wpd wrote: » Ireland 7th worse in the world covid deaths vs population - Sweden and USA better than us Media not report this fact - hardly a sign of a successful lockdownhttps://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
Paddygreen wrote: » So many are dying at the frontline of the war on Covid19. I was glad to see that RTE the other night on Prime Time had a great piece on the weapons needed to fight the war on Covid19, it was awe inspiring. This is war folks, war on Covid19. So far we have kept up our moral with things like clapping for our healthcare hero's on the frontline, having virtual sessions so we can feel like we are not drinking alone at home and baking. I myself have made flap jacks and pancakes and I'm not really sure if that can be considered baking, but it is close enough.
jonnny68 wrote: » There's some amount of doom and gloom merchants on this forum and lockdown fanatics,jaysus imagine having to live in the same house as these absolute nutters:eek:
theological wrote: » I find it odd when I see people relishing the thought of being shuttered at home under effective house arrest for 18 months. I expect the government to use the time that I am lending them to be able to put alternative measures in place to begin being able to come out of this lockdown. We shouldn't expect any less. Transparency should be demanded in the coming weeks.
Infini wrote: » Honestly I think while some people are starting to suffer a bit of "cabin fever" they need to be reminded and keep reminding themselves that staying at home IS WORKING, the numbers are coming down and that if we can last another 2 or 3 weeks it will be enough to be able to manage this and gradually reopen things. It sucks that we've all be mostly stuck at home for the best part of 2 months but if we dont do this right the first time we get stuck in a repeat loop and more people die. It sucks but the alternative IS WORSE.
jonnny68 wrote: » sarcasm isnt your strong point mate, repeat after me.....must try harder.
weldoninhio wrote: » We accept a certain % of people who drive dying per year, or are you in favour of parking the car up until such a time we can drive without fatalities??
Gidea wrote: » Apple and oranges there. Also we dont accept deaths on the road. Safety standards have increase massivly in cars due to regulations or 'restrictions', and divers are punished if drink drinking/driving iressposnably etc. Its a tragedy that people are still driving pissed and/or recklessly on roads causing death If you want to compare the two, then people who are flauntnig current restrictions are the same as people driving while on their phone or pissed.
theological wrote: » The government also need to level with the public and be transparent. If people are given an idea as to how long this will last their support will be ensured.
theological wrote: » And eventually in this pandemic we are going to have to work to build alternative safeguarding measures so we can come out of lockdown. Or am I wrong on this?
Concretejungle wrote: » The Govt. can't be transparent because unfortunately they don't know how long this virus is going to go on, so they can't tell us when the restrictions will be lifted and that's the frustrating part. They are trying to level with the people by telling them what stage we need to be at before we can go back to normal but they don't know when we will reach that stage. I don't know what the answer is. I wish I did.
Gidea wrote: » No i agree with this, but we shouldnt reach a point where we consider an acceptable number of daily deaths to come out of lockdown. 1 per day is too much for something that wasnt here a year ago. (I dont agree with the swedish modal, they've a similar amount of cases and twice the deaths) More people have died during this pandemic than in the easter rising and will soon surpass the deaths of the irish civil war, and its only been 8 weeks. Its easliy the biggest health crisis and risk to life we've experienced during the course of the republic. People need to play ball with the government while they try and manage it. ATM current restrictions are working IMO. If they need time to see what works and doesn't then we should give it to them.
Gidea wrote: » Hes arguing the point that we should accept a number of people dying per day. This is unacceptable in my mind as it would be asking me to accept the possibility of my parents dying as they are over 75 and in the at risk group. Im all for getting patients into hosptiples for non COVID related reasons, but we shouldnt accept daily deaths from a preventable virus in order to do this
magic17 wrote: » I've definitely had enough. 25km from nearest family. Boyfriend lives 1.5 hours away. At this rate I'll be very lucky to see them before June. How is that fair? By all means encourage social distancing, close the schools, encourage people to work from home and cancel large gatherings but stopping people from being around their loved ones is becoming very hard to take. I've complied up to now and would be happy to do another week or so of this but after that it becomes far too much to ask of people. I'm sure there's plenty of people in similar situations.
weldoninhio wrote: » Every year hundreds of thousands of people die in RTAs worldwide. Again, should we stop all driving until such a time it is 100% safe.
MrStuffins wrote: » You think a virus cares about fair? Where does fairness come into this at all? I wish people would stop whining as if they are owed something here. There is a virus. We need to stop it spreading. It's working. We just have to keep it up a little while longer. "Oh no, I can't see my boyfriend" "Oh no, I can't get my haircut" "Oh no, I can't drive to an arbitrary spot for no other reason than to be awkward" Stop crying like little children about it and suck it up!
empacher wrote: » 148 died on Irish roads in 2019. Not much of a comparison.
The main causes of death and personal injury on Irish roads remain speeding, drink driving and non-wearing of seat-belts.
MrStuffins wrote: » I wish people would stop whining as if they are owed something here.
