Had enough of this lockdown am I the only person feeling like this?

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

It's funny too how, everywhere along the line, there's always some aspect of it that just makes no sense, many at this stage, that you can't question, and just have to go along with..

It feels like decades ago now but back around September when non-wet pubs(dry pubs?) were open, e.g. where you could get food and a drink, I went out a few times in the course of the month, and the annoying thing was, everywhere had their own different take on the rules and restrictions.

One place I was in I was told, "Sorry you can't sit there because you are within 2 metres of the woman sat behind you. You have to sit on the other side of the table".

OK, but where I was before, if she was infected and coughed, droplets would hit my back or the back of my head. Where I had to move to, if either of us coughed or sneezed, the droplets would hit either of our faces.

When the guy said I was within 2 metres of her when I had my back to her I actually wanted to have a tape measure on me because if it was within 2 metres, it was just barely.

And then youve got people feeling self important telling you their interpretation of rules that don't make sense and you can't question them. Its either "If youre unwilling to follow the rules we will have to ask you to leave" or "I'm just obeying orders".

I was on the train a while back. I wear a face gaiter rather than a mask, I have it pulled down and am drinking from a bottle of water, and an inspector walks by and tells me to put on a mask. I felt like saying to him "How the f&*& am I supposed to drink from the f*&king bottle with a mask on? I am in the act of drinking, cop yourself on".

mille100piedi

I have been in a lockdown for the past 10 years for a illness but it was much easier to accept the fact that I have lost so much of my freedom due to my health condition than the current situation. I find surreal waking up in the morning and thinking most of the world is in a lockdown just like me. It is depressing, I wonder young and/or healthy people can manage this

Strumms

opinionated3 wrote: »

When your own government tells you " we're all in this together" which is a blatant lie, you can't blame people for turning on each other.

The majority of ordinary everyday people were in it together.

Problem really was just the odd greedy fûckwits coupled with certain corners of the business world.

Like I said before, a pub near me was raided during lockdown , a bit of a less salubrious pub and a number of people were inside drinking... I’d seriously love to see a judge at license renewal time just refuse....” if you can’t be trusted to do your bit, adhere to the law and look after the health and wellbeing in your community, of your staff and customers, during a time of unprecedented danger..it’s not appropriate that your license is renewed, you can’t be trusted, ohh and you broke the law “.

I’d put 1000 euros down, that this won’t be happening.

sydthebeat

Strumms wrote: »

The majority of ordinary everyday people were in it together.

Problem really was just the odd greedy fûckwits coupled with certain corners of the business world.

Like I said before, a pub near me was raided during lockdown , a bit of a less salubrious pub and a number of people were inside drinking... I’d seriously love to see a judge at license renewal time just refuse....” if you can’t be trusted to do your bit, adhere to the law and look after the health and wellbeing in your community, of your staff and customers, during a time of unprecedented danger..it’s not appropriate that your license is renewed, you can’t be trusted, ohh and you broke the law “.

I’d put 1000 euros down, that this won’t be happening.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/garda%C3%AD-object-to-achill-pub-licence-renewal-on-grounds-of-covid-19-breaches-1.4351892

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/judge-refuses-to-renew-laois-pub-s-licence-after-garda%C3%AD-object-1.4461409

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40054136.html

the gardi are doing all they can anyway

Strumms

sydthebeat wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/garda%C3%AD-object-to-achill-pub-licence-renewal-on-grounds-of-covid-19-breaches-1.4351892

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/judge-refuses-to-renew-laois-pub-s-licence-after-garda%C3%AD-object-1.4461409

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40054136.html

the gardi are doing all they can anyway

Hopefully the courts back them and in turn back US...pub near me that took the piss are open since the early ‘70s. Entertaining the rougher clientele of the locality. We’ll see.

Antares35

meeeeh wrote: »

I'm actually ok during the whole thing but with two primary school kids and busy business our life wasn't full of excitement anyway. However one thing I firmly avoid is checking social media to see what others are doing and reading outraged accounts of rule breaking. There is no point getting angry and miserable about stuff we can't control and frankly obeying the rules and avoiding getting sick is not just good for society it's also for our own good.

We're kind of the same here, have an 8 month old (obviously was pregnant before this all started) and have another on the way now then we are done. I figure we might as well just get our family done and dusted while the world sleeps :P Our lives are kind of in lockdown anyway until they will be a bit older!

It's nice being at home with her too, although working and childminding has its challenges and we've had to be a really strong team to get it all covered. Also missed out on a lot (having family and friends around to help out, meetups with other parents etc.) but in the greater scheme I remind myself how fortunate we are. I can't imagine being frontline, retail etc. or trying to survive on PUP etc.

Used to check the numbers every day at 6om religiously, don't bother now. There's Covid threads that go on and on forever - used to follow these but they were just a source of such annoyance after a while - I don't know how people still have things to talk about!

Make sure we get daily exercise but at weekends we still avoid some of the scenic hotspots we used to enjoy, even though they are within our 5km, they are just mobbed and it's up to everyone to just keep themselves safe at this point - there is little to be gained from relying on everyone else to do the right thing unfortunately.

meeeeh

I actually have family and friends who had kids during lockdown and I don't envy them. I think it's very hard and there are very limited supports. Not seeing friends and family must be very hard. I'm not ignorant enough not to realise that I'm among the lucky ones. We have nice house with plenty of space and in nice walking paths in the neighbourhood. Frankly people like me have a lot less to moan about than those who lost jobs, are single and looking for a partner, live in abusive relationships or cramped conditions... That's why I don't think it's productive to get upset by any rule breaking. I don't know what people's circumstances are. Yes it's right the intentional and thoughtless restriction breaking is dealt with but it doesn't change in any what each of us has to do.

SafeSurfer

Will our constitutional rights continue to be suspended for the duration of the pandemic?

Itssoeasy

I was generally doing okay with the lockdowns since March last year until December just gone when my grandmother died and we had to have a funeral during a pandemic which wasn’t great because of the restrictions you could only have 25 people and there was no removal bar us as a family(all ten of us) going to the funeral home by ourselves. That made me appreciate Irish funerals and how we do them even more and hopefully when this is all over we go back to way we do them. The fact I’d only seen my grandmother four times(mostly in the summer) from a distance made her dying even worse because I’d normally see her every weekend without fail.

The government need to stop saying “we are all in this together” because it’s lost its effectiveness. Being in it all together to me means the people do our bit(which we have despite claims we haven’t) and the people in positions of power do theirs to make our efforts mean something. That hasn’t happened IMO. It certainly hasn’t happened since the summer anyway. It’s no wonder people are getting annoyed at this stage because at some point people were expecting to be some progress.

Cryptonovice

I am so deeply afraid that with the speed of the vaccine roll-out the virus is going to MUTATE and get ahead of all the efforts to date! Does anyone else foresee this happening? Like going back to square one over and over again! This is a living nightmare! I am sorry for the doom and gloom but its just how i feel

Antares35

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Will our constitutional rights continue to be suspended for the duration of the pandemic?

Who knows.

Constitutional rights are not absolute in any event, and can be restricted for the common good.

Antares35

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I was generally doing okay with the lockdowns since March last year until December just gone when my grandmother died and we had to have a funeral during a pandemic which wasn’t great because of the restrictions you could only have 25 people and there was no removal bar us as a family(all ten of us) going to the funeral home by ourselves. That made me appreciate Irish funerals and how we do them even more and hopefully when this is all over we go back to way we do them. The fact I’d only seen my grandmother four times(mostly in the summer) from a distance made her dying even worse because I’d normally see her every weekend without fail.

The government need to stop saying “we are all in this together” because it’s lost its effectiveness. Being in it all together to me means the people do our bit(which we have despite claims we haven’t) and the people in positions of power do theirs to make our efforts mean something. That hasn’t happened IMO. It certainly hasn’t happened since the summer anyway. It’s no wonder people are getting annoyed at this stage because at some point people were expecting to be some progress.

Like that ad campaign where they say "Covid is still a problem, and WE are the solution". I dont normally tell my radio to f*ck off but I make an exception for that one :pac:

Mullaghteelin

timeToLive wrote: »

I actually don't mind the lockdown but this governments lack of planning, dumb rules (5km), fines and the medias reporting and celebrity style approach does my head in.

The 5km restriction is totally arbitrary and makes no sense no matter what way you look at it.
The problem was that people unimaginatively descended en masse like sheep to the same places at the same time the moment the sun appeared.
We can't have massive crowds and traffic gridlock at parks and beaches. This had to be discouraged, but the blanket 5km (or 3km) restriction is an idiotic way of doing this.

raclle

meeeeh wrote: »

Frankly people like me have a lot less to moan about than those who lost jobs, are single and looking for a partner

This is me in a nutshell.

The whole country is in a depression but we need to be positive and change our way of thinking. We cant be selfish and need to show a lot more consideration towards others. I'm actually astounded with the attitude we have in this country and quite frankly ashamed. We are playing Russian roulette with peoples lives. Does society not care anymore? Imagine finding out you were the cause of someone's death. I've suffered mentally just as much as anyone but knowing I wont spread this virus and showing empathy towards others is more important

MrStuffins

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Will our constitutional rights continue to be suspended for the duration of the pandemic?

America is that way

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TomTomTim

Antares35 wrote: »

Who knows.

Constitutional rights are not absolute in any event, and can be restricted for the common good.

I don't think that's how it works. Rights compete with other rights. For one of my rights to be removed it must be justified, as in it must be shown that the other right in question deserves to prevail over the right that's being taken away. What right can you think of that justifies the removal of basic liberty rights?

Antares35

TomTomTim wrote: »

I don't think that's how it works. Rights compete with other rights. For one of my rights to be removed it must be justified, as in it must be shown that the other right in question deserves to prevail over the right that's being taken away. What right can you think of that justifies the removal of basic liberty rights?

Despite what you think, that is how it works. In any event you've just paraphrased what I said anyway. And I'm not getting into a merits debate with you on whether restrictions are justified.

TomTomTim

Antares35 wrote: »

Despite what you think, that is how it works. In any event you've just paraphrased what I said anyway. And I'm not getting into a merits debate with you on whether restrictions are justified.

Why bring the topic up if you won't discuss it? My simply point was that "common good" itself isn't a right, while some rights beating others could be considered for the "common good", there still needs to be individual rights in competition. I just wanted you to highlight what individual rights would trump the right to freedom of assembly, or any of the others rights that we've recently lost.

meeeeh

TomTomTim wrote: »

Why bring the topic up if you won't discuss it? My simply point was that "common good" itself isn't a right, while some rights beating others could be considered for the "common good", there still needs to be individual rights in competition. I just wanted you to highlight what individual rights would trump the right to freedom of assembly, or any of the others rights that we've recently lost.

Right to staying alive. Right not to be infected by a gobshyte spreading his snot intentionally and without any regard for others.

Anyway I'm sure supreme court will be only delighted to hear your arguments.

Mitch Connor

Today has been my worst day of the lockdowns, this March 5th level 5 has hit me harder than previous announcements.

I've had an easy time of it. I've not been impacted overall so I am lucky. myself and my wife are still employed and doing the jobs we had. I moved into my first home just as this started last year. I've lost no one to Covid. So i don't really complain.

But today, today i've been feeling down, today has been a struggle to concetrate my thoughts on anything. I'll get over it, and i'll get on with my day to day as I have done. But it feels somewhat cathartic to simply write down that today is a bad day.

I miss seeing and playing with my niece and nephew the most.

Antares35

TomTomTim wrote: »

Why bring the topic up if you won't discuss it? My simply point was that "common good" itself isn't a right, while some rights beating others could be considered for the "common good", there still needs to be individual rights in competition. I just wanted you to highlight what individual rights would trump the right to freedom of assembly, or any of the others rights that we've recently lost.

I didn't bring it up.