a lot worse for themselves in the long run.

One thing the Democrats and the left always do, they overreach and believe their own morality is superior to anyone else. This is all political showmanship dressed up as morality. They are thinking about the next 10 years, which they want to dominate politically and bend the GOP to their will.

Again, overreaching because in 2022 when the midterms will be on us, many of them will be ****ed out of office, just like what happened in 2010 with Obama and 96 with Clinton.

Dont believe me?

It is common knowledge now that the way the Democrats handled the SCOTUS nomination of Brett Kavanaugh cost the Democrats the Senate in 2018. And because of that, they lost another pick at the Supreme Court....

It's like a universal law of physics, the Democrats will overreach.

You're not putting forth any history lessons.

rossie1977 · 09-01-2021 03:21AM

everlast75 wrote: »

Coastal elites?

That made me spit out my tea.

Wtf is Trump?

Jfc

Trump's are the working class family that are leading the populist movement against the coastal elites

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09-01-2021 03:25AM

A good riddance.

markodaly · 09-01-2021 03:33AM

Tony EH wrote: »

You're not putting forth any history lessons.

Maybe my comment was wasted seeing as some just want to vent and slay some dragons.

Personally, it will be interesting to see come the latter half of the year how the people can sustain the same level of outrage when the evil one, Trump will be well gone from the scene.

Eventually, Biden and Co. will have to govern and actually do some policy work.

fash · 09-01-2021 03:36AM

oldtimeyfella wrote: »

Congrats to twitter for making sure we get a much worse version of Trump in 4 years time.

They just couldn't help themselves and they had to pull the trigger early. They've played right into the narrative that he and his supporters are being silenced.

Really don't see this - a more feral Trump cult will only split the republican vote and push those in the middle/moderates towards the democrats. This turkey is done.

Tony EH · 09-01-2021 03:39AM

markodaly wrote: »

Maybe my comment was wasted seeing as some just want to vent and slay some dragons.

Personally, it will be interesting to see come the latter half of the year how the people can sustain the same level of outrage when the evil one, Trump will be well gone from the scene.

Eventually, Biden and Co. will have to govern and actually do some policy work.

Your post is essentially bUt tHe LeFt, and you're talking about "slaying dragons".

bewareofthedog · 09-01-2021 04:03AM

https://twitter.com/NunesDrag/status/1347735081981501454

Tippex · 09-01-2021 04:08AM

So trump gets banned from twitter.
He tweets from @potus and twitter deleted the tweets.
Them he posted the tweets on @teamtrump so they suspend that account too.
They are playing Whack-a-mole with him tonight how long before the rest of the family gets banned?

Kaybaykwah · 09-01-2021 04:16AM

Kumejima wrote: »

By deplatforming Trump, you are by implication, deplatforming the 75 million people who voted for him. Moreover, you are deplatforming and silencing the duly elected leader of your country. If you cannot see the dangerous implications of this, not merely in terms of free speech but purely in terms of any hopes of unifying the country you're hopelessly biased. If you say to people, "Your politics are unacceptable and are to be silenced, your views are bigoted and must be suppressed, your very existence and ability to speak must be removed from our collective airwaves", what then do you expect them to do exactly? Create your own platform a la Parler. Oops no, the Left will ban that too.

If you don't give people an option to air their grievances or call them bigoted racists when they do, what other recourse then is left to them to seek justice?

"**** em" - yeah you can get away with that sort of if you're dealing with a small minority with no power, purely pragmatically speaking.
This however is literally half your electorate, many of whom are heavily armed. How can you have "HEALING" as Biden called for, when only one side is allowed to speak and one side is denied any opportunity to express anything?

"A riot is the language of the unheard" is a phrase by Martin Luther King trotted out during the BLM protests. When the conservative white guys start rioting, as I believe they will, the Left will go " See - white males are the greatest terrorist threat in this country" and use it as an excuse to clamp down on their enemies even more. But you've left them literally no other avenue of expression to be heard.

Yes, a lot of people invested in this guy, and they are pissed off at the poor returns. I would think most of them are a lot more upset at losing to the democrats and their policies coming in than with Chump losing it. He is still a force to be reckoned with IMO. He won't be neutered unless he is legally prevented from entering another race.

Real Donald Trump · 09-01-2021 04:23AM

All the snowflakes can rest easy now. The big scary man is banned

jill_valentine · 09-01-2021 04:25AM

markodaly wrote: »

Eventually, Biden and Co. will have to govern and actually do some policy work.

This sounds like a terrific burn if you know absolutely nothing about Biden.

I remember during the election people kept demanding Biden's policies on x or y. We kept linking to them and they wouldn't read them because they were too detailed and the next page asked for them again.

We asked them to link to Trump's equivalent ones, but they... Weren't to be found at all.

So, for example, I'm sure the healthcare plan Trump announced was just around the corner any moment now for years was JUST about to be announced any moment now until he tried to end democracy in America. But in the meantime, here's Biden's -- https://joebiden.com/healthcare/

Biden started recieving his Covid 19 briefings in October btw. How many do you think Trump sat all the way through?

Junkyard Tom · 09-01-2021 04:29AM

markodaly wrote: »

I love the irony of self-identifying left-wingers preach about the right of capitalist corporations being allowed to do what they want.

Eh.. what was being mocked was those who claim to be champions of 'free market' capitalism crying about a private company deciding to ban Trump.

You need to send your irony-meter in for repair. Are you upset that Trump has been kicked off Twitter?

09-01-2021 04:32AM

I guess we'll have to look at twitters share price on Monday. The market, and all that.

Overheal · 09-01-2021 04:34AM

flazio wrote: »

According to a Wikipedia article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_Codes
The Secretary of Defence cannot veto the use of the Gold codes but my reading of that is he could delay long enough for Pence to invoke the 25th Amendment.

I still had a tab open way back in thread, saw this post; I think with the 'defacto 25th' state Axios reports the WH is operating in, I DOUBT they'd indicate any and all ways what the real situation is (national security, Mutually Assured Destruction, the most serious of &#!t), but I do have strong suspicions that those gold codes would not be on his person and if they are its because he's not in a position to do something absolutely biblically insane because we honestly don't know what his state of mind is. I imagine at a certain point he might even be placed on suicide watch if not already.

markodaly · 09-01-2021 04:36AM

everlast75 wrote: »

They need to be bitch slapped for at least two years, for the dems to be utterly ruthless.

Show them what it's like to be on the receiving end of partisan politics.

After that, *maybe* talk cooperation but until then, no mercy

Why do you have to use misogynist language?

Where is the call for Unity that 'your' guy Biden has been talking about?

mcmoustache · 09-01-2021 04:36AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

ah yes CNN, owned by that well known socialist workers collective AT&T

Anyone thinking that corporate media is left wing really needs to take a long hard look at themselves and ask how they became the way that they are because something clearly went wrong somewhere.

markodaly · 09-01-2021 04:41AM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Eh.. what was being mocked was those who claim to be champions of 'free market' capitalism crying about a private company deciding to ban Trump.

You need to send your irony-meter in for repair. Are you upset that Trump has been kicked off Twitter?

Upset? Why would I be upset about it? Its not my account and I rarely use Twitter.
There is irony on both sides here but I guess the left is neo-liberal when it suits them.

Anyway, all this does is put the squeeze on the big Silicon Valley companies. They will be broken up in due course, the EU is well on the path for a while now and this will make Silicon Valley the enemy for approx 45-47% of Americans and the GOP.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/12/11/facebook-breakup-antitrust/

The Big Tech stock ride could be bursting?

mcmoustache · 09-01-2021 04:41AM

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/parlertakes/status/1347680738586447872?s=19

He sounds like he's suffering from a derangement of sorts. Possibly Trump related.

markodaly · 09-01-2021 04:46AM

mcmoustache wrote: »

Anyone thinking that corporate media is left wing really needs to take a long hard look at themselves and ask how they became the way that they are because something clearly went wrong somewhere.

American media picks its audience and goes from there.

If there is a Republican in the WH, the likes of CNN and MSNBC will crank up the outrage.
If there is a Democrat in the WH, the likes of FoxNews and talk radio will crank up the outrage.

The open secret is that Trump has been very very good to MSM media outlets like CNN and NBC.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2020-11-23/cable-tv-news-donald-trump-fox-news-cnn-msnbc

Now that Trump is off the stage, what else can these media outlets offer rather than consistent outrage?
People will simply tune out and do some gardening or something, leaving a big hole in the balance sheet.

Its like the end of the Sopranos! What will HBO come out with next?

:D
Biden may be many things but exciting, outragous and new is not one of them.

markodaly · 09-01-2021 04:50AM

jill_valentine wrote: »

This sounds like a terrific burn if you know absolutely nothing about Biden.

I remember during the election people kept demanding Biden's policies on x or y. We kept linking to them and they wouldn't read them because they were too detailed and the next page asked for them again.

We asked them to link to Trump's equivalent ones, but they... Weren't to be found at all.

So, for example, I'm sure the healthcare plan Trump announced was just around the corner any moment now for years was JUST about to be announced any moment now until he tried to end democracy in America. But in the meantime, here's Biden's -- https://joebiden.com/healthcare/

Biden started recieving his Covid 19 briefings in October btw. How many do you think Trump sat all the way through?

See, even in your retort, you mentioned Trump 3 times.
I guess there will be a lot of that in the next few months and years.

To be clear, I am not saying Biden has no policies, my post was about Biden actually running the country and enacting those policies with the help of Congress, rather then all arms of government focusing on who the last president was.

Strumms · 09-01-2021 04:52AM

Kumejima wrote: »

By deplatforming Trump, you are by implication, deplatforming the 75 million people who voted for him. Moreover, you are deplatforming and silencing the duly elected leader of your country.

If he broke twitters terms of use, they are correct to ban..

Twitter are also protecting themselves... if it kicks off, and there is a lot of collateral damage, violence or worse... Twitter could be sued.... it looks like Trump has tried to insight violence going by what twitter is saying... and his tweets... he’s been careful with his language but he’s it’s obvious he’s stoking...

basillarkin · 09-01-2021 04:55AM

mcmoustache wrote: »

He sounds like he's suffering from a derangement of sorts. Possibly Trump related.

Wtf was that gibberish

rossie1977 · 09-01-2021 04:58AM

markodaly wrote: »

Upset? Why would I be upset about it? Its not my account and I rarely use Twitter.
There is irony on both sides here but I guess the left is neo-liberal when it suits them.

Anyway, all this does is put the squeeze on the big Silicon Valley companies. They will be broken up in due course, the EU is well on the path for a while now and this will make Silicon Valley the enemy for approx 45-47% of Americans and the GOP.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/12/11/facebook-breakup-antitrust/

The Big Tech stock ride could be bursting?

Big tech along with TV and talk radio have enabled far right conspiracies and recruitment for decades now.

jill_valentine · 09-01-2021 05:55AM

Zip Tie guys were both ID'd with Ronan Farrow's involvement, chap is having quite a streak -

https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1347764665821102084

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