Trump vs Biden 2020, Ultimate battle for the fate of our universe (pt 3)Read OP 01/11

ohnonotgmail

RIGOLO wrote: »

There are alot of hypotheticals in there...
if the polls are right
if Joe wins the presidency
if the Dems win the senate ..
if he then decides to pack the court
if all Dems in moderate states choose to vote to pack the supreme court ..
if a current sitting scotus pops off

so thats at least 5 big 'ifs' ... and theres probably others ..

meanwhile on the non-hypothetical no ifs required , side of things

Donal Trump the man with the gold plated suite overlooking NY from 50 floors up, HAS appointed 3 judges to the SCOTUS , all relatively young .

no need for number 5.

RIGOLO

gmisk wrote: »

Has Trump not done that pretty much at all levels of the judiciary since taking over?

thats like asking a soccer player if he would score into an empty net in a cup final if the oppossition goal keeper passed him the ball ..

Obama is the goal keeper , and he left 40 Federal judicial seats vacant when he left office .

Trump simply tapped each one over the line .. goal..goal..goall.. goall

gmisk

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

no need for number 5.

Plus the first 2 are pretty much the same....if the polls are correct he is the next president...

Kermit.de.frog

MoonUnit75 wrote: »

This election is definitely between two thin skinned hot-heads with explosive anger issues.

No, no it isn't.

gmisk

RIGOLO wrote: »

thats like asking a soccer player if he would score into an empty net in a cup final if the oppossition goal keeper passed him the ball ..

Obama is the goal keeper , and he left 40 Federal judicial seats vacant when he left office .

Trump simply tapped each one over the line .. goal..goal..goall.. goall

You could have just said...yes.
No need for the laboured metaphors.

Zubeneschamali

stefanovich wrote: »

Yes, it's called packing the court and it is highly irregular

Trump and McConnell have shown that they don't care about norms, traditions or regular order. When they had the Presidency and Senate, they did what they wanted, norms be damned.

But just like the deficit, the Republicans will pivot on a dime as soon as the Democrats are in power, and the norms and traditions will suddenly be important.

Nope: Elections have consequences.

ohnonotgmail

RIGOLO wrote: »

thats like asking a soccer player if he would score into an empty net in a cup final if the oppossition goal keeper passed him the ball ..

Obama is the goal keeper , and he left 40 Federal judicial seats vacant when he left office .

Trump simply tapped each one over the line .. goal..goal..goall.. goall

do you understand how federal judges get approved? I dont think you do.

8-10

RIGOLO wrote: »

thats like asking a soccer player if he would score into an empty net in a cup final if the oppossition goal keeper passed him the ball ..

Obama is the goal keeper , and he left 40 Federal judicial seats vacant when he left office .

Trump simply tapped each one over the line .. goal..goal..goall.. goall

That's a bit disingenuous, McConnell spent 2 years creating those openings. Obama didn't choose to leave that many vacancies, Mitch created them and admitted as such afterwards

Zubeneschamali

8-10 wrote: »

McConnell spent 2 years creating those openings. Obama didn't choose to leave that many vacancies, Mitch created them and admitted as such afterwards

Which is why the Democrats should immediately set about reforming the federal bench once they get the power to do so.

Kermit.de.frog

Trump just told he is 12 points behind in Michigan by Fox.

Of course he can't take it

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1319274192211247104

cnocbui

stefanovich wrote: »

Yes, it's called packing the court and it is highly irregular

As opposed to Gerrymandering the court. US politics is sick to the core. The very idea of massive political influence and rigging of the judicial system being an admirable aim and an achievement to be proud of and to brag about just highlites how utterly flawed the whole process of government is in the US.

Quin_Dub

timsey tiger wrote: »

Real Clear Politics, have moved Michigan to lean Biden following a Fox news poll putting him 12 points up.

For all of you confident in Trafalgar's methodology :rolleyes:, they have Trump 1% ahead and there is still time to remortgage the house and put it on Trump.

To be fair , they also moved Minnesota back to Toss-up from "lean Biden" earlier in the week so it's a small net gain for Biden in the "Lean Blue" category.

Interesting to see that the "vs. 2016" Comparison in the swing states in moving back to Biden.

Biden has been ahead for quite some time , but for the last 2 weeks the gap has been smaller than it was in the same timeframe as 2016.

Something that a lot of Trump supporters viewed as a sign that Trump was making a comeback etc.

However , that neglected the dynamics of that particular period in 2016 - The 1st two weeks of October coincide with the release of the "Access Hollywood" when Trumps numbers absolutely cratered for a while before recovering.

His recent "recovery" compared to 2016 wasn't really a recovery.

cnocbui

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Trump just told he is 12 points behind in Michigan by Fox.

Of course he can't take it

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1319274192211247104

Lol - Fox is run by Murdoch, Trump's main ally. For him to be seing Murdoch as an enemy is paranoia of the alredy defeated.

stefanovich

https://donaldtrump.watch/

Democrats already compiling lists of voters to send to the gulags.

Quin_Dub

stefanovich wrote: »

https://donaldtrump.watch/

Democrats already compiling lists of voters to send to the gulags.

Missed this on the Homepage I assume

This is a privately owned website that is not affiliated with any government agencies

Doesn't look like is affiliated with anything official.

It's a pretty pathetic website though I'll grant you that..

Quin_Dub

cnocbui wrote: »

Lol - Fox is run by Murdoch, Trump's main ally. For him to be seing Murdoch as an enemy is paranoia of the alredy defeated.

Fox Polling is actually very highly rated - It's an 'A' on 538.

stefanovich

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Missed this on the Homepage I assume



Doesn't look like is affiliated with anything official.

It's a pretty pathetic website though I'll grant you that..

More than pathetic. I would call it voter intimidation. Disgraceful.

stefanovich

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Missed this on the Homepage I assume

Joe Biden supporters then...

astrofool

stefanovich wrote: »

More than pathetic. I would call it voter intimidation. Disgraceful.

Apart from when Trump tries to intimidate voters then?

Is Trump also a disgrace?

gmisk

stefanovich wrote: »

https://donaldtrump.watch/

Democrats already compiling lists of voters to send to the gulags.

It literally links to the fec.gov database which is open to anyone, which anyone can search for anyone...including Joe Biden. It is also in no way linked to biden but then again you know that.

Gulag...ffs would you ever wise up with that nonsense lol

ohnonotgmail

stefanovich wrote: »

https://donaldtrump.watch/

Democrats already compiling lists of voters to send to the gulags.

a list of doners compiled from publicly available information. can you point out where it mentions gulags? I can't find that bit.

stefanovich

gmisk wrote: »

It literally links to the fec.gov database which is open to anyone, which anyone can search for anyone...including Joe Biden. It is also in no way linked to biden but then again you know that.

Gulag...ffs

What is the purpose of its existence?

It's a damn list of Trump voters. So their neighbours can harrass them.

cnocbui

stefanovich wrote: »

https://donaldtrump.watch/

Democrats already compiling lists of voters to send to the gulags.

That is shocking. Utterly unprecedented!

List of Trump Administration Dismissals and Resignations.

If you plan on following the link, I suggest you cancel any apointments and plans you might have for the forthcoming week, in order to allow enough time to scroll down it.

ohnonotgmail

stefanovich wrote: »

What is the purpose of its existence?

It's a damn list of Trump voters. So their neighbours can harrass them.

it is a list of trump DONORS not voters. compiled from publicly available information. and some of the data goes back to the last election.

Overheal

Real Donald Trump wrote: »

How come ye lads don't have the same love and admiration for auld Joe?

I’d say nobody had that admiration for Obama before he went in and did the job.

Also that post about drones and bombs - Trump has done everything on that list bigger and nastier. Facts.

Overheal

stefanovich wrote: »

Yes, it's called packing the court and it is highly irregular

Completely agree, but that’s exactly what’s been going on:

The GOP blocked 1 Justice nomination and well over 100 federal judges from being confirmed. Then they campaigned even on Obamas inability to fill those vacancies (because they wouldn’t allow them) and ever since Trump won those seats have all been filled with party handpicks and a lot of unqualified people. Several hundred federal judges now. Trump has appointed over a quarter of the judges that make up the justice system now.

It is indeed irregular and may require packing to combat packing to return to normal.

Overheal

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

do you understand how federal judges get approved? I dont think you do.

Oh he does.

MoonUnit75

More developments, Hunter Biden's laptop was apparently seized by the FBI from the repair shop as part of an existing money laundering investigation, according to newly released documents.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/hunter-bidens-purported-laptop-connected-to-fbi-money-laundering-investigation/

The document has a “Case ID” section, which is filled in with a hand-written number: 272D-BA-3065729, according to the report, which says multiple officials and the FBI’s website confirm that “272” is the bureau’s classification for money laundering and “272D” refers to “Money Laundering, Unknown SUA [Specified Unlawful Activity]—White Collar Crime Program,” according to FBI documents. One government official told Fox News that “272D” is “transnational or blanket.”

“BA” means that the case was opened in the FBI’s Baltimore field office, while the documents say that the subpoena was carried out in Wilmington, Del., which is under the jurisdiction of the Baltimore field office.

“The FBI cannot open a case without predication, so they believed there was predication for criminal activity,” a government official told Fox News. “This means there was sufficient evidence to believe that there was criminal conduct.”

Gets worse and worse for Hunter and Joe Biden.

ohnonotgmail

stefanovich wrote: »

What is the purpose of its existence?

It's a damn list of Trump voters. So their neighbours can harrass them.

oh look, ,it is the same data on a government website. Is that put there so donors can be sent to the gulags?

https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/individual-contributions/?two_year_transaction_period=2020&min_date=01%2F01%2F2019&max_date=12%2F31%2F2020

Manic Moran

Overheal wrote: »

Completely agree, but that’s exactly what’s been going on:

The GOP blocked 1 Justice nomination and well over 100 federal judges from being confirmed. Then they campaigned even on Obamas inability to fill those vacancies (because they wouldn’t allow them) and ever since Trump won those seats have all been filled with party handpicks and a lot of unqualified people. Several hundred federal judges now. Trump has appointed over a quarter of the judges that make up the justice system now.

It is indeed irregular and may require packing to combat packing to return to normal.

What's 'normal'?

Irregular implies unlawful or illegal. You may not -like- that hand-picked judges have been appointed, or that the Senators blocked judges on ideological vs qualification grounds, but that's not to say it's not within their acknowledged powers to do so. Witness Nixon's over-a-year-long attempt to fill a seat in the late 1960s. Is not your proposed solution more hand-picking of judges?