CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

Beasty

Alas I've had to shorten the thread title further to facilitate going up to number XI...

Can everyone pay attention to the mod warnings carried over from earlier threads and set out below. In particular please remain civil to each other

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Mod warnings:

Beasty wrote: »

OK, time to step in with some mod instructions:

1. Please interact in a civil manner
2. Do not tell others what to do, or what to post
3. If you have a problem with a post report it and leave the modding to the mods

In terms of thread content:

4. Treat everything you read here with caution. Anything posted is from an anonymous internet poster. You cannot assume anyone has any "specialist" knowledge whatever they claim
5. Statistics are important to some (and I personally pay a lot of attention to them), but they are of very little use to anyone who is already caught up in this, or indeed knows of people who are caught up
6. Terms such as "sinus", "airborne", "aerosol" have little relevance at this time in this jurisdiction. Ultimately though if cases are discovered in Ireland please pay attention to the relevant authorities and what they advise/recommend, and not some randomer(s) on the internet

All the above is me talking as a complete layman on the subject. Like everything in this thread do not treat it as chapter and verse, beyond paying attention to items 1-3 above

Any questions please PM me - do not try and dissect this post in-thread

Beasty wrote: »

Last time it was a "suggestion"/request

Now it's an instruction

Stop all the tit for tat stuff on the stats. None of us are in full possession of the facts and none of us can draw any "definitive" conclusions. Bottom line. It's serious. Not serious in Ireland at this stage, but may become so. Anyone caught up in this is not going to take much solace from any stats however they are complied

Any questions PM me - do not respond to this warning in-thread

Beasty wrote: »

OK

A number of posts have been sanctioned although it could have been many more

Could everyone please re-read the warnings in the OP

Could I also re-emphasise - attack the post, not the poster

I understand people can get very emotional about this sort of thing. Regardless of that there is no reason this cannot be discussed in a civil manner. Yes there are people implying there is little to worry about. Equally there are some doom and gloom merchants in the thread. Despite appearances I actually think most posters are probably somewhere in the middle recognising this is serious, but at this stage not overly so in Ireland

Whatever your own views are please recognise others are entitled to different views., Even if at different extremes please do not try and repeatedly ram your views down the throats of those who have differing views

In due course we may well have a far better understanding of this virus, but at present I do not think anyone can claim anything approaching a full understanding, and as always we need to take information posted by anonymous internet posters with a pinch of salt

Any questions PM me

Beasty wrote: »

I'm opening this one up with a very clear warning. Cut out all this cover-up/conspiracy stuff. If you have a reliable source quote it (not just their words but provide a link to a reliable source) - otherwise your claims carry little if any weight

Beasty wrote: »

A reminder to everyone

It is against site rules to seek or offer any medical advice. Please do not post here about your symptoms asking what to do. Contact your doctor by telephone and they can advise you as appropriate

Beasty wrote: »

A few reminders:

1. Some posters have been less than civil in their posting - particularly in the last few hours. Continue interacting in an uncivil manner and your posting privileges will be removed

2. Until something is reported "officially" treat anything you read here with suspicion. I am not saying posters are deliberately posting misleading or incorrect information, but this site, as well as other social media outlets cannot be considered "verifiable" news outlets. Of course if the likes of the HSE have a verified Twitter account we can assume what they post is accurate. Randomers on here or elsewhere cannot be considered "official" or "reliable" sources

3. I have little doubt there is some kind of lag in reporting "official" updates to numbers as I equally have little doubt there will be procedures to follow before any case becomes formally "confirmed". Hence you may feel you have information that contradicts any "official" information. That's not necessarily the case - it may be that you have access to information before others. Regardless of that do not post it as an actual case here. We can only go by official updates and you can expect others to be sceptical about anything not coming from an official source. That does not make your information wrong, but it needs to be formally verified before you should be claiming anything is "fact"

Beasty wrote: »

I will say this yet again, but from now on not only will your posts be deleted, but you may well get additional sanctions applied

It is against site rules to request or offer any medical advice. If you have symptoms phone your doctor, and do not try and get a diagnosis from some randomer on the internet. Do not ask what medication to take here

Any questions, please PM me

Beasty wrote: »

If people wish to flout the new restrictions announced on Friday that is up to them. They cannot complain at the consequences, be that direct action from the authorities, exposure in Social Media (not here) or being shunned by locals, friends, family etc. If they post about it here, or encourage others to flout the rules, trying to appear macho, or thinking they are above the rules or simply being a smart arse, posting privileges will be removed

Any questions, PM me. Do not respond to this post in-thread

All threadbans carry over, but we will reconsider if anyone wishes to discuss it further via PM

Please remember we have a Conspiracy Theories forum for speculation. Treat any information posted here as if it's from an anonymous internet poster. No-one is an expert here whatever they may claim. Please provide reliable sources where you can, and if you cannot please caveat your claims accordingly

Beasty

420, 419, 418, 417, 416, ......

Wait for it!

Beasty

High noon beckons....

Beasty

and I say hello

Hello, hello
(Hello goodbye)
I don't know why you say goodbye
I say hello

Snow Garden

The weather is nice

pjohnson

Beasty having a singsong with himself. XI is a thread too far :pac:

Quantum Erasure

300 today?

fryup

there's a bug going about

Kermit.de.frog

...

Snow Garden

Less than 9 months to Christmas Day

Cina

More threads than Fast and Furious films, so now you know it's serious.

Hmmzis

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/relatively-stable-sars-cov-2-genome-is-good-news-for-a-vaccine-67319

At least some good news these days.

The survivors of the first SARS-cov still had a full set of antibodies against it even after 15 years. There is some reasonable chance that v2 is going to be same or similar.

Silent Running

I have a vision in my mind of a smug English person explaining the UK strategy with a bucket and a bottle with hole in it. No matter how much he tips the bucket back, the water keeps flowing, and the bottle is full.

Is he doing it right?

This is it

Snow Garden wrote: »

Less than 9 months to Christmas Day

What are you getting off Santa?

pc7

Jesus can't believe how the threads are moving so fast, I think I read all of 1-3.5 and then just couldn't keep up! Now I just dip in and out, think I'm corona weary.

Snow Garden

Beasty wrote: »

and I say hello

Hello, hello
(Hello goodbye)
I don't know why you say goodbye
I say hello

Father McKenzie
Writing the words of a sermon that no one will hear
No one comes near

Eleanor Rigby
Died in the church and was buried along with her name
Nobody came

Ah, look at all the lonely people

fritzelly

President Xi approves of this thread

ihdxwz4a3pem9j

There is a lot of talk about face-masks. Remember, actually putting on the mask correctly, and taking it off correctly is as important. And it is by no means infallible. Social distancing is still as important for people with masks on.

Similarly, gloves do not negate the need for good hand hygiene.

PPE should not encourage people to take silly risks that they would not otherwise take without

Finally, the CDC actually doesn’t recommend masks. The best advice is social distancing and decontamination of various surfaces and materials (one study suggested Covid-19 can survive on plastic/stainless steel for 72 hours, on cardboard for 24 hours, on copper for 4 hours, and in the air for 3 hours.

Snow Garden

This is it wrote: »

What are you getting off Santa?

A vaccine!

wakka12

Almost 50% increase in deaths in Portugal

iwillyeah1234

Target of 750k for NHS Volunteer service in the UK
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/mar/26/uk-coronavirus-live-news-updates-self-employed-rishi-sunakhospital-car-parking-charges-waived-for-nhs-staff-in-england?page=with:block-5e7c95a98f08af215f6fb9ab#block-5e7c95a98f08af215f6fb9ab

( over 500k have already signed up)

felton

I assume the post office is open and I can send a parcel?

Ninthlife

I've been through all XI threads and all I got to show for it is a little fever and a bit of a cough :pac:

Beasty

Silent Running wrote: »

I have a vision in my mind of a smug English person explaining the UK strategy with a bucket and a bottle with hole in it. No matter how much he tips the bucket back, the water keeps flowing, and the bottle is full.

Is he doing it right?

The fact I am English is totally irrelevant....

Snow Garden

felton wrote: »

I assume the post office is open and I can send a parcel?

Yes

iwillyeah1234

President XI approves of this thread

Beasty

fryup wrote: »

there's a bug going about

not one of those beetles?

Snowbiee21

I might be the only one but I certainly think we are moving in the right direction. Social distancing seems to be proving its point. We are gonna be way under the 15,000 mark come the end of March. There’s been no huge increase in day to day cases for the last 3 or 4 days..

Lavinia

I presume re immunity its going to be same as any other flu. you do not get immune to any flu if you had it, maybe get slightly more resistant but it means nothing if your immune system gets low you can get it again no probs

me personally never got any vaccine either for anything

Gretas Gonna Get Ya!

Ninthlife wrote: »

I've been through all XI threads and all I got to show for it is a little fever and a bit of a cough :pac:

pfft... do you even spread bro? :cool:

dickdonk14

62 day until my summer holiday on the costa del sol can't wait I'm so excited 😆

gabeeg

Snowbiee21 wrote: »

I might be the only one but I certainly think we are moving in the right direction. Social distancing seems to be proving its point. We are gonna be way under the 15,000 mark come the end of March. There’s been no huge increase in day to day cases for the last 3 or 4 days..

Well if you're happy with our testing to date, good for you.

Enjoy it. I wish I could join you.

Beasty

pjohnson wrote: »

Beasty having a singsong with himself. XI is a thread too far :pac:

I've been sitting here all day thinking
Same old thing ten years away thinking
Now my days are gone, memories linger on
Thoughts of when I was boy....

Grandad, grandad you're lovely
That's what we all think of you
Grandad, grandad you're lovely
That's what we all think of you
Grandad grandad

Snow Garden

Snowbiee21 wrote: »

I might be the only one but I certainly think we are moving in the right direction. Social distancing seems to be proving its point. We are gonna be way under the 15,000 mark come the end of March. There’s been no huge increase in day to day cases for the last 3 or 4 days..

I still feel the numbers will be 'old' for quite some time.

I know one guy that got Covid19 and has fully recovered (had all the symptoms).
He still has not been tested. He first rang his GP on 9th March.

jamesf85

dickdonk14 wrote: »

62 day until my summer holiday on the costa del sol can't wait I'm so excited ��

Rest assured Spain will be accepting visitors and airlines will be flying by then.

Cork Boy 53

pc7 wrote: »

Jesus can't believe how the threads are moving so fast, I think I read all of 1-3.5 and then just couldn't keep up! Now I just dip in and out, think I'm corona weary.

Boards version of exponential growth. As a matter of interest what topic holds the record for most threads/posts on this site? The 2008 financial collapse must be there or thereabouts.

Kermit.de.frog

fritzelly wrote: »

President Xi approves of this thread

I'm told by the politburo in Beijing that the thread title displeases him.


I agree. It could have been more creative, wholesome in it's praise, but also witty.


It is none of these things.

iguana

Beasty wrote: »

not one of those beetles?

There is a beetle painted just like Herbie in Limerick. I often see it parked at the Crescent Shopping Centre so the owner may work there. My seven year old can't understand why I care about it.

All in all

Snowbiee21 wrote: »

I might be the only one but I certainly think we are moving in the right direction. Social distancing seems to be proving its point. We are gonna be way under the 15,000 mark come the end of March. There’s been no huge increase in day to day cases for the last 3 or 4 days..

We aren’t doing sufficient testing to get 15,000 cases, that is the only think we can say definitively. Our numbers will remain pretty similar each day until there is a large increase in testing or the % getting a positive result increase significantly.

jamesf85

Snow Garden wrote: »

I still feel the numbers will be 'old' for quite some time.

I know one guy that got Covid19 and has fully recovered (had all the symptoms).
He still has not been tested. He first rang his GP on 9th March.

I had the same. A friend of mine was away, contracted it and got home and isolated himself. Tested positive subsequently and his wife (who he continued to share a bed with) and children showed no symptoms and tested negative.

A lot of people don't seem to contract it despite being completely exposed to it.

CIARAN_BOYLE

Snowbiee21 wrote: »

I might be the only one but I certainly think we are moving in the right direction. Social distancing seems to be proving its point. We are gonna be way under the 15,000 mark come the end of March. There’s been no huge increase in day to day cases for the last 3 or 4 days..

There should be a big increase tonight or tomorrow night as the government decision to tighten the criteria for community testing has an effect.

It shouldn't been seen as a condemnation or what we are doing just as a sign of improved detection.

Cork Boy 53

jamesf85 wrote: »

Rest assured Spain will be accepting visitors and airlines will be flying by then.

I take it you are being sarcastic.

Professor Moriarty

Lavinia wrote: »

I presume re immunity its going to be same as any other flu. you do not get immune to any flu if you had it, maybe get slightly more resistant but it means nothing if your immune system gets low you can get it again no probs

me personally never got any vaccine either for anything

Initial research indicates that the Covid-19 does not mutate as much as influenza. Which would be very good news.

Quantum Erasure

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Boards version of exponential growth. As a matter of interest what topic holds the record for most threads/posts on this site? The 2008 financial collapse must be there or thereabouts.

Let's count to a million

Snowbiee21

Snowbiee21 wrote: »

I might be the only one but I certainly think we are moving in the right direction. Social distancing seems to be proving its point. We are gonna be way under the 15,000 mark come the end of March. There’s been no huge increase in day to day cases for the last 3 or 4 days..

I would also agree that there is reason to be optimistic regarding the extent to which transmission has been slowed. I though the most positive indication was that contact tracing for new cases is showing that contacts per case is way down in the single digits.


Test results however seem pretty meaningless at the moment. You simply have to assume there is a high multiple of the confirmed positive cases are out there.


That's not the issue though. The figure I would be most concerned about is how many are hospitalised and how many require ICU care. I think the next 10 days to 2 weeks will tell a lot. Now is the time to double down on restricting person to person contact. It does work to slow the spread.

sterz

Snow Garden wrote: »

I still feel the numbers will be 'old' for quite some time.

I know one guy that got Covid19 and has fully recovered (had all the symptoms).
He still has not been tested. He first rang his GP on 9th March.

So you know he had it even though he wasn't tested?

wakka12

New York city on trajectory to be the worst affected urban area on the planet, now surpassing Madrid and Lombardia, with deaths doubling every 36 hours
https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/fp9u85/new_york_the_worst_trajectory_in_the_world_now/

yourdeadwright

Snowbiee21 wrote: »

I might be the only one but I certainly think we are moving in the right direction. Social distancing seems to be proving its point. We are gonna be way under the 15,000 mark come the end of March. There’s been no huge increase in day to day cases for the last 3 or 4 days..

I do wonder was the number of 15000 ever realistic or was it a number the government knew we wouldn't hit and thus make them look like there doing good but more importantly make the public not go into panic mode as "we are below where we should be "

Or on the other hand has closing schools and social distaining could be just worked wonders ,

IQO

Not sure if this was posted before

https://twitter.com/Frontex/status/1243117786047619073

jamesf85

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

I take it you are being sarcastic.

The Spanish economy won't last another 2 months of complete lockdown. Not only will their health servicefail, but the ar*e will fall out of their entire economy.

Same for airlines, none of them will be in business if this continues for 2 more months

pc7

ecoli3136 wrote: »

That's not the issue though. The figure I would be most concerned about is how many are hospitalised and how many require ICU care. I think the next 10 days to 2 weeks will tell a lot. Now is the time to double down on restricting person to person contact. It does work to slow the spread.

Plus one, that's the one to watch, it doesn't matter if someone has light symptoms and is isolating, its when your lungs are water and you need a bed and help is the one that is key.