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Had enough of this lockdown am I the only person feeling like this?

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    #452
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Can someone tell me what restriction was placed on the over 70's?
    The government seems to have made a big deal of getting this restriction lifted, did it actually exist in the first place? My understanding was the over 70's were advised to stay indoors but there was no legal requirements to do so.

    correct. it's some kind of weird power play by the authorities "allowing" people to do something they were never not allowed to do.


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    #453
    Ballso
    Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Can someone tell me what restriction was placed on the over 70's?
    The government seems to have made a big deal of getting this restriction lifted, did it actually exist in the first place? My understanding was the over 70's were advised to stay indoors but there was no legal requirements to do so.

    Compliance is voluntary mate, this isn't the USSR


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    #454
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users Posts: 18,377 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Can someone tell me what restriction was placed on the over 70's?
    The government seems to have made a big deal of getting this restriction lifted, did it actually exist in the first place? My understanding was the over 70's were advised to stay indoors but there was no legal requirements to do so.

    They did not have to stay in they were advised to stay in. But as most over 70's have a lot of underlying conditions the covid19 is more likely to be fatal for them. So it was in thier interests to stay inside. My mother and father would not go out for instance. Myself and the nieghbours did shopping for them.

    The fact the restrictions advice is being lifted a bit, means that the health professionals believe that the risk has been lowered for the over 70's.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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    #455
    Ballso
    Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    The fact the restriction is being lifted means that the health professional believe that the risk has been lowered for the over 70's.

    Crazy that you have to explain that. I see the oddballs are out in force in this thread


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    #456
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users Posts: 16,113 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Can someone tell me what restriction was placed on the over 70's?
    The government seems to have made a big deal of getting this restriction lifted, did it actually exist in the first place? My understanding was the over 70's were advised to stay indoors but there was no legal requirements to do so.

    A lot of over 70,s I know are following the HSE recommendations and taking them as a “ rule “
    Now the “ rule “ is lifted they feel more relaxed at being out .
    Also the increase to 5k has opened up more opportunities for walks in a park rather than in a housing estate


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    #457
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Ballso wrote: »
    Compliance is voluntary mate, this isn't the USSR

    You missed what I said, to the best of my knowledge and it has been confirmed by others . The over 70's were 'advised' as opposed to restricted mate.


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    #458
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    I wonder the people who defend this lockdown and are loving it , how they'll feel when it's finally lifted - in about 2 years time ...

    There are large parts of society who have always been in lockdown, they only venture out for shopping, and spend most of the time watching tv, for these there is no visible difference in their quality of like, there is nothing abnormal about the situation.


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    #459
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users Posts: 18,377 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Ballso wrote: »
    Crazy that you have to explain that. I see the oddballs are out in force in this thread

    Maybe they are all really young. Or maybe are orphans and do not have any grandparents either.
    Or maybe thier parents/grandparents are extremely healthy with great sets of lungs, that will withstand and breathing difficulties that covid19 brings?

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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    #460
    Ballso
    Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    You missed what I said, to the best of my knowledge and it has been confirmed by others . The over 70's were 'advised' as opposed to restricted mate.

    Yes very good, the heath professionals running the crisis response advised that over 70s restrict movement, now they are advising a loosening of those restrictions.


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    #461
    Boggles
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    gormdubhgorm wrote: »

    The fact the restrictions advice is being lifted a bit, means that the health professionals believe that the risk has been lowered for the over 70's.

    I very much doubt it.

    The advice now is to get brief exercise and don't meet anyone.


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    #462
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    They did not have to stay in they were advised to stay in. But as most over 70's have a lot of underlying conditions the covid19 is more likely to be fatal for them. So it was in thier interests to stay inside. My mother and father would not go out for instance. Myself and the nieghbours did shopping for them.

    The fact the restrictions advice is being lifted a bit, means that the health professionals believe that the risk has been lowered for the over 70's.

    Incorrect, it's been well documented that NPHET were against advising/allowing over 70s to go out. The Govt over ruled them.


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    #463
    Plumbthedepths
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    Ballso wrote: »
    Yes very good, the heath professionals running the crisis response advised that over 70s restrict movement, now they are advising a loosening of those restrictions.

    Do you know the difference between advice and restriction?
    Actually don't bother.


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    #464
    phormium
    Registered Users Posts: 3,313 ✭✭✭phormium


    The initial ads on tv about cocooning etc said you 'must ' stay at home then about week or two ago they were changed to you 'should' stay at home. Definitely the impression was given initially that elderly were not allowed out.


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    #465
    gormdubhgorm
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    begbysback wrote: »
    There are large parts of society who have always been in lockdown, they only venture out for shopping, and spend most of the time watching tv, for these there is no visible difference in their quality of like, there is nothing abnormal about the situation.

    See above - re grandkids etc. Also it is a bit of generalisation to say thier quality of life is not affected.
    As those you speak of require more medical help than most. But the health system is now under pressure because of the covid19 also the issues of home help and so on. Many elderly are fearful at the best of times the covid19 has added another layer. Even getting prescriptions now has an added layer of difficulty for the elderly. Example only two per time in the chemist.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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    #466
    Ballso
    Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    phormium wrote: »
    The initial ads on tv about cocooning etc said you 'must ' stay at home then about week or two ago they were changed to you 'should' stay at home. Definitely the impression was given initially that elderly were not allowed out.

    What did you think was going to happen, were the army going to flood the streets cos aul Paddy went for a paper?


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    #467
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users Posts: 18,377 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Incorrect, it's been well documented that NPHET were against advising/allowing over 70s to go out. The Govt over ruled them.

    That's not what Coveney says -

    https://extra.ie/2020/05/05/news/irish-news/simon-coveney-nphet-cocooners

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    But I am sure most over 70's are sensible anyway - and can make thier own decisions based on thier health conditions.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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    #468
    AulWan
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    magic17 wrote: »
    I've definitely had enough. 25km from nearest family. Boyfriend lives 1.5 hours away. At this rate I'll be very lucky to see them before June. How is that fair? .

    I just lost a second precious member of my family to Covid-19 this morning. I'll never get to see them again.

    How is that fair?


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    #469
    Ballso
    Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    AulWan wrote: »
    I just lost a second precious member of my family to Covid-19 this morning. I'll never get to see them again.

    How is that fair?

    Sorry for your loss


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    #470
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    That's not what Coveney says -

    https://extra.ie/2020/05/05/news/irish-news/simon-coveney-nphet-cocooners

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    But I am sure most over 70's are sensible anyway - and can make thier own decisions based on thier health conditions.

    Didn't he base Ireland having a travel ban on the feelings of other countries?? "How would Ireland feel if Italy stopped all of our flights?" :rolleyes:

    Hardly a bastion of sense.

    Edit: Here’s NPHETs recommendations



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    #471
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    As someone who is expecting to get some very unpleasant news regarding the future of my job within the next 2 weeks, having worked in various forms since i was 14, i can safely say that i,ve had enough and that i increasingly suspect that we waaaay overcooked these restrictions.


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    #472
    Ballso
    Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    As someone who is expecting to get some very unpleasant news regarding the future of my job within the next 2 weeks, having worked in various forms since i was 14, i can safely say that i,ve had enough and that i increasingly suspect that we waaaay overcooked these restrictions.

    How many more should we have let die to protect your income?


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    #473
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Ballso wrote: »
    How many more should we have let die to protect your income?
    your income is all good, yeah?


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    #474
    Ballso
    Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    your income is all good, yeah?

    It's great thanks.


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    #475
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Ballso wrote: »
    How many more should we have let die to protect your income?

    How much has our death rate risen in comparison to the same period last year??


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    #476
    Ballso
    Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    How much has our death rate risen in comparison to the same period last year??

    It's risen enough to kill two family members of a poster a couple of posts before yours.

    Nobody is asking you ****ing autists to think, just do what you're told.


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    #477
    Jayesdiem
    Registered Users Posts: 908 ✭✭✭Jayesdiem


    Ballso wrote: »
    It's risen enough to kill two family members of a poster a couple of posts before yours.

    Nobody is asking you ****ing autists to think, just do what you're told.

    If you think this lockdown is so great why don’t you do yourself a favour and hide in your house all day long? A good number of people would rather not tip toe around this virus anymore. Those who want to have more than a good justification to do so. Some people’s livelihoods ARE their lives.


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    #478
    Gal2glam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37 ✭Gal2glam


    Ballso wrote: »
    How many more should we have let die to protect your income?

    It’s not just about income. It’s about people’s routines, their sanity, their mental health. Not everything is one dimensional.


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    #479
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    this simplification of the whole issue down to a binary choice between good and evil is somewhat revealing.


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    #480
    Ballso
    Registered Users Posts: 465 ✭✭Ballso


    Nobody gives a **** about your braindead waffle lads. People with actual skills and qualifications in the area are running the show, your pub-bore level input is not required. Just shut the the **** up.


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    #481
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    lol


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