Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VIII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

Itssoeasy

Trump is saying that he didn’t have several mini strokes which was the reason he had to go to Walter Reed hospital which was shrouded in mystery. The media seemed to have no inkling as to what it was about since it happened. Is this a case of him getting out in front of a story that isn’t really a story like the walking down a ramp at West Point which wasn’t a thing until he brought it up.

Professor Moriarty

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Trump is saying that he didn’t have several mini strokes which was the reason he had to go to Walter Reed hospital which was shrouded in mystery. The media seemed to have no inkling as to what it was about since it happened. Is this a case of him getting out in front of a story that isn’t really a story like the walking down a ramp at West Point which wasn’t a thing until he brought it up.

Yeah, about that. The walking thing and the hospital thing? Heel spurs.

Timberrrrrrrr

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Trump is saying that he didn’t have several mini strokes which was the reason he had to go to Walter Reed hospital which was shrouded in mystery. The media seemed to have no inkling as to what it was about since it happened. Is this a case of him getting out in front of a story that isn’t really a story like the walking down a ramp at West Point which wasn’t a thing until he brought it up.

#Trumpstroke is trending on Twitter and gaining momentum.

Edit: it's actually trending at Number 1 now.

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Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

#Trumpstroke is trending on Twitter and gaining momentum.

The zealots will soon start whinging that it's fake news msm blah blah blah, conveniently ignoring of course that they have consistently speculated on Biden’s health for months.

Water John

extra gravy wrote: »

The zealots will soon start whinging that it's fake news msm blah blah blah, conveniently ignoring of course that they have consistently speculated on Biden’s health for months.

Karma's a bitch.
Well MP was on standby. All we've been told is that it wasn't stroke or cardiac. But we also know it was not, routine tests.

Timberrrrrrrr

Water John wrote: »

Karma's a bitch.
Well MP was on standby. All we've been told is that it wasn't stroke or cardiac. But we also know it was not, routine tests.

Which means it probably was. No way would Trump or the Republican party admit this especially this close to the elections.

Itssoeasy

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

#Trumpstroke is trending on Twitter and gaining momentum.

Edit: it's actually trending at Number 1 now.

It does seem it’s in a new book to be released and the presidents doctor has released a statement saying the media reporting is false. The issue though is the media weren’t reporting it because they’ve had the reporter from the New York Times who has written the book on and he’s mentioned parts of it but you’d think he’d mention this very serious allegation but he hasn’t as far as I know. So again Donald trump is getting ahead of his skis on this. The only reason it’s trending is because of the president mentioning it, which I’m sure will do the books sales the world of good.

Man with broke phone

Its a desperate tactic trying to diagnose strokes. Probably start slagging his hands next.

Gerry Hatrick

Democrats getting desperate now. Trumpstroke lol

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That's the funny part, he's denied something that nobody has actually reported on, it was just an idea floated by some Twitter users.

Water John

Ah with that orangy skin, the liver must be acting up.

The story of the mini strokes is coming in a book.

Itssoeasy

Man with broke phone wrote: »

Its a desperate tactic trying to diagnose strokes. Probably start slagging his hands next.

Desperate tactic ? So the White House aides told to apparently have mike pence on standby just made this story up then is basically what you are saying. This White House leaks so bad it makes the titanic which is in two parts at the bottom of the North Atlantic a sea worthy vessel.

Start slagging ? For them to start again they’d have had to stop.

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Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

Democrats getting desperate now. Trumpstroke lol

Says the guy who posted Biden’s little verbal stumble with glee. Desperate indeed.

Man with broke phone

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Desperate tactic ? So the White House aides told to apparently have mike pence on standby just made this story up then is basically what you are saying. This White House leaks so bad it makes the titanic which is in two parts at the bottom of the North Atlantic a sea worthy vessel.

Start slagging ? For them to start again they’d have had to stop.

Mike Pence would still beat Biden.

Itssoeasy

Man with broke phone wrote: »

Mike Pence would still beat Biden.

Okay. That’s not really relevant though is it ? It’s highly unlikely that joe Biden and mike pence will be presidential candidates together. I will say that while joe Biden isn’t perfect at least he doesn’t come across as disingenuous like mike pence does. Mike pence professes to be a devout Christian yet he serves as Vice President for a guy who wouldn’t know Christianity if it was bright blue and slapped him.

Professor Moriarty

Man with broke phone wrote: »

Mike Pence would still beat Biden.

Kamala Harris would beat Mike Pence.

Water John

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Kamala Harris would beat Mike Pence.

She'll have fun with twisting him in their debate.

retalivity

Carfacemandog wrote: »

Because he has built up a cult, who agree wholeheartedly and entirely when he says one thing, and then agree wholeheartedly and entirely when he says the opposite. It doesn't matter a jot what he says, they will agree with it.

Like for example how covid was a hoax made up by the democrats to make him look bad, but he was also doing everything he could to stop this very real and dangerous virus that isn't even a big deal nor worth locking down over, or wearing a mask to prevent against except when he wore a mask which proves how serious this is and how seriously he is taking it even though it's not a big deal and only 6% of the supposed 180,000+ have died from it, which is why it is such a big deal that nobody could stop and the only reason for America's economy falling through the floor which it totally hasn't, which would have happened no matter who was in charge, which shows how well Trump is dealing with this crisis where others would have failed.

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.

The maga guys are really running hard with the last one.

ArmaniJeanss

DT marginal favourite now with unibet and 888, straight cointoss with Boyles, betVictor and WilliamHill. JB wafer-thin favourite with the other bookmakers.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2020/winner

Has anything in particular happened in the last week for this to happen, e.g., polls in marginal states?

I'd kinda convinced myself a few weeks ago that it was one-way traffic in Biden's favour.

aloyisious

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Trump is saying that he didn’t have several mini strokes which was the reason he had to go to Walter Reed hospital which was shrouded in mystery. The media seemed to have no inkling as to what it was about since it happened. Is this a case of him getting out in front of a story that isn’t really a story like the walking down a ramp at West Point which wasn’t a thing until he brought it up.

Some media site ran a story a few hours ago that Mike Pence was put on standby to be sworn in as President on that day that Trump paid Walter Reed hospital a non-appointment medical visit.

Itssoeasy

aloyisious wrote: »

Some media site ran a story a few hours ago that Mike Pence was put on standby to be sworn in as President on that day that Trump paid Walter Reed hospital a non-appointment medical visit.

I’ve seen that but it was the president’s doctor who mentions strokes and I don’t think a VP has to take the oath when the 25th amendment(the part involving temporary transfer of power) because it’s not a permanent change. But until now all anyone knew was it was a non scheduled visit. The president has said the word stroke.

aloyisious

On the number of social grouping constituencies and professional classes, how many has Don not offended against?

The medics at all levels would have to be pissed off with him due to his "many people" quotes and advice-offering to the public at large on self treatment and protective actions to take where Covid-19 is concerned. How many other groups, aside from ethnic groups, has his handling of the nation's affairs affected negatively which may cause backlash on the 3rd Nov?

Is it too early to start checking to see how many GOP candidates will be asking him not to show up as a supporting act at their local and state election rallies?

FrostyJack

aloyisious wrote: »

Some media site ran a story a few hours ago that Mike Pence was put on standby to be sworn in as President on that day that Trump paid Walter Reed hospital a non-appointment medical visit.

There is a book coming out which claims it, that is what he is getting ahead off. Would be interesting to see the details in it. The thoughts of Mike Pence being sworn in, gives one shivers. Could imagine the power going to his head and standing up shouting "Mother, I told you I would make it", then going full Joffery.

Leroy42

Something definitely happened, whether it be mini-stroke or not.

Pence was caught off guard by the question and it was clear he was trying to give an answer without telling the truth, but also without coming across as lying.

His line that a VP is always ready to take over is the key one, IMO. He is accepting that he was informed that that time might be now, but without having to admit that he was actually told about it.

Of course the main issue for Trump is one of his own making. He has lied so consistently and on such trivial matters so much in the past 4 years, that everything he now says, apart from his supporters who don't care about the veracity of anything he says, is taken at best with a pinch of salt and the more personal it is the more likely it is to be a lie.

And even worse, it was Tump team that brought medical issues into the race by continually deeming that Biedn was suffering dementia or other mental decline.

Tell me how

Leroy42 wrote: »

And even worse, it was Tump team that brought medical issues into the race by continually deeming that Biedn was suffering dementia or other mental decline.

Trumps tweets yesterday on this came across to me as him only drawing attention to it with the way he was trying to refute it.

Leroy42

Tell me how wrote: »

Trumps tweets yesterday on this came across to me as him only drawing attention to it with the way he was trying to refute it.

History of Trump shows us that he is trying to put target something particular in the story so that he can deny that, as make it look like the entire story is false.

Take Pence answer yesterday. Did someone actually inform him to get ready to take over? Probably not, as it would be inherent if he was told that Trump was being rushed to hospital.

So he can say, truthfully, that no one said to him on that day to get ready to assume command. And then you focus on that rather than the substantive part of the story to decry it as fake news.

They have used this tactic numerous times over the last 4 years. 1st the story is completely fake news, then no actual denials, as it is fake news. Then agree that parts of it as true, but not as reported. By the time that comes out a new issue as arisen

CelticRambler

They way I see this whole episode is the anti-Trumpers (Reps as well as Dems) playing Trump at his own game. I saw the Lincoln Project run a #trumpisnotwell ad last week (?) and thought "that'll get him riled up" and sure enough, now he's riled up and tweeting denials of things that were never overtly stated.

To an extent, Trump is right now: it has become a witchhunt - but only because he's made himself into an easy, predictable, very huntable target. I suspect we'll see an awful lot more of this between now and November, and some of these conspiracy theories are going to lodge in the brains of his base.

Igotadose

In other news, seems like there's an investigation into the 2016 #IMPOTUS inauguration event, which cost his sheep $107million in donations, and may not have been on the up-and-up. The 'event planner' was thrown under the bus by the WH. Thing is, she was friends with the FLOTUS which is how she got the job, but once it became clear she'd take the fall for the alleged swindling, she tape-recorded conversations with the FLOTUS. Be interesting if in fact there are chargeable offenses that include the FLOTUS coming out of this.

https://apnews.com/54d09be4086a084ff13ed11561871581

TomOnBoard

Igotadose wrote: »

In other news, seems like there's an investigation into the 2016 #IMPOTUS inauguration event, which cost his sheep $107million in donations, and may not have been on the up-and-up. The 'event planner' was thrown under the bus by the WH. Thing is, she was friends with the FLOTUS which is how she got the job, but once it became clear she'd take the fall for the alleged swindling, she tape-recorded conversations with the FLOTUS. Be interesting if in fact there are chargeable offenses that include the FLOTUS coming out of this.

https://apnews.com/54d09be4086a084ff13ed11561871581

Well, there's been a criminal investigation ongoing on this whole inauguration thing for over a year now. Wolkoff herself is said to be cooperating fully with that investigation, after she had been ' scapegoated' by the WH, and she started taping her calls with Melania and others "to protect herself". It's seems a company she set up dealt with some $25+ million of the $107 million, from which she earned $1.6 million herself.

The whole thing appears to be an example of another giant grift, and Trump businesses were large-scale beneficiaries of the project. I don't know who's handling the investigation, but I'm sure it won't produce any indictments this side of November if Billy Barr has his way...

fullstop

Holy ****, that cans of soup monologue was off the wall, even for him. The man is unhinged. You’d have to fear for the outlook in the US for the next decade, regardless of whether he wins the election or not. He has stoked so much hate and fear and created so many divisions, massive amounts of violence seems inevitable.
It’s actually unbelievable to see that there’s a movement on Twitter promoting that kid who shot a load of people as a true patriot who should be freed immediately.