Got to love the left.

biko

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

Why is skin colour so important to you?

Whats with the dull term 'libtard', do you not realise it more reflects on you then whoever your trying to smear.

I'm making the point that skin colour is more important to the left.
I can elaborate if you don't understand.

Nm I'll do now.
Not a single person on the flight knew why this criminal was on the plane. But they could see a black man being deported.
Have you ever heard of passengers protesting a white person being deported?

riffmongous

JohnMc1 wrote: »

LOL. You're side believes:

1) You can choose what Gender you are like you would a pair of socks [and can even be neither Male or Female]
2) "We'll make Socialism work this time."
3)Feelings trump facts
4)That mass unchecked immigration will somehow fix our homeless and healthcare crisis.

You are not the side of sense and reason so drop the smug, condescending attitude.

Wow the snowflakes on the right here really can't take it can they, you can't say anything to upset the little darlings

biko

Tell me how wrote: »

And we're on to the merry go round. Some leftists think that, but they are the minority.

What makes you think they are a minority?

Facts?

Or a feeling?

JohnMc1

riffmongous wrote: »

Wow the snowflakes on the right here really can't take it can they, you can't say anything to upset the little darlings

Or you just got caught writing garbage and now can't defend them with the facts and reason you claim to possess.

Tell me how

biko wrote:

What makes you think they are a minority?

Because I've never heard anyone but the extreme left state any of the points you have mentioned. And the extreme left are a small portion of society.

I've seen the odd one on news, Twitter and I know they exist but they are not the norm.

BattleCorp

Tell me how

JohnMc1 wrote:

Or you just got caught writing garbage and now can't defend them with the facts and reason you claim to possess.

Can you provide some facts to support your claims please that these are common motivations of those on the left.

JohnMc1 wrote:

1) You can choose what Gender you are like you would a pair of socks [and can even be neither Male or Female] 2) "We'll make Socialism work this time." 3)Feelings trump facts 4)That mass unchecked immigration will somehow fix our homeless and healthcare crisis.

Brian?

biko wrote: »

I'm making the point that skin colour is more important to the left.
I can elaborate if you don't understand.

It doesn't. We decided at the last meeting that we only discriminate based on religion now. We're throwing in behind the Muslims. Bonus points for rapyness

riffmongous

JohnMc1 wrote: »

Or you just got caught writing garbage and now can't defend them with the facts and reason you claim to possess.

Here, the original post I quoted was blaming 'the left' for Trump, the blame for Trump lies strictly with the retards who like him and vote for him. I don't care about any of the issues you posted, that's not my Left, so you'll need to go reconsult your leftie outrage list

JohnMc1

riffmongous wrote: »

Here, the original post I quoted was blaming 'the left' for Trump, the blame for Trump lies strictly with the retards who like him and vote for him. I don't care about any of the issues you posted, that's not my Left, so you'll need to go reconsult your leftie outrage list

Whatever you say snowflake. Btw. Don't lecture anyone on making broad generalizations when you do the exact same thing.

JohnMc1

Tell me how wrote: »

Can you provide some facts to support your claims please that these are common motivations of those on the left.

You need facts posted to you believe that there are only 2 Genders? :rolleyes: The Left is lost.

hatrickpatrick

AnneFrank wrote: »

Reminds me of the way most of our country nearly wet themselves to protect the Muslim brotherhoods member Inrahim Malawhi, what a joke

FFS, that was a totally different situation - the MB were, like it or not, democratically elected. The Army overthrew them using extreme violence and banned people from opposing this even through ordinary protest.

The MB are by no means good people, but in a democracy, when a party gets elected, it gets elected. Overthrowing a democratic election using violence is bullsh!t.

Tell me how

JohnMc1 wrote:

You need facts posted to you believe that there are only 2 Genders? The Left is lost.

You see, what you stated was people can pick and choose which gender they are.

Like I said, the vast majority on the left don't believe that, they believe you can realise that you relate more to a specific gender and then live your life as that gender.

Again, please provide facts to back up your claims please.

hatrickpatrick

Can we please stop talking as if the identity politics nutcases represent "the left"? They really don't, any more than the Return of Kings types represent "the right". Many, many people on the left are social libertarians, who initially became leftists to oppose the social authoritarianism of the right (banning things or restricting individual freedom on "family values" grounds) - to those of us who did, the new authoritarian left is an absolute scourge and a fundamental betrayal of leftist values.

For example, the left was always opposed to censorship in the past, now it's leading the charge on turning the internet into a curated, supervised "playground" environment. Those who became leftists in the 90s or 2000s do not support this sh!t, and some of us are very vocal in opposing it.
Similarly with the abortion campaign - most leftists are pro-choice on individual freedom grounds, but the militant f*ckers who thought it was ok to rip down opposition posters, or threaten to boycott venues which had the temerity to offer a space for the right to hold meetings or rallies, or thought it was ok to sneer, condescend and downright insult anyone who was undecided instead of working to earn their vote - these people are actively despised by a significant proportion of leftists. They just get far too much attention because it makes good clickbait for the press, and this in turn encourages them to carry on acting like complete assholes unabated.

These people are not "the left". They have more in common with the Christian Conservative Right than they'd ever actually admit, and certainly far more than they have in common with the genuine liberal left.

Brian?

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Can we please stop talking as if the identity politics nutcases represent "the left"? They really don't, any more than the Return of Kings types represent "the right". Many, many people on the left are social libertarians, who initially became leftists to oppose the social authoritarianism of the right (banning things or restricting individual freedom on "family values" grounds) - to those of us who did, the new authoritarian left is an absolute scourge and a fundamental betrayal of leftist values.

For example, the left was always opposed to censorship in the past, now it's leading the charge on turning the internet into a curated, supervised "playground" environment. Those who became leftists in the 90s or 2000s do not support this sh!t, and some of us are very vocal in opposing it.
Similarly with the abortion campaign - most leftists are pro-choice on individual freedom grounds, but the militant f*ckers who thought it was ok to rip down opposition posters, or threaten to boycott venues which had the temerity to offer a space for the right to hold meetings or rallies, or thought it was ok to sneer, condescend and downright insult anyone who was undecided instead of working to earn their vote - these people are actively despised by a significant proportion of leftists. They just get far too much attention because it makes good clickbait for the press, and this in turn encourages them to carry on acting like complete assholes unabated.

These people are not "the left". They have more in common with the Christian Conservative Right than they'd ever actually admit, and certainly far more than they have in common with the genuine liberal left.

Well said. These people are a tiny minority of society.

Chris_Heilong

i think the crazy left(not normal leftists) is a millennial thing as most Generation Z people seem to be very anti-SJW thanks to social media showing how nuts they are so there is hope.

Odhinn

JohnMc1 wrote: »

LOL. You're side believes:

1) You can choose what Gender you are like you would a pair of socks [and can even be neither Male or Female]
2) "We'll make Socialism work this time."
3)Feelings trump facts
4)That mass unchecked immigration will somehow fix our homeless and healthcare crisis.

You are not the side of sense and reason so drop the smug, condescending attitude.

Do you spend a lot of time worrying about transgender issues?

Gimme a Belt!

Gimme a Belt! wrote: »

You are free to disagree but the leftist hivemind tells us that massive immigration from the third world is unquestionably a good thing and anyone who disagrees is a racist (hence the Germans, British and Swedish governments attempts to cover up migrant sex crimes).

As for the right atm I would say our concerns are ending illegal migration, eradicating Islamic terrorism, getting tough on crime and keeping the economy strong.

So no problem with other terrorism then?

end of the road

JohnMc1 wrote: »

LOL. You're side believes:

1) You can choose what Gender you are like you would a pair of socks [and can even be neither Male or Female]

given that changing gender like a pair of socks, and identifying as neither male or female, doesn't even register in the thought processes of most people, meaning it doesn't have massive support, then how does it even matter?

JohnMc1 wrote: »

2) "We'll make Socialism work this time."

socialism in it's basic form works. extreme socialism which few will support, no

JohnMc1 wrote: »

3)Feelings trump facts

no different to the right then.

JohnMc1 wrote: »

4)That mass unchecked immigration will somehow fix our homeless and healthcare crisis.

mass unchecked immigration isn't supported by all on the left. probably most actually.

JohnMc1 wrote: »

You are not the side of sense and reason so drop the smug, condescending attitude.

oh but we are the side of sense and reason. the alt/far/hard right on the other hand, are the side of alternative facts, fake news, simplistic plattitudes and failed ideology.

riffmongous

bubblypop wrote: »

What about Buddhists committing genocide?

There's a few on here who've openly said they have no problem with it

B0jangles

Look at aaaaaaaalll these crazy, virtue-signalling germans:



It's amazing they dare to even leave the house knowing that SuperSharia has completely replaced german law and immigration has made the entire country a No Go Zone which smells faintly of falafel.

Protesters from across Germany have marched through Berlin against racism, xenophobia and the far right in one of the country’s biggest rallies of recent years.

Organisers put the turnout at 242,000 people. The demonstration on Saturday followed anti-immigration protests in several eastern cities over the summer and a rise in support for the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party before a state election in Bavaria on Sunday.

A police spokesman declined to estimate the size of the crowd at the march, which was organised by a broad alliance of associations, labour unions, parties and rights groups including Amnesty International.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/14/german-march-against-far-right-draws-huge-crowds-in-berlin

alternative report:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45851665

blinding

Tell me how wrote: »

These people were trying to be compassionate in what was (and probably will be 90% of the time) a misguided manner.

If people being compassionate is used as an excuse to justify Trump his behavior and morals then the world truly is on a slippery slope.

They were Dumb and being dumb is what brought Trump .

The left are Dumb . When they get into power they don’t know how to do anything or get anything done .

Omackeral

riffmongous wrote: »

the blame for Trump lies strictly with the retards who like him and vote for him.

Anyone who voted for him is a retard? That's just ignorant as f*ck. ''They don't agree with my views so they're retards.'' Basically, that's the hard left in a nutshell. So far left that they've come out the other side.

Tell me how

blinding wrote:

The left are Dumb . When they get into power they don’t know how to do anything or get anything done .

Obama presided over the recovery of the US economy and brought about the most radical overhaul of US healthcare system.

You wouldn't have read about it on Breitbart of course.

B0jangles

Omackeral wrote: »

Anyone who voted for him is a retard? That's just ignorant as f*ck. ''They don't agree with my views so they're retards.'' Basically, that's the hard left in a nutshell. So far left that they've come out the other side.

Anyone who spent more than 5 minutes learning about Donald Trump and the person he has consistently shown himself to be in the 70+ years he has been on the planet, and thought:

"this man is competent to be president of the United States"

is severely, profoundly lacking in critical judgement.
Trying to shift the blame for Trump's election on to the people who said ' he's a fool and a liar and you are fools for voting for him' is not only foolish, but cowardly.

Gimme a Belt!

Gimme a Belt! wrote: »

Terrible but they're not commuting mass sex crimes in Europe, shooting up concert venues, blowing up tube stations, running over people in trucks etc

Now to play your game, why aren't you angry about any of the above?

Who said I wasn't angry about terrorist attacks?
I don't like anyone committing any crimes

But I don't just dislike it in Europe, I don't like it anywhere

Tell me how

Omackeral wrote:

Anyone who voted for him is a retard? That's just ignorant as f*ck. ''They don't agree with my views so they're retards.'' Basically, that's the hard left in a nutshell. So far left that they've come out the other side.

As a left inclined individual, can I ask you to stop suggesting we all think that way. We all don't. Certainly,the extreme left do.

This throwing a lasso around everyone who doesn't agree with you and saying they all think the same way is nuts.

I don't think everyone who voted for him is nuts, I recognize how much they hated the alternative, but those that are ardent fans and wearing MAGA hats I do think are mostly ill-informed and manipulated.

Tell me how

Gimme a Belt! wrote:

Are you seriously doing the 'white people did bad things in the past so no white person can ever utter a negative comment about immigration' routine?

FFS.

I'm talking about the last 12 months. Vegas concert? Charlotsville riots?

hmmm

B0jangles wrote: »

Look at aaaaaaaalll these crazy, virtue-signalling germans:

The polls are telling a different story.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45857699

The left seems to confuse the number of people who take part in protests with electoral success.

Personally I'm quite open to immigration, but the shouting down of people who aren't has led to a sullen silence which is being expressed through the ballot box and the rise of the stupid right - e.g. fascists, Trump, Brexit etc. If the left allowed a more open debate, I think we'd see a more moderate electorate response - unfortunately most of the left are, well, dopes, and think that preventing debate is the same as winning.

Omackeral

Tell me how wrote: »

As a left inclined individual, can I ask you to stop suggesting we all think that way. We all don't. Certainly,the extreme left do.

Read what I wrote again before misquoting me.

Omackeral wrote: »

Anyone who voted for him is a retard? That's just ignorant as f*ck. ''They don't agree with my views so they're retards.'' Basically, that's the hard left in a nutshell. So far left that they've come out the other side.

''The hard left'' is what I said. I'm referring to the extreme left in the above.